RyanWilcox - Lee really died from the AIDS virus because he was a secret cock gobbler. Of course people close to Lee covered it up.was that really the best you could contribute to the thread?
bsrizpac -
I think what bothers me is that MMA was created to FIND and stamp out these myths about guys that never fought but somehow Bruce gets a pass from the Bullshido treatment.
Its often that someone gets mythologized post early death. See Elvis, James Dean, Tupac, etc....
Are you aware though that in his books, Bruce completely is out to smash these myths and was super critical of them and much of the conservative Asian martial arts establishment?
I think you're saying he wasnt a "fighter" because he never competed in formal competition. So wasnt a "fighter" in that regards, fine. That doesnt necessarily not make him a fighter though nor a pioneering and trail blazing martial artist.
People can speculate how he would do against so and so and its just that, speculation. But its very disingenous to say he was just an actor. Acting came later and as an opportunity. He was first and foremost a visionary martial artist.
I dont care to debate whether he was a "fighter" or not.
GreenLight -someone stole my sense of humor and now i struggle with witty postspharochuck -RyanWilcox - Lee really died from the AIDS virus because he was a secret cock gobbler. Of course people close to Lee covered it up.was that really the best you could contribute to the thread?
It was hilarious. If I interpret it correctly, he's making a mockery of the idea that there could be this massive conspiracy, and an airtight one at that, amongst people to cover up that Lee was no good and not one person amongst those who knew him in life and remember him in death, in over 40 some odd years can't admit the truth about him. Those who have told the truth in interviews, about Lee sucking at martial arts and getting beat up all the time, have been assassinated and their interviews rewritten by a special team of mercenaries, who finance themselves on drug trafficking, mainly heroin, and off of Bruce Lee.
the great thing about this forum is that posts like these make it very easy to know who is a fucking idiot in a very short time just by looking at their words.
tsunaminw - the great thing about this forum is that posts like these make it very easy to know who is a fucking idiot in a very short time just by looking at their words.
I was thinking the great thing about the forum is that collectively the short term memory is about 2 weeks.
I look forward to discussing this again in mid November.
Captain Insano X - He was nothing more than a crappy actor who trained a little bit.
Gene Lebell exposed him for the fraud that he was.
How much of a bad ass can you be @ 5'7" / 130 lbs. ?
I can't believe how many people buy in to this farce......
you and your dad are not only gay, but gay with each other.
Captain Insano X - He was nothing more than a crappy actor who trained a little bit.
Gene Lebell exposed him for the fraud that he was.
How much of a bad ass can you be @ 5'7" / 130 lbs. ?
I can't believe how many people buy in to this farce......
you and your dad are not only gay, but gay with each other.
You know you've been owned and humiliated when you've been reduced to mom/dad insults .......
Typical for the kids around here.
bsrizpac - ^^
yeah I agree. Idiots like you who worship myths for instance.
QFT
lol, everyone got stuck on the jkd book. what about the other 4 books?
He didn't write them either?
I wonder if many of the posters on this thread really know the truth about BL?
Back in the 70s everyone considered him a superior kicker, but truth is, his real power was in his hands. In a real fight he would have been unlikely to have tried to kick the opponent. He considered kicking theatrical. He was a master of 'stage fighting', camera angles and how to 'react' to a kick or punch and often had his own group of stunt men who knew how to 'react' to a hit.
He had two modes of fighting - play and 2 seconds. He often said that in a fight it would be over in two seconds, and would (probably) be comprised of an eye flick or jab and a straight punch from 3 feet away (as in a standing start bar fight).
I spoke to Jesse Glover in email and he said that no matter what you see on the screen it was -totally- different to have him standing in front of you throwing punches. He was not just impressed he was in awe and this was back in the late 90s, fully 25 years after his death after Jesse had met a -lot- of fighters during his seminars.
If you look closely you can see that some top MA were actually afraid of BL, including Ed Parker who was an actual 'tough guy', he was that good.
His main weakness, imo, was his lack of durability - he was a small individual with small bones and an untested chin. His main strength was his initiation speed which was about 2-3x faster than the normal athletic person and his ability to anticipate what the opponent was going to do. He developed these attributes using specific methods, learning to watch the shoulders and body language for cues.
His main contribution was in the areas of stage fighting, physical culture applied to the MA, and methods of developing technical ability. Much of his development he kept secret and would not show to the public - he was understandably paranoid and wary of western fighters due to the size discrepancy.
$0.02
whos truth?
The Bruce Lee's Fighting Method is a book of volumes covering Bruce Lee's martial arts abilities of the Jeet Kune Do movement. The book is available as a single hardcover volume or a series of four paperback volumes. The text describes Bruce Lee's Kung Fu fighting techniques, philosophy and training methods. These book were originally written in 1966 BY BRUCE LEE.
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Bruce_Lee%27s_Fighting_Method
i have them, i know who wrote them...lol
The question whether BL wrote or had ghost written or had his notes/drafts used for as basis books plays no role in his legacy. The entire line of discussion strikes me as a red herring.
Was Bruce Tegner a bad ass?
I was thinking the great thing about the forum is that collectively the short term memory is about 2 weeks.
I look forward to discussing this again in mid November.
Now that is funny!
^^ honestly i dont know 100 percent sure. but his picture and technique he's showing and writing about is on most every page. and all 4 books.
Did Bruce Lee take his training seriously?
"While Bruce was in Hong Kong filming in late 1971 or early 1972, he had his weight equipment and training gear shipped to him," says Ted Wong, who met Lee in 1967 and trained with him for more than six years. "He wanted to stay in shape. So we packed his bags, but we did not send any clothes because he said he could buy them cheap in Hong Kong. We just packed training equipment. When he saw all the bags filled with training equipment, he laughed and said, âNow Iâm going to be able to do lots of training.â"
And train he did.
"Bruce considered training number one," says Wong. "He was constantly training. When
he watched TV or went to the movies, he conditioned his knuckles. When he was driving, he worked the hand grips. If he walked to a bookstore and came to a hill, he always ran. He never wasted time."
Why was this man so obsessed with training? Several reasons.
First, according to Lee, training was important because you couldnât perform up to your
capabilities if you werenât in shape, Wong recalls.
"Lee felt you had no business being in the martial arts if you werenât in shape," says
Wong. "If you werenât in shape you couldnât be 100 percent efficient." Second, he had lofty goals.
"He wanted to be the best," says Wong. "He wanted to be the best martial artist."
And no one could dispute that he was. Leeâs Thoughts on Strength
To get in excellent shape, Lee felt you needed strength, Wong notes.
"He considered strength training very important," Wong says. "He was constantly looking for ways to improve, including weight training and isometrics."
Although Lee felt strength was important, he did not believe bodybuilding was the answer, Wong says.
"He felt it was important to have definition, but he did not feel you had to overboard," Wong says. "He did not feel it was necessary to develop large muscles. On the other hand, strength and definition enhanced certain functions, such as kicking and punching." And Leeâs conditioning entailed more than hand grips, sit- ups, weights, running and conditioning drills.
"A lot of the time he read books and analyzed different arts," Wong says. "He had a keen eye and an analytical mind. He did a lot of researching."