I'm not sure I'd use the word 'better', there's lots of dimensions to it. I think it'll be competitive, I'm hoping to see some great scrambles.
No matter how this match turns out, I'd like to see Frankie and Khabib have a go at it. While Frankie's obviously a bit smaller, I think his grappling is competitive with Khabib's, with Frankie's hands being the difference on the feet. I think he could be Khabib's kryptonite.
I used to despise Frankie for those wins over BJ, but I've become a big fan over the years. It's hard not to appreciate how he buzzsawed through Yair.
He didn’t use the word “better,” that’s the point.
quoting the OP: "TLDR - Frankie’s better, he wins"
I see what you're talking about, the title... I guess I'm just so accustomed to shit grammar and non-editing on the internet (me being the worst offender), I just read what I think the other person is trying to say as if it were actually there.
Ya title should read ‘Frankie is a better grappler than ortega’ . Typo. Can’t edit the title off my phone
Let’s just settle down on the hype and have an objective look at their grappling skills shall we.
stand up grappling- don’t think I’ve seen Ortega hit a takedown in the ufc, while we all know how good Frankie’s wrestling is. So no contest- Frankie’s better here.
Top position- hardly seen Ortega work from top, Frankie is a nightmare on top, as cub Swanson can tell you. Frankie is the clear winner here.
Guard/ bottom position- Ortega gets the nod here. However, for as much as rogan jerks off about Ortega’s guard, it’s not actually that dangerous. It’s the classic Gracie guard, which is actually designed as a defensive tool. No leglocks, no fancy inverted stuff, just basic overhooks and head control.
the front headlock is where Ortega is very very good, but Frankie’s bjj coach is Ricardo almeida- who has a tremendous guillotine, and he trains at Renzos regularly, where plenty guys have great attacks from there, so he should be fine.
TLDR - Frankie’s better, he wins
most jiu jitsu guys dont use wrestling takedowns. When Hettes fought Bermudez they were #1 & #2 all time takedowns in UFC featherweight history with 23 & 22 TD. Hettes never hada single or double they were all judo trips and throws.
Let’s just settle down on the hype and have an objective look at their grappling skills shall we.
stand up grappling- don’t think I’ve seen Ortega hit a takedown in the ufc, while we all know how good Frankie’s wrestling is. So no contest- Frankie’s better here.
Top position- hardly seen Ortega work from top, Frankie is a nightmare on top, as cub Swanson can tell you. Frankie is the clear winner here.
Guard/ bottom position- Ortega gets the nod here. However, for as much as rogan jerks off about Ortega’s guard, it’s not actually that dangerous. It’s the classic Gracie guard, which is actually designed as a defensive tool. No leglocks, no fancy inverted stuff, just basic overhooks and head control.
the front headlock is where Ortega is very very good, but Frankie’s bjj coach is Ricardo almeida- who has a tremendous guillotine, and he trains at Renzos regularly, where plenty guys have great attacks from there, so he should be fine.
TLDR - Frankie’s better, he wins
most jiu jitsu guys dont use wrestling takedowns. When Hettes fought Bermudez they were #1 & #2 all time takedowns in UFC featherweight history with 23 & 22 TD. Hettes never hada single or double they were all judo trips and throws.
Yeah hettes has a judo background. Ortega doesn’t, as far as I know. And when has he hit trips or throws on anyone?
Let’s just settle down on the hype and have an objective look at their grappling skills shall we.
stand up grappling- don’t think I’ve seen Ortega hit a takedown in the ufc, while we all know how good Frankie’s wrestling is. So no contest- Frankie’s better here.
Top position- hardly seen Ortega work from top, Frankie is a nightmare on top, as cub Swanson can tell you. Frankie is the clear winner here.
Guard/ bottom position- Ortega gets the nod here. However, for as much as rogan jerks off about Ortega’s guard, it’s not actually that dangerous. It’s the classic Gracie guard, which is actually designed as a defensive tool. No leglocks, no fancy inverted stuff, just basic overhooks and head control.
the front headlock is where Ortega is very very good, but Frankie’s bjj coach is Ricardo almeida- who has a tremendous guillotine, and he trains at Renzos regularly, where plenty guys have great attacks from there, so he should be fine.
TLDR - Frankie’s better, he wins
most jiu jitsu guys dont use wrestling takedowns. When Hettes fought Bermudez they were #1 & #2 all time takedowns in UFC featherweight history with 23 & 22 TD. Hettes never hada single or double they were all judo trips and throws.
Yeah hettes has a judo background. Ortega doesn’t, as far as I know. And when has he hit trips or throws on anyone?
id love to see all his UFC takedown highlights put together. Def probably the most judo use in the octagon
Let’s just settle down on the hype and have an objective look at their grappling skills shall we.
stand up grappling- don’t think I’ve seen Ortega hit a takedown in the ufc, while we all know how good Frankie’s wrestling is. So no contest- Frankie’s better here.
Top position- hardly seen Ortega work from top, Frankie is a nightmare on top, as cub Swanson can tell you. Frankie is the clear winner here.
Guard/ bottom position- Ortega gets the nod here. However, for as much as rogan jerks off about Ortega’s guard, it’s not actually that dangerous. It’s the classic Gracie guard, which is actually designed as a defensive tool. No leglocks, no fancy inverted stuff, just basic overhooks and head control.
the front headlock is where Ortega is very very good, but Frankie’s bjj coach is Ricardo almeida- who has a tremendous guillotine, and he trains at Renzos regularly, where plenty guys have great attacks from there, so he should be fine.
TLDR - Frankie’s better, he wins
most jiu jitsu guys dont use wrestling takedowns. When Hettes fought Bermudez they were #1 & #2 all time takedowns in UFC featherweight history with 23 & 22 TD. Hettes never hada single or double they were all judo trips and throws.
Yeah hettes has a judo background. Ortega doesn’t, as far as I know. And when has he hit trips or throws on anyone?