I believe that Ronda is the p4p best fighter in the world right now and the only other fighter that could contest that is Chris weidman.
Just looking at what she has accomplished in the cage. She became champion in quick fashion, she is undefeated, she has finished all her opponents by arm bar.
So why does this make her #1 p4p? Well no one she has fought could even prove they belonged in their with her yet. Can you say the same about anyone else in the ufc?
Cain? Koed
Jones? Gus is neck and neck with him in the skill department, he lost a round to machida and was injured by belforts arm bar.
Hendricks/lawler? They don't even deserve to be in the top 15.
Pettis while great he isn't undefeated and really Melendez in my view is the true champ at lw. He has plenty of competition for the crown.
Barao a loss and a nc stain his record. Also until he beats Cruz he isn't even the sole owner of the title in his weight class let alone p4p.
Aldo I believe loss to edger but that's just me. But he def isn't #1 p4p with a loss on his record and an extremely close fight with edger.
Mighty Mouse has losses to picket and Cruz....
Weidman on the other hand is undefeated as well (not as dominant in his fights as Ronda has been) but did finish the goat back 2 back in one year.
I have Chris and Ronda neck and neck for #1 p4p. Anyone else feel the same way?
Se7enout - I believe that Ronda is the p4p best fighter in the world right now and the only other fighter that could contest that is Chris weidman.
Just looking at what she has accomplished in the cage. She became champion in quick fashion, she is undefeated, she has finished all her opponents by arm bar.
So why does this make her #1 p4p? Well no one she has fought could even prove they belonged in their with her yet. Can you say the same about anyone else in the ufc?
Cain? Koed
Jones? Gus is neck and neck with him in the skill department, he lost a round to machida and was injured by belforts arm bar.
Hendricks/lawler? They don't even deserve to be in the top 15.
Pettis while great he isn't undefeated and really Melendez in my view is the true champ at lw. He has plenty of competition for the crown.
Barao a loss and a nc stain his record. Also until he beats Cruz he isn't even the sole owner of the title in his weight class let alone p4p.
Aldo I believe loss to edger but that's just me. But he def isn't #1 p4p with a loss on his record and an extremely close fight with edger.
Mighty Mouse has losses to picket and Cruz....
Weidman on the other hand is undefeated as well (not as dominant in his fights as Ronda has been) but did finish the goat back 2 back in one year.
I have Chris and Ronda neck and neck for #1 p4p. Anyone else feel the same way?
like the enthusiasm but NO
I agree. She has accomplished what no man could possibly ever dream of. Truly amazing. Men now tremble when she enters a room.
By that do you mean you voted me down? Lol.
But a big reason for my choice is that I just don't see any signs of her losing. I mean the chick is nasty. Not one of her fights even looks like a fair fight. She is just on another level compared to what is available for her to fight at the moment. Maybe time will change that but right now, at this moment in time she is my p4p best fighter.
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She can be p4p the best woman, but not p4p the best overall. Saying she's the p4p best out of women and men means you think she could beat Barao and Cruz.
Why does the competition available for her to fight at the moment matter as to whether she is p4p the best?
Can somebody not be "on another level" versus their eligible competition, but yet lag behind others who are competing in other classes?
The whole notion of p4p is that if the size discrepancies were erased, then the p4p best would be the lone champion. Do you really feel that way about Rousey when the men's divisions have guys like Jones, Aldo, Weidman, etc.?
I agree that Rousey appears to be more clearly head-and-shoulders above the competition in her division than just about any other champion, but that only makes her likely to become one of the most dominant fighters, not necessarily the p4p best.
Yes she is, #1P4P in women's MMA.
Going by who is the undefeated and champion, it would be Weidman. Weidman has finished arguably the men GOAT twice.
It matters because I could foresee every other fighter losing in the near future. She is the only fighter I ever felt confident saying she could retire undefeated champion.
Also if I'm judging on skills alone. With her ability to throw around everyone she has ever fought like a rag doll and finish them with arm bars even when they know what she is going to do in my mind has earned her p4p.
If all champions were the same sex and size I don't see Ronda having a problem throwing them around. Her judo is just amazing. It is like watching an artist paint when she goes to work.
And we can only judge fighters based on PSAT performances so that's why it matters.
Entreri - Yes she is, #1P4P in women's MMA.
Going by who is the undefeated and champion, it would be Weidman. Weidman has finished arguably the men GOAT twice.
That's why I say weidman is the only other fighter one could make a case for. But if you look at how their fights transpired... Ronda has never had any controversy around her fights and has never gone to decision... I feel like she is the most dominant fighter right now and deserves the title #1 p4p.
Se7enout - I believe that Ronda is the p4p best fighter in the world right now and the only other fighter that could contest that is Chris weidman.VTFD
Just looking at what she has accomplished in the cage. She became champion in quick fashion, she is undefeated, she has finished all her opponents by arm bar.
So why does this make her #1 p4p? Well no one she has fought could even prove they belonged in their with her yet. Can you say the same about anyone else in the ufc?
Cain? Koed
Jones? Gus is neck and neck with him in the skill department, he lost a round to machida and was injured by belforts arm bar.
Hendricks/lawler? They don't even deserve to be in the top 15.
Pettis while great he isn't undefeated and really Melendez in my view is the true champ at lw. He has plenty of competition for the crown.
Barao a loss and a nc stain his record. Also until he beats Cruz he isn't even the sole owner of the title in his weight class let alone p4p.
Aldo I believe loss to edger but that's just me. But he def isn't #1 p4p with a loss on his record and an extremely close fight with edger.
Mighty Mouse has losses to picket and Cruz....
Weidman on the other hand is undefeated as well (not as dominant in his fights as Ronda has been) but did finish the goat back 2 back in one year.
I have Chris and Ronda neck and neck for #1 p4p. Anyone else feel the same way?
P4p is stupid and your pretty confused. By your standards AS wouldn't have made your cut before the Weidman fight because he had losses. Discounting Barao and Aldo and calling one loss and a NC a stain is ridiculous, they should head the list. Also, saying Frankie beat Aldo IYO is never going to help an argument.
She doesn't even deserve to be in the list yet. She is the champ but hasn't proven much yet.
How many title defenses does she have?
So Aldo has a loss on his record from.....'05 (17 fights ago) and he can't be best p4p b/c of that. Okay.
Aldo trumps Rowdy on a level that should be easy for even the "slowest" fan to understand. Thats active. Rowdy doesnt even hit the Top-10/15 All-Time P4P list.
OneSidedWar - Aldo trumps Rowdy on a level that should be easy for even the "slowest" fan to understand. Thats active. Rowdy doesnt even hit the Top-10/15 All-Time P4P list.Exactly. Too soon. She hasn't even had 10 fights yet.
P4P is a current rating yet you are holding losses from years ago against fighters. How does that work?
Se7enout -So you honestly think that Rousey vs Cain would end in an armbars for Rousey? You think Barnett,Mir, Brock, JDS, Cruz, Barao, Creepy, ANYONE would lose to a 135 pound woman?Entreri - Yes she is, #1P4P in women's MMA.
Going by who is the undefeated and champion, it would be Weidman. Weidman has finished arguably the men GOAT twice.
That's why I say weidman is the only other fighter one could make a case for. But if you look at how their fights transpired... Ronda has never had any controversy around her fights and has never gone to decision... I feel like she is the most dominant fighter right now and deserves the title #1 p4p.
You sir are a retard
Ronda has dominated and finished all of her opponents.
Aldo 1 loss 7 decsissions. When he fought edger it was a VERY close fight. Who has been a close fight for Ronda? Who took her to decision?
Barao 1 loss 1 nc and 11 decisions...
I think Ronda is WAY more dominant then barao and Aldo...
Se7enout - Ronda has dominated and finished all of her opponents.
Aldo 1 loss 7 decsissions. When he fought edger it was a VERY close fight. Who has been a close fight for Ronda? Who took her to decision?
Barao 1 loss 1 nc and 11 decisions...
I think Ronda is WAY more dominant then barao and Aldo...
No disrespect to you I see what your saying. I just dont think you understand what P4P means or how to classify the rankings.
She could be p4p the best womens fighter...but being undefeated in itself doesnt even matter for that category.
You just need to believe that she stylistically would beat all other women if they weighed the same amount.
If you cant see the skill gap between men and women at this stage or if you honestly believe she would defeate her 125/ 135 male counterparts and deserves to be on the male P4P list...then I think you might need some more education on the sport and the differences in the human sexes.