Mir is the definition of a martial artist 
I'll tell you what... Mir better lose 30 pounds if he wants to be champion. He can get away with that hot mess against Duffee but the upper echelon will eat him up.
mada -I agree to an extent but let me explain:Kostakio - I'll tell you what... Mir better lose 30 pounds if he wants to be champion. He can get away with that hot mess against Duffee but the upper echelon will eat him up.
I like Mir but I don't think any kind of conditioning gets him past Werdum, Cain, JDS, or Stipe. Those top four guys are way, way, way, better than the rest of the division imo
Mir can beat ALL of those guys BUT he is very inconsistent. On some days, he's the best heavyweight in the world; on others, he's a top 20 guy at best. He would have to be on his A-game against those guys and unfortunately, he comes in with his B-game when it matters. It's likely mental.
Dad bid FTW.
ximboredofyoux - I wonder If Brock would come back to fight Mir again.Brock wants no part of Emotional Mir.
mada - Prob just didn't train much cardio or diet hard cause he knew one of them was going down in round one. Besides, at 36 it ain't easy to be ripped naturally.He isn't working in an office, he trains for a living.
mada -Kostakio - I'll tell you what... Mir better lose 30 pounds if he wants to be champion. He can get away with that hot mess against Duffee but the upper echelon will eat him up.
I like Mir but I don't think any kind of conditioning gets him past Werdum, Cain, JDS, or Stipe. Those top four guys are way, way, way, better than the rest of the division imo
Mir COULD beat all 4 of those guys.
His striking is equal to or better than Cain and Werdum, but his hands are heavier.
His sub game is world's apart from Stipe and JDS.
Stipe is a borderline terrible defensive striker. Mir could pounce, hurt and sub him.
JDS is the worst matchup of the bunch. He would have to really have to have declined since the 2 Cain beatings or he'd just fight Frank up again.
With Mir, the factor that has kept him from the very top is dedication to hard training. Frank Mir is the BJ Penn of HWs
JonnyW -orcus - "Frank's chin is nice too. "
Never thought I'd hear someone say that (I didn't see this fight yet).
He got hit with some nice shots and just bit down and fired back. Crazy fight.
I dont remember Mir ever getting KOed from 1 punch. He does get TKOed and KOed but from an accumulation of punches, like when Carwin was smashing him against the fence.
JBax1991 - Miller Time Mir!!!! FTW!!
Haha, this has a good ring to it.
The dad bod is a result of being off TRT.
ttt
mada -This for sure. WTF! Can't wait to watch it again after work...did not think I'd be saying that about a Mir fight in 2015.Bobby Lupo -mada - Prob just didn't train much cardio or diet hard cause he knew one of them was going down in round one. Besides, at 36 it ain't easy to be ripped naturally.
I figured Mir had to survive a wild Duffe onslaught for the first 2 or 3 minutes, then get a takedown to sub.
Frank came out firing bombs.
Love it when an underdog monkeywrenches UFC plans.
Really was awesome to watch lol. Mir def fired bombs but the footwork he used to find angles was pretty impressive. If he was this good of a striker 10 years ago he would have been unstoppable. Hats off to him for continuing to improve in the later stages of his career.
shaqitup -This. Pisses me off when pro athletes and actors my age are in worse shape than me. I work in an office 40+ hrs a week and all they have to do is train often times with personal trainers and people like "Bro science" Dolce.mada - Prob just didn't train much cardio or diet hard cause he knew one of them was going down in round one. Besides, at 36 it ain't easy to be ripped naturally.He isn't working in an office, he trains for a living.
iemitremmusi - The dad bod is a result of being off TRT.
Both guys had a little boobage going on.
Strict testing UFC has been pretty fucking exciting since July 1
Epo was the game changer. Baroni was juiced to the gills and would gas taking off his bathrobe. EPO would have made him GOAT. Look at Mendes. He was gasing in the first round after fighting hard for 5 against Aldo.
i think it's time for Mir-Brock 3 for interim title, seeing that Werdum wants to take some time off.
mada -Bobby Lupo -mada -Kostakio - I'll tell you what... Mir better lose 30 pounds if he wants to be champion. He can get away with that hot mess against Duffee but the upper echelon will eat him up.
I like Mir but I don't think any kind of conditioning gets him past Werdum, Cain, JDS, or Stipe. Those top four guys are way, way, way, better than the rest of the division imo
Mir COULD beat all 4 of those guys.
His striking is equal to or better than Cain and Werdum, but his hands are heavier.
His sub game is world's apart from Stipe and JDS.
Stipe is a borderline terrible defensive striker. Mir could pounce, hurt and sub him.
JDS is the worst matchup of the bunch. He would have to really have to have declined since the 2 Cain beatings or he'd just fight Frank up again.
With Mir, the factor that has kept him from the very top is dedication to hard training. Frank Mir is the BJ Penn of HWs
No doubt he's talented, but I think you are generous saying his striking is equal to or better than Cain and Werdum. It has def improved by leaps and bounds but I still feel they are better. Also, like you said he doesn't train hard and he'd gas against either of those guys. I agree with the take on Stipe and JDS. I just think Stipe would prob gas Mir out if he could get through the first.
Agreed with Lupo.... I thought Mir was done after he got beat down by JDS.
Frank Mir [to the young bull Todd Duffee]: There's two bulls standing on top of a mountain. The younger one says to the older one: "Hey pop, let's say we run down there and fuck one of them cows". The older one says: "No son. Lets walk down and fuck 'em all".
Todd Duffee: That's great advice!
Frank Mir: J/k! I'm swingin for the fences till one of us goes to sleep!!!
TexasBadAss - Epo was the game changer. Baroni was juiced to the gills and would gas taking off his bathrobe. EPO would have made him GOAT. Look at Mendes. He was gasing in the first round after fighting hard for 5 against Aldo.A lot of guys look like they're fighting at high altitude since the testing was enhanced.