Dana explains Okami cut reason in detail

Pretty shocking for sure. Haven't read the article but I too am wondering if his contract was up and they didn't renew it.

In for Dana's UG exclusive explanation (contract up yes or no). Phone Post

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caseharts - 
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you know op if you're going to link a quote, you could at least link the story where the original quote was taken from

http://sports.yahoo.com/blogs/mma-cagewriter/ufc-cuts-yushin-okami-tuf-16-runner-mike-000903036--mma.html;_ylt=A2KJjb1bHkZSLggAdJNNbK5_

just saying

I don't frequent yahoo. What's wrong with mania? Phone Post



well kevin iole wrote a story and got a quote from dana. then mma mania, copy and pasted that quote and created a story around it, and linked back to iole's article. if someone is going to link to the original quote from dana, i think the click should go to the person who originally got the quote, not the person who cut and pasted. 



and thanks for changing the link  OP. VTFU

I agree for legitimacy. I have my personal issues with lole but at least he got a good quote. Phone Post

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caseharts - 
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you know op if you're going to link a quote, you could at least link the story where the original quote was taken from

http://sports.yahoo.com/blogs/mma-cagewriter/ufc-cuts-yushin-okami-tuf-16-runner-mike-000903036--mma.html;_ylt=A2KJjb1bHkZSLggAdJNNbK5_

just saying

I don't frequent yahoo. What's wrong with mania? Phone Post



well kevin iole wrote a story and got a quote from dana. then mma mania, copy and pasted that quote and created a story around it, and linked back to iole's article. if someone is going to link to the original quote from dana, i think the click should go to the person who originally got the quote, not the person who cut and pasted. 



and thanks for changing the link  OP. VTFU



No worries man, not used to doing it but I seem to be in some groups and pages that get news pretty fast.

So going by all that, why the fuck isn't Roy Nelson gone? He can't get over the hump, a win over him means something, the only difference is Dana doesn't like him.

Fuck you Tighty Whitey Mr Boxercise. Phone Post

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caseharts -  The key here is . Was Okamis contract up?? If it was and they didn't resign him are they forced to resign him?
I love Okami but In that hypothetical situation explain to be are they obligated to sign him? Phone Post

That's not a cut then, that's a opting not to renew and I don't remember it happening to a top 10 fighter besides Rampage who didn't want to anyways.

I agree but can you hold it against them if they choose not to resign him?? What if they requested less money etc? We don't know. I think he deserved another fight and if it was the end of his contract keep him on a fight to fight basis but if he loses his next fight cut him Phone Post

caseharts - 

The key here is . Was Okamis contract up?? If it was and they didn't resign him are they forced to resign him?
I love Okami but In that hypothetical situation explain to be are they obligated to sign him? Phone Post


I'm pretty sure the ufc can end any contact they want, barring its not a contract they bought out that was written in another org.

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caseharts -  The key here is . Was Okamis contract up?? If it was and they didn't resign him are they forced to resign him?
I love Okami but In that hypothetical situation explain to be are they obligated to sign him? Phone Post

I'm pretty sure the ufc can end any contact they want, barring its not a contract they bought out that was written in another org.

I know they can. I'm stating this as a hypothetical situation where they could choose not to resign him. There is a difference Phone Post

caseharts - 
ChaosOverkill -
caseharts -  The key here is . Was Okamis contract up?? If it was and they didn't resign him are they forced to resign him?
I love Okami but In that hypothetical situation explain to be are they obligated to sign him? Phone Post

That's not a cut then, that's a opting not to renew and I don't remember it happening to a top 10 fighter besides Rampage who didn't want to anyways.

I agree but can you hold it against them if they choose not to resign him?? What if they requested less money etc? We don't know. I think he deserved another fight and if it was the end of his contract keep him on a fight to fight basis but if he loses his next fight cut him Phone Post



Dana would normally tell us that, and letting a top 10 guy go is one of those "Don't trade him to a team in our divison so he can come back and hurt us" kind of things.

caseharts - 
UGPTT_Rear Naked Chode -
caseharts -  The key here is . Was Okamis contract up?? If it was and they didn't resign him are they forced to resign him?
I love Okami but In that hypothetical situation explain to be are they obligated to sign him? Phone Post

I'm pretty sure the ufc can end any contact they want, barring its not a contract they bought out that was written in another org.

I know they can. I'm stating this as a hypothetical situation where they could choose not to resign him. There is a difference Phone Post


Ok, I see your question is more rhetorical i guess. No they aren't obligated to resign anyone.

ChaosOverkill -
caseharts - 
ChaosOverkill -
caseharts -  The key here is . Was Okamis contract up?? If it was and they didn't resign him are they forced to resign him?
I love Okami but In that hypothetical situation explain to be are they obligated to sign him? Phone Post

That's not a cut then, that's a opting not to renew and I don't remember it happening to a top 10 fighter besides Rampage who didn't want to anyways.

I agree but can you hold it against them if they choose not to resign him?? What if they requested less money etc? We don't know. I think he deserved another fight and if it was the end of his contract keep him on a fight to fight basis but if he loses his next fight cut him Phone Post



Dana would normally tell us that, and letting a top 10 guy go is one of those "Don't trade him to a team in our divison so he can come back and hurt us" kind of things.

I dunt see how Okami can hurt them? If he goes to bellator he's definitely the best champ there. Phone Post

UGPTT_Rear Naked Chode -
caseharts - 
UGPTT_Rear Naked Chode -
caseharts -  The key here is . Was Okamis contract up?? If it was and they didn't resign him are they forced to resign him?
I love Okami but In that hypothetical situation explain to be are they obligated to sign him? Phone Post

I'm pretty sure the ufc can end any contact they want, barring its not a contract they bought out that was written in another org.

I know they can. I'm stating this as a hypothetical situation where they could choose not to resign him. There is a difference Phone Post


Ok, I see your question is more rhetorical i guess. No they aren't obligated to resign anyone.

Yup and is it ethically more or less wrong. I'd like to see the context of the contract Phone Post

ChaosOverkill -
OnlyTheStrongSurvive -  Marquardt and Munoz were pretty freaking big back to back wins. Phone Post

Nah totally worthless for the purposes of justifying the cut. 

 

Wait didn't WEidman get a titleshot for beating that Munoz guy?

Yeah he did. I get what Dana's saying and all that but Okami really did everything he could in a division but become champ, and his division had the greatest champ in MMA history.

I never felt like he got quite enough credit from fans for how good he was. Phone Post

Well main point already given. Still in for contract not renewed confirmation from Dana. Phone Post

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ChaosOverkill -
caseharts - 
ChaosOverkill -
caseharts -  The key here is . Was Okamis contract up?? If it was and they didn't resign him are they forced to resign him?
I love Okami but In that hypothetical situation explain to be are they obligated to sign him? Phone Post

That's not a cut then, that's a opting not to renew and I don't remember it happening to a top 10 fighter besides Rampage who didn't want to anyways.

I agree but can you hold it against them if they choose not to resign him?? What if they requested less money etc? We don't know. I think he deserved another fight and if it was the end of his contract keep him on a fight to fight basis but if he loses his next fight cut him Phone Post



Dana would normally tell us that, and letting a top 10 guy go is one of those "Don't trade him to a team in our divison so he can come back and hurt us" kind of things.

I dunt see how Okami can hurt them? If he goes to bellator he's definitely the best champ there. Phone Post

Idk if he'd be better than Curran or Chandler but he'd very likely run that division. Phone Post

he would beat 75% of the middleweight division.

Uriah hall is fighting chris leben, two guys he would beat with relative ease.

Fuckin goof logic. If these up and comers can't beat the likes of okami they don't deserve his spot in the company... goof.

OnlyTheStrongSurvive - 
ChaosOverkill -
OnlyTheStrongSurvive -  Marquardt and Munoz were pretty freaking big back to back wins. Phone Post

Nah totally worthless for the purposes of justifying the cut. 

 

Wait didn't WEidman get a titleshot for beating that Munoz guy?

Yeah he did. I get what Dana's saying and all that but Okami really did everything he could in a division but become champ, and his division had the greatest champ in MMA history.

I never felt like he got quite enough credit from fans for how good he was. Phone Post



That's how I feel, he wasn't a dynamo fighter but he was very game and I appreciated his skills.



 

My labia are hurting Phone Post 3.0

caseharts - 
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caseharts - 
ChaosOverkill -
caseharts -  The key here is . Was Okamis contract up?? If it was and they didn't resign him are they forced to resign him?
I love Okami but In that hypothetical situation explain to be are they obligated to sign him? Phone Post
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                That's not a cut then, that's a opting not to renew and I don't remember it happening to a top 10 fighter besides Rampage who didn't want to anyways.</p>
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        I agree but can you hold it against them if they choose not to resign him?? What if they requested less money etc? We don't know. I think he deserved another fight and if it was the end of his contract keep him on a fight to fight basis but if he loses his next fight cut him <img alt="Phone Post" border="0" src="/images/phone/droid.png" style="vertical-align:middle;" /></blockquote>
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        Dana would normally tell us that, and letting a top 10 guy go is one of those &quot;Don't trade him to a team in our divison so he can come back and hurt us&quot; kind of things.</p>
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I dunt see how Okami can hurt them? If he goes to bellator he's definitely the best champ there. <img alt="Phone Post" border="0" src="/images/phone/droid.png" style="vertical-align:middle;" /></blockquote>

 

By having easier competition (for the most part) and Ironically developping as a draw for Bellator by getting more finish opportunities. I mean he obliterated their far above MW champion's grappling skills who was hyped as this Judo monster.

 

This isn't Tito or Rampage Yushin has years left to fight

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caseharts - 
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caseharts - 
ChaosOverkill -
caseharts -  The key here is . Was Okamis contract up?? If it was and they didn't resign him are they forced to resign him?
I love Okami but In that hypothetical situation explain to be are they obligated to sign him? Phone Post
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                That's not a cut then, that's a opting not to renew and I don't remember it happening to a top 10 fighter besides Rampage who didn't want to anyways.</p>
        </blockquote>
        I agree but can you hold it against them if they choose not to resign him?? What if they requested less money etc? We don't know. I think he deserved another fight and if it was the end of his contract keep him on a fight to fight basis but if he loses his next fight cut him <img alt="Phone Post" border="0" src="/images/phone/droid.png" style="vertical-align:middle;" /></blockquote>
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        Dana would normally tell us that, and letting a top 10 guy go is one of those &quot;Don't trade him to a team in our divison so he can come back and hurt us&quot; kind of things.</p>
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I dunt see how Okami can hurt them? If he goes to bellator he's definitely the best champ there. <img alt="Phone Post" border="0" src="/images/phone/droid.png" style="vertical-align:middle;" /></blockquote>

 

By having easier competition (for the most part) and Ironically developping as a draw for Bellator by getting more finish opportunities. I mean he obliterated their far above MW champion's grappling skills who was hyped as this Judo monster.

 


This isn't Tito or Rampage Yushin has years left to fight

I don't see him being a bigger draw than shlemenko but that's me. He would control shlemenko maybe sub him late. But big draw idk.

I think Okami should go to one fc and build his brand in asia where the ufc always wanted him to Phone Post