Flame away but...

Feelz Good - She can be p4p the best woman, but not p4p the best overall. Saying she's the p4p best out of women and men means you think she could beat Barao and Cruz. Phone Post 3.0

No, no it doesn't.

If I vote Aldo over Cain in P4P rankings it doesn't mean I think he can beat Cain since there's a huge weight difference, it just means I think he's proven he's been a more dominant fighter in his weight class than Cain has in his.

Rousey is without a doubt the most dominant fighter right now. I don't care about weight or sex. You put Ronda in ufc 1 and she wins. Her skill in judo is world class for male or female. What male fighter has the judo level skill she has? Please tell me what male fighter is as dominant? What male fighter has ever done what she is doing? To say she doesn't belong in the p4p is retarded.

Divisional Dominace != P4P

Se7enout - Rousey is without a doubt the most dominant fighter right now. I don't care about weight or sex. You put Ronda in ufc 1 and she wins. Her skill in judo is world class for male or female. What male fighter has the judo level skill she has? Please tell me what male fighter is as dominant? What male fighter has ever done what she is doing? To say she doesn't belong in the p4p is retarded.
So, u think she could beat ishii at judo? Phone Post 3.0

She wasn't the best Judoka, she isnt the best mix martial artist, hence the chip on her shoulder. Phone Post 3.0

Se7enout - Rousey is without a doubt the most dominant fighter right now. I don't care about weight or sex. You put Ronda in ufc 1 and she wins. Her skill in judo is world class for male or female. What male fighter has the judo level skill she has? Please tell me what male fighter is as dominant? What male fighter has ever done what she is doing? To say she doesn't belong in the p4p is retarded.
I don't think you've quite realised what you've said. Anyone undefeated is currently in contention now for this P4P number one spot. The only reason you've said Rousey and Weidman is because they're champions. Phone Post 3.0

Se7enout - Rousey is without a doubt the most dominant fighter right now. I don't care about weight or sex. You put Ronda in ufc 1 and she wins. Her skill in judo is world class for male or female. What male fighter has the judo level skill she has? Please tell me what male fighter is as dominant? What male fighter has ever done what she is doing? To say she doesn't belong in the p4p is retarded.
And as for her level of judo, do you think she could throw around Karo? Because if you were to respond yes to that you have no place commenting on anything remotely close to martial arts. Phone Post 3.0

Wait, OP thinks she beats Ken Shamrock in UFC I? Phone Post 3.0

lmfao, ronda and cris shouldn't even be in the top 5 p4p Phone Post 3.0

grizzlyedwin - 
Feelz Good - She can be p4p the best woman, but not p4p the best overall. Saying she's the p4p best out of women and men means you think she could beat Barao and Cruz. Phone Post 3.0

No, no it doesn't.

If I vote Aldo over Cain in P4P rankings it doesn't mean I think he can beat Cain since there's a huge weight difference, it just means I think he's proven he's been a more dominant fighter in his weight class than Cain has in his.

Yes , yes it actually does. If you vote Aldo over Cain in P4P it means you believe if they weighed the same amount (ie if size was not a factor) that Aldo would beat Cain.


Aldo by being able to beat everyfighter in his weightclass or under is what gives him the credibility to be on the list.

If you are going to put Ronda on a P4P list with men then she would need to be able to beat all the men that are her same size or smaller. She can't and its stupid to speculate otherwise. Pound 4 Pound is only removing size from the equation not gender.


the competition in women's mma is ridiculously unevolved and incredibly shallow. The competition she faces is equivalent to the current men at the top of their divisions fighting competition of mid to late 90's ability/skill level.

The Pendulum - 
Se7enout - Rousey is without a doubt the most dominant fighter right now. I don't care about weight or sex. You put Ronda in ufc 1 and she wins. Her skill in judo is world class for male or female. What male fighter has the judo level skill she has? Please tell me what male fighter is as dominant? What male fighter has ever done what she is doing? To say she doesn't belong in the p4p is retarded.
I don't think you've quite realised what you've said. Anyone undefeated is currently in contention now for this P4P number one spot. The only reason you've said Rousey and Weidman is because they're champions. Phone Post 3.0

I said weidman because of a few reasons.
1. Never lost a fight
2. Finished the goat 2x in 1 year
3. Is the champion

I said Ronda because
1. Finished all her fights
2. Is undefeated
3. Is champion

These are the reasons I chose these 2. They are obviously the 2 best fighters right now. That means 1&2 p4p at this time. Until someone proves otherwise.

Rhythmprince -
Se7enout -
Entreri - Yes she is, #1P4P in women's MMA.

Going by who is the undefeated and champion, it would be Weidman. Weidman has finished arguably the men GOAT twice.

That's why I say weidman is the only other fighter one could make a case for. But if you look at how their fights transpired... Ronda has never had any controversy around her fights and has never gone to decision... I feel like she is the most dominant fighter right now and deserves the title #1 p4p.
So you honestly think that Rousey vs Cain would end in an armbars for Rousey? You think Barnett,Mir, Brock, JDS, Cruz, Barao, Creepy, ANYONE would lose to a 135 pound woman?



You sir are a retard Phone Post 3.0
So much pain in this post. P4p doesn't mean who's the baddest person on the planet. Why was anderson p4p #1 without being hw champ? And trust me ronda would either take your arm home/ choke your shit out or beat the living snot out of 99% of men and that's conservative. Phone Post 3.0

PrettyBoy -
grizzlyedwin - 
Feelz Good - She can be p4p the best woman, but not p4p the best overall. Saying she's the p4p best out of women and men means you think she could beat Barao and Cruz. Phone Post 3.0

No, no it doesn't.

If I vote Aldo over Cain in P4P rankings it doesn't mean I think he can beat Cain since there's a huge weight difference, it just means I think he's proven he's been a more dominant fighter in his weight class than Cain has in his.

Yes , yes it actually does. If you vote Aldo over Cain in P4P it means you believe if they weighed the same amount (ie if size was not a factor) that Aldo would beat Cain.


Aldo by being able to beat everyfighter in his weightclass or under is what gives him the credibility to be on the list.

If you are going to put Ronda on a P4P list with men then she would need to be able to beat all the men that are her same size or smaller. She can't and its stupid to speculate otherwise. Pound 4 Pound is only removing size from the equation not gender.


Pretty boy is correct here. Lots of confusion over what p4p means in this thread. Phone Post

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PrettyBoy -
grizzlyedwin - 
Feelz Good - She can be p4p the best woman, but not p4p the best overall. Saying she's the p4p best out of women and men means you think she could beat Barao and Cruz. Phone Post 3.0

No, no it doesn't.

If I vote Aldo over Cain in P4P rankings it doesn't mean I think he can beat Cain since there's a huge weight difference, it just means I think he's proven he's been a more dominant fighter in his weight class than Cain has in his.

Yes , yes it actually does. If you vote Aldo over Cain in P4P it means you believe if they weighed the same amount (ie if size was not a factor) that Aldo would beat Cain.


Aldo by being able to beat everyfighter in his weightclass or under is what gives him the credibility to be on the list.

If you are going to put Ronda on a P4P list with men then she would need to be able to beat all the men that are her same size or smaller. She can't and its stupid to speculate otherwise. Pound 4 Pound is only removing size from the equation not gender.


Pretty boy is correct here. Lots of confusion over what p4p means in this thread. Phone Post
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