Hey guys,
rrefs - fight like dos santos: go to a boxing gym
The vast majority of boxing gyms in the world are pretty poor.
Dos Santos happened to fall in with Dorea, who is an incredible coach.
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Jack Slack -rrefs - fight like dos santos: go to a boxing gym
The vast majority of boxing gyms in the world are pretty poor.
Dos Santos happened to fall in with Dorea, who is an incredible coach.
Jack,
I haven't read your piece yet but I will in a moment. Thanks for these - I've expanded my appreciation of MMA striking several-fold since I've started reading your articles.
Do you find Freddie Roache's knowledge of boxing to be as esteemed as his reputation would lead people to believe? Is he really one of the premier boxing coaches or maybe even the best in the world?
Cheers!
good read as always, thanks Jack.
What is your background, Jack?
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Willin_But_Not_Chaeble -Jack Slack -rrefs - fight like dos santos: go to a boxing gym
The vast majority of boxing gyms in the world are pretty poor.
Dos Santos happened to fall in with Dorea, who is an incredible coach.Jack,
I haven't read your piece yet but I will in a moment. Thanks for these - I've expanded my appreciation of MMA striking several-fold since I've started reading your articles.
Do you find Freddie Roache's knowledge of boxing to be as esteemed as his reputation would lead people to believe? Is he really one of the premier boxing coaches or maybe even the best in the world?
Cheers!
I rate Freddie Roach's knowledge incredibly highly and he's surely one of the best in the world. But I wouldn't say he's the smartest or savviest coach out there - I mean there's dozens of great guys who teach amazing styles and techniques. Manny Steward, Roger Mayweather etc. I personally very much like what Enzo Calzaghe and Brendan Ingle have done with their fighters.
Unfortunately Freddie has acquired this reputation whereby if you work with him you will somehow magically get great hands. It just isn't the case. There are a great many coaches out there who could help individual fighters much better than Roach. I think at the highest levels you have to know what you're looking for and who is known for teaching that well.
I think Roach is a bit overrated and getting more publicity than other equally good coaches but he was trained by Eddie Futch one of the best coaches ever in boxing
Jack Slack -Willin_But_Not_Chaeble -Jack Slack -rrefs - fight like dos santos: go to a boxing gym
The vast majority of boxing gyms in the world are pretty poor.
Dos Santos happened to fall in with Dorea, who is an incredible coach.Jack,
I haven't read your piece yet but I will in a moment. Thanks for these - I've expanded my appreciation of MMA striking several-fold since I've started reading your articles.
Do you find Freddie Roache's knowledge of boxing to be as esteemed as his reputation would lead people to believe? Is he really one of the premier boxing coaches or maybe even the best in the world?
Cheers!
I rate Freddie Roach's knowledge incredibly highly and he's surely one of the best in the world. But I wouldn't say he's the smartest or savviest coach out there - I mean there's dozens of great guys who teach amazing styles and techniques. Manny Steward, Roger Mayweather etc. I personally very much like what Enzo Calzaghe and Brendan Ingle have done with their fighters.
Unfortunately Freddie has acquired this reputation whereby if you work with him you will somehow magically get great hands. It just isn't the case. There are a great many coaches out there who could help individual fighters much better than Roach. I think at the highest levels you have to know what you're looking for and who is known for teaching that well.
Wow, you really think Roger is a premier trainer? Granted he coaches Floyd but the guy can barely form a sentence properly. I always assumed Floyd had the natural ability and experience and Roger is almost a robot who Floyd commands around for his own workouts.
Granted my boxing knowledge is quite limited... these are all suspicions I hypothesized from watching the 24/7 boxing series.
Willin_But_Not_Chaeble -Jack Slack -Willin_But_Not_Chaeble -Jack Slack -rrefs - fight like dos santos: go to a boxing gym
The vast majority of boxing gyms in the world are pretty poor.
Dos Santos happened to fall in with Dorea, who is an incredible coach.Jack,
I haven't read your piece yet but I will in a moment. Thanks for these - I've expanded my appreciation of MMA striking several-fold since I've started reading your articles.
Do you find Freddie Roache's knowledge of boxing to be as esteemed as his reputation would lead people to believe? Is he really one of the premier boxing coaches or maybe even the best in the world?
Cheers!
I rate Freddie Roach's knowledge incredibly highly and he's surely one of the best in the world. But I wouldn't say he's the smartest or savviest coach out there - I mean there's dozens of great guys who teach amazing styles and techniques. Manny Steward, Roger Mayweather etc. I personally very much like what Enzo Calzaghe and Brendan Ingle have done with their fighters.
Unfortunately Freddie has acquired this reputation whereby if you work with him you will somehow magically get great hands. It just isn't the case. There are a great many coaches out there who could help individual fighters much better than Roach. I think at the highest levels you have to know what you're looking for and who is known for teaching that well.
Wow, you really think Roger is a premier trainer? Granted he coaches Floyd but the guy can barely form a sentence properly. I always assumed Floyd had the natural ability and experience and Roger is almost a robot who Floyd commands around for his own workouts.
Granted my boxing knowledge is quite limited... these are all suspicions I hypothesized from watching the 24/7 boxing series.
In fairness, lots of top coaches who were fighters can't string sentences together very well.
The ones who had very limited fighting experience but plenty of gym time seem to be the most knowledgeable and articulate. Guys like Manny Steward and the late Eddie Futch.
It's worth noting that some of the top coaches don't have records at all such as Greg Jackson ;) and myself (I kid, I kid) but just lots of gym time. Some don't even have formal training.
Enzo Calzaghe (Joe Calzaghe's dad) is an excellent example. They lived in the middle of nowhere and one of his sons wanted to box and the other wanted to sing. So he found all the information he could get on boxing and singing in books and so on, and he taught them himself. Joe became one of the greatest boxers of the 90s and naughties, I'm not sure how his brother got on with singing ;)
Roger is not a posterboy for humanity but as a boxing coach he is solid imo. Check out undefeated prospect Jesse Vargas, Roger was his original coach
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Thank you Jack, voted up again.
And Jack if you don't mind, could you post the link to Junior's cross. Thanks.
...and I wish you the best With the FO opportunity.
grachuss - Who are the top trainers other than Steward and Calzaghe then? Roach gets a lot of publicity do to Pacman.
Don't forget Nazeem Richardson