EWC3 canceled pro fights and lied about opponents

jsize03 -
Elite Warrior Challenge - Lol now bring up a case that you clearly know nothing about! Do your research pal....ABRAMSKI vs UNITED STATES. Amazes me that you guys have the time to surf FB and question the promotion but never once notice a fight card with the said fighters name and opponent on it. This is simple and your dragging it on. Doss excepted invite to the event on FB. She is tagged in the fight card. She has deleted msgs and now because you think you know something about me, im a liar. Go fuck yourself! I have 37 states that supported my position before the supreme court and the largest lobbyist in the united states. I am a 29 year old felon due to politics...not because i did anything wrong. Get your facts in order. Im not going to keep going back and fourth with you about this anymore...

I looked into before I posted. You were convicted and appealed to the highest court in the country. You had 37 states and the largest lobbyist in the US supporting your position, yet the Supreme Court still upheld your conviction. You're not a felon because of politics. You're a felon because you can't properly fill out paperwork which is clearly explained.

You still haven't refuted the metadata evidence of doctoring, other than "I don't even own apple products". That's not believable. Give us some evidence that she actually accepted the fight that can't be disputed.

I don't know either of you personally, but I can't find dirt on her. So right now you're the only one with questionable moral character, which is why I'm more apt to believe her story.
I don't want to go "back and fourth" with you, but the word is "excepted".

LOL. This guy is awesome. The go fuck yourself line just screams professionalism. Phone Post 3.0

Sub to hear the truth.
Any way someone can get Doss on this thread? Phone Post 3.0

Xspur - Sub to hear the truth.
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I've been speaking with Doss.  She says she created an account is awaiting moderator approval on before she can begin posting.



 



I've also been in contact with Abramski who says he has concrete proof that Doss has manipulated the Facebook conversation I viewed and screenshotted when Doss gave me direct access to her FB account.



 



I have no allegiance to either Doss nor Abramski and would simply like to find out what the real truth is and see the liar go down in flames.

Looking forward to the "concrete evidence".

Why not just send a screenshot of the messages which has no ICC profile? It's easy to delete messages, with no evidence of foul play...but you can't add messages to the best of my knowledge. Sooo....if Abramski submits a screenshot which has the messages and no ICC profile or apparent editing, wouldn't that make Doss look like she deleted the messages before granting access to her FB?

Seems like a simple fix to clear his name, but for some reason he hasn't been able present the evidence yet. Very sketchy.

Elite Warrior Challenge - Lol now bring up a case that you clearly know nothing about! Do your research pal....ABRAMSKI vs UNITED STATES. Amazes me that you guys have the time to surf FB and question the promotion but never once notice a fight card with the said fighters name and opponent on it. This is simple and your dragging it on. Doss excepted invite to the event on FB. She is tagged in the fight card. She has deleted msgs and now because you think you know something about me, im a liar. Go fuck yourself! I have 37 states that supported my position before the supreme court and the largest lobbyist in the united states. I am a 29 year old felon due to politics...not because i did anything wrong. Get your facts in order. Im not going to keep going back and fourth with you about this anymore...
But guys... He said he didn't do anything wrong. Phone Post 3.0

jsize03 - Looking forward to the "concrete evidence".

Why not just send a screenshot of the messages which has no ICC profile? It's easy to delete messages, with no evidence of foul play...but you can't add messages to the best of my knowledge. Sooo....if Abramski submits a screenshot which has the messages and no ICC profile or apparent editing, wouldn't that make Doss look like she deleted the messages before granting access to her FB?

Seems like a simple fix to clear his name, but for some reason he hasn't been able present the evidence yet. Very sketchy.


Agreed. A screenshot with no weird metadata or even a video (only gurus can fake videos) of a quick scroll through the messages can prove the messages exist on Facebook's servers as is being claimed by Abramski. If Doss deleted them in her inbox they still exist on Facebook, and they still exist in Abramski's inbox. 



I'm intrigued bc someone is lying and is watching their deceit play out on the UG of all places. What could be worse for someone in the industry?



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I would like to thank MR. Abramski for his inspirational story of the " little promoter that could". Seeing how great his show was, I am now doing one of my own.

TKP( Tyson Kloeppel promotions) presents........ SWFTNRH 1

SUPER WICKED FIGHTS THAT NEVER REALLY HAPPEN 1presents

Fedor Emilianenko Vs. Brock Lesnar

Vitor Belfort Vs Chris Weidman

Joe Rogan Vs Eddie Bravo ( grappling only)

Anthony Pettis Vs Jose Aldo

Randy Bo bandy Vs Jim Lahey

10 amateur fights TBA

.......... (Card and Venue subject to change)

Mr Kloeppel is not liable for any discrepancies, fight purses, or actual fights that May or may not take place.

For those questioning my credibility as an up and coming promoter, here's your proof...

http://i128.photobucket.com/albums/p161/tysonkloeppel/Brock/imagejpg1_zpsc68a8a64.jpg

blue please.

It seems like Doss didn't show the rest of the FB conversation.
She says "let's talk", which is not evidence that she didn't accept the fight. Is there more to the conversation on FB we're not seeing?
And did the FB msgs come before or after the txt msgs?
But someone is now lying...I feel like Doss is shading the truth perhaps?

The WHY for any of this is another question entirely. Phone Post 3.0

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AussieInTheBluegrass - It seems like Doss didn't show the rest of the FB conversation.
She says "let's talk", which is not evidence that she didn't accept the fight. Is there more to the conversation on FB we're not seeing?
And did the FB msgs come before or after the txt msgs?
But someone is now lying...I feel like Doss is shading the truth perhaps?

The WHY for any of this is another question entirely. Phone Post 3.0
That's how I saw it too Phone Post 3.0

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just for the record is Op cerrone? Phone Post 3.0

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OP,What is the sanctioning picture like over there? I cant wrap my head around the fact that there is no real distinction between pro and ammy with the exception of the money. Is there a legitimate Athletic Comission that oversees the shows? In mass we have the opportunity to bring issues like this up at monthly meetings that the our AC holds. Phone Post

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Jimmy Wrassler -
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Elite Warrior Challenge - Lol now bring up a case that you clearly know nothing about! Do your research pal....ABRAMSKI vs UNITED STATES. Amazes me that you guys have the time to surf FB and question the promotion but never once notice a fight card with the said fighters name and opponent on it. This is simple and your dragging it on. Doss excepted invite to the event on FB. She is tagged in the fight card. She has deleted msgs and now because you think you know something about me, im a liar. Go fuck yourself! I have 37 states that supported my position before the supreme court and the largest lobbyist in the united states. I am a 29 year old felon due to politics...not because i did anything wrong. Get your facts in order. Im not going to keep going back and fourth with you about this anymore...

You are just oozing professionalism.....


Are we sure hes not associated with Battlegrounds mma?

Vtfu! Lol! Phone Post 3.0


Back at cha, that thread was classic.  Did anyone ever talk to Kenny Monday about the whole situation?

time traveling 12er - So much drama in the EWC.

...It's kinda hard bein' Bruce A-bram-ski

Wow this could make a interesting tv show Phone Post 3.0

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OK I had to sign up just get in on the drama in this thread!



With my first post... I hope to seriously contribute. It seems like Occam's Razor would suggest the promoter here is just lying, but why not try to prove it ourselves? So, lets do some amateur digital forensics, shall we?



 



Here is a forensic analysis of the screenshot provided by Abramski:



http://fotoforensics.com/analysis.php?id=43e978adff2f6648dcf1a3674eb52b8ee2181ab1.38306



They key thing to take away from this is in the metadata, although we could use other methods to determine it was doctored as well. 









































ICC_Profile

Profile CMM Type

lcms

Profile Version

2.1.0

Profile Class

Display Device Profile

Color Space Data

RGB

Profile Connection Space

XYZ

Profile Date Time

2012:01:25 03:41:57

Profile File Signature

acsp

Primary Platform

Apple Computer Inc.


 


Heres what fotoforensics.com has to say about that metadata, taken from http://fotoforensics.com/tutorial-meta.php


 



ICC Profile

With the exception of a few high-end cameras, cameras do not generate ICC Profiles. ICC Profiles are added by applications as the file is edited or converted. Many applications -- including Adobe Photoshop -- will default to adding a color profile to the picture.



Besides colorspace information, the ICC Profile will include the primary platform. This typically represents the system used to add in the profile. If you see "Apple Computer", then the image was likely edited on a Mac. If you see "Microsoft", then it likely came from a Windows PC. However, do not assume that "Hewlett-Packard" means an HP-computer was used; many platforms, including non-HP systems, use the HP color profiles.



 



You can repeat all this for yourself using fotoforensics.com. Just for shits and giggles here the link to a forensic analysis of C0WB0Y's images: http://fotoforensics.com/analysis.php?id=4df0586ac76b3d7a23ce1cdc4c0a4c9a5e41eb4e.49536



 



tl;dr Abramski's screenshot is likely doctored as evidenced by the presence of an ICC Profile, among other inconsistencies.



edit: Also, the metadata cleary shows "Apple Computer" and we all know that screenshot is of an Android device




 

Thanks for this interesting tutorial! I had no idea about this stuff. VU!