is a testament to the effectivness of BJJ, whether he learned it from BJJ or Judo, or Sambo makes no difference. It is an example of submission techniques winning over strength.a principle taken from judo, the gentle art..*tosses another log on the pyre*burn baby burn...
so it's true that Fedor did BJJ with Golden Glory?
Judo vs BJJ aside, that was a sweet armbar. No hesitation, very smooth and fast movement. As soon as he had the arm trapped, he swivelled and went for it 100%. Beautiful. I guess we know whether Fedor has sub skills from the guard now, huh?
For what it's worth, it's the sort of armbar my Judo BB cousin is always going for (and often catches me with), but I wouldn't say it's a "Judo Armbar" as that would suggest other styles don't use that (very basic) form of armbar.
"so it's true that Fedor did BJJ with Golden Glory?"
No, he did not. Golden Glory has no one on their team anywhere near the skill level on the ground of Fedor, and the people he trains with. He trained with who he always trains with. He mentioned in interviews before the fight that he was sharpening his ground movements with his trainer and Nikolai Zouev.
Coleman was sick with cold (he had fever, and was not in a condition to fight) when he fought Nogueira. When Coleman fought Fedor, he was in a top condition, but was still caught in an armbar. Fedor proved that a judo/sambo background is far better than a BJJ background for pure no-gi subs.
Miller8966, remember, you stupid punk! I am a math professor and an internationally recognized research mathematician whose intelligence level is 1000000 times higher than yours. Even the worst student I have taught is 10 times smarter than you. From your stupid argument, it is evident that you have never taken any course in Discrete Math or Set Theory & Logic. Nogueira admitted in the post fight interview that he was beaten by Fedor because Fedor's submission skills were superior.
allcloser, 2 guys get 3rd in a judo tournament (2 guys get 5th and 2 guys get 7th)...it is possible to beat someone but then if you lose your last 2 fights and they win all of their's, that they will get 3rd and you will get 5th (assuming that you get far enough for them to make the repechege *which I have spelt incorrectly)
Everyone trains everthing today. Only an idiot refuses to crosstrain.
"From your stupid argument, it is evident that you have never taken any course in Discrete Math or Set Theory & Logic." LOL, how do you answer that? pdeking is cool.
"What's the difference if Bruce Springstein is his Shidoshi?"
Awesome Bloodsport quote, I'd forgotten that one. Nice.
Perhaps Fedor should seek the guidance of the Internet BBJ Expert, Your Bitch:
"Could Marc Coleman have made it any easier? Seriously, this guy has been training for years in the game, and he still doesn't show any hint of having learned basic submission defense.
Also, Fedor left a massive amount of space in that transition. Of course, against a fairly unskilled opponent, anything can look brilliant, and a lot of people on here are easily impressed.
I disagree that it was anywhere close to a BJJ armbar. BJJ guys would walk their legs up their opponent's back, around the shoulder, and allow little space in the transition. I've never been taught to fling my legs open like that and attack the arm. It would leave too much room for escape. It's more so reminiscent of a Shootwrestling style attack.
Fedor just opened his legs up as wide as he could, and slapped it on. A skilled submission fighter would see that coming from a mile away. But hey, all a wrestler has to do is end up on top, right?"
"It's not about it bieng correct or incorrect. It's about efficiency, and I already stated that inefficeint technique will look great on a cluleless opponent.
The fact is, Fedor left a lot of space that would have allowed for escape on a BJJ specialist. I figured this lesson out early on in BJJ, and even had Judo players requesting that I show them my armbar setups.
In BJJ we isloate the shoulder so that position isn't lost from hail mary tactics. We do this from guard, and from mount.
You see, we don't just assume that we'll be fighting clueless wrestlers. We always assume that our opponent knows what we know."
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Wasa-b- What the armlock Fedor threw on is a warm up in our class on a regular basis. Our students practice taking one arm then the other in succession. It is a kind of flow drill.
Almost all armlocks in MMA happen in this fashion due to the arms being extended holding the head or punching.