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They are, Nate's contract is less than 6 months old. This isn't some 3 year old TUF contract that he has outperformed, it is 1 fight old. You can't sign something claim to be happy with it and then turn around less than a year later and say that it isn't enough. That is retarded. 
I meant Nick apparently Nate is "ready to fight"
Well that is a whole 'nother ball of wax. Nick definitely has inherent value. Maybe he can headline a fight against someone like Lombard or Rory on a FOX card and then assuming that he wins, he can get Hendricks and some PPV money.
Nick hasn't won in over 2.5 years, has been suspended in that time period for banned substances, has skipped out on media obligations and had a title fight taken away from him, has lost 2 in a row, and his last win is over a now 145er.
He gets paid $200K to show. If anything, he is way overpaid. He needs to fight and win, unfortunately he's had 2 offers (Condit and Lombard) and seems he's turned both down.
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You guys are such drama queens. Yes he is 1-2 over his last 3 fights. However to somehow ascribe some importance to the fact that he hasn't won in over 2 years is fucking stupid.
What exactly does the length of time mean? If he fought 2 or 3 times a year I would understand that, but he doesn't. He fights maybe once a year.
He narrowly lost to a guy whose entire game plan revolved around not engaging him on the feet or on the ground. Condit had never fought like that before so it's not like it would have been something that they would have strategized in camp. It was a poor showing for both fighters. Then he lost to GSP. Holy shit, he lost to the champ. Let's go down the list of people who have wins against Georges: Matt Serra 7 years ago and Matt Hughes 10 years ago. That's the list.
So now for the win, does it really matter that the guy he beat is now fighting at 145? Did BJ weigh 145lbs when they fought? Did he struggle with him like Fitch did? Or did he just dominate him?
Lastly, is the money. Nick is worth every penny if not more. He was the 2nd highest grossing PPV of GSP's career (his highest is against a guy who now fights at 145lbs) and the most he had in 5 years. It was a bump of almost 30% over the his average. In fact, if you take out both of the Silva rematches, you have to go all the way back to Lesnar vs Carwin to get a higher amount of buys. So no, he is not overpaid. It is ok if you don't like him, you just shouldn't confuse your opinion with fact.
great post dubate, sometimes I get tired of regurgitating the same thing over and over to these guys. so I'm glad you did it so eloquently this time.
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They are, Nate's contract is less than 6 months old. This isn't some 3 year old TUF contract that he has outperformed, it is 1 fight old. You can't sign something claim to be happy with it and then turn around less than a year later and say that it isn't enough. That is retarded.
I meant Nick apparently Nate is "ready to fight"
Well that is a whole 'nother ball of wax. Nick definitely has inherent value. Maybe he can headline a fight against someone like Lombard or Rory on a FOX card and then assuming that he wins, he can get Hendricks and some PPV money.
Nick hasn't won in over 2.5 years, has been suspended in that time period for banned substances, has skipped out on media obligations and had a title fight taken away from him, has lost 2 in a row, and his last win is over a now 145er.
He gets paid $200K to show. If anything, he is way overpaid. He needs to fight and win, unfortunately he's had 2 offers (Condit and Lombard) and seems he's turned both down.
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You guys are such drama queens. Yes he is 1-2 over his last 3 fights. However to somehow ascribe some importance to the fact that he hasn't won in over 2 years is fucking stupid.
What exactly does the length of time mean? If he fought 2 or 3 times a year I would understand that, but he doesn't. He fights maybe once a year.
He narrowly lost to a guy whose entire game plan revolved around not engaging him on the feet or on the ground. Condit had never fought like that before so it's not like it would have been something that they would have strategized in camp. It was a poor showing for both fighters. Then he lost to GSP. Holy shit, he lost to the champ. Let's go down the list of people who have wins against Georges: Matt Serra 7 years ago and Matt Hughes 10 years ago. That's the list.
So now for the win, does it really matter that the guy he beat is now fighting at 145? Did BJ weigh 145lbs when they fought? Did he struggle with him like Fitch did? Or did he just dominate him?
Lastly, is the money. Nick is worth every penny if not more. He was the 2nd highest grossing PPV of GSP's career (his highest is against a guy who now fights at 145lbs) and the most he had in 5 years. It was a bump of almost 30% over the his average. In fact, if you take out both of the Silva rematches, you have to go all the way back to Lesnar vs Carwin to get a higher amount of buys. So no, he is not overpaid. It is ok if you don't like him, you just shouldn't confuse your opinion with fact.
The reason it matters that nick hasn't won in 2.5 years is because of how much has changed in that time.
Nick doesn't hold a win vs a guy who has mattered in the division in over 2 years.
That's what it boils down to.
Relevance. - and right now, nick is not.
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They are, Nate's contract is less than 6 months old. This isn't some 3 year old TUF contract that he has outperformed, it is 1 fight old. You can't sign something claim to be happy with it and then turn around less than a year later and say that it isn't enough. That is retarded.
I meant Nick apparently Nate is "ready to fight"
Well that is a whole 'nother ball of wax. Nick definitely has inherent value. Maybe he can headline a fight against someone like Lombard or Rory on a FOX card and then assuming that he wins, he can get Hendricks and some PPV money.
Nick hasn't won in over 2.5 years, has been suspended in that time period for banned substances, has skipped out on media obligations and had a title fight taken away from him, has lost 2 in a row, and his last win is over a now 145er.
He gets paid $200K to show. If anything, he is way overpaid. He needs to fight and win, unfortunately he's had 2 offers (Condit and Lombard) and seems he's turned both down.
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You guys are such drama queens. Yes he is 1-2 over his last 3 fights. However to somehow ascribe some importance to the fact that he hasn't won in over 2 years is fucking stupid.
What exactly does the length of time mean? If he fought 2 or 3 times a year I would understand that, but he doesn't. He fights maybe once a year.
He narrowly lost to a guy whose entire game plan revolved around not engaging him on the feet or on the ground. Condit had never fought like that before so it's not like it would have been something that they would have strategized in camp. It was a poor showing for both fighters. Then he lost to GSP. Holy shit, he lost to the champ. Let's go down the list of people who have wins against Georges: Matt Serra 7 years ago and Matt Hughes 10 years ago. That's the list.
So now for the win, does it really matter that the guy he beat is now fighting at 145? Did BJ weigh 145lbs when they fought? Did he struggle with him like Fitch did? Or did he just dominate him?
Lastly, is the money. Nick is worth every penny if not more. He was the 2nd highest grossing PPV of GSP's career (his highest is against a guy who now fights at 145lbs) and the most he had in 5 years. It was a bump of almost 30% over the his average. In fact, if you take out both of the Silva rematches, you have to go all the way back to Lesnar vs Carwin to get a higher amount of buys. So no, he is not overpaid. It is ok if you don't like him, you just shouldn't confuse your opinion with fact.
great post dubate, sometimes I get tired of regurgitating the same thing over and over to these guys. so I'm glad you did it so eloquently this time.
There was no poor showing from condit and diaz marching slowly forward gesturing and posing means fuck all. Nick had 25 minutes to adjust to condits gameplan. he chose not to or doesn't posses the skill to. Then he looked even worse against gsp than most expected. Hos biggest huggers said he looked off and were also disappointed in nicks performance. Lets not pretend he's been even the slightest bit impressive in a couple years. Why is he fighting so infrequently? Because hes chosen to waste the prime of his career with a misguided sense of entitlement
Dont hold your breath for nick to get more money or released. Dana will keep offering him fights for his current contract pay
Once again with this "couple of years" bullshit. It's been 2 fights. A lot of which was spent suspended for having a negligible amount of inactive cannabis metabolites in his system.
I do have a couple of questions about the Condit fight though.
If it wasn't a poor showing from Condit, why did he apologize for it at the post fight press conference? How many Condit fans have sat down and watched that fight repeatedly? I don't know any Condit fans that talk about that fight as a "signature" Carlos fight. If you want someone to become a Condit fan, would that be a fight you would show them?
A similar fight would be Machida v Henderson. With the exception that Lyoto always fights like that. So my question to you would be since Dan did fuck all in that fight was it because he lacked the skill to do anything but walk forward with his right hand cocked back to his ear or because he just chose not to? Or is it perhaps very difficult to have a fight when one person does their best to ensure that a fight doesn't occur?
Intergalactic - The thing about Nick Diaz drawing that many with GSP was that Nick had this hype of being a dangerous opponent for GSP. That was the key selling point behind that fight. Why anyone would suddenly think Diaz can draw anywhere near that without the GSP dynamic is ridiculous. That was the highest point of Nick's career, and his performance in that fight exposed him as just another hyped up pretender. The fact that he retired after the fight clearly shows that he himself thinks that.
He was coming off of a loss. Condit won that fight, so why was Diaz able to out draw him fighting the same opponent by 200,000 buys? Yes it was the high point of Nick's career, it was also 20,000 buys away from being the high point of GSP's career.