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I think Ali is a pussy and will never step in the cage with Misha.
How many times have you gotten in there tough sauce? 
As many times as you have tough guy.
I don't blame fighters not wanting to fight Misha cuz they thy think its a bad matchup up or trying to protect thier career. this seems not to be the case here. Ali's reason for pulling out of the fight stomach virus = pussyitis sp? this guy simply just got diarrhea. I dont know the guy so i could be wrong but a lot of people seem to get stomach flu or some other excuse to not fight they guy
Seriously, are people bitching out a guy who says he had a sick stomach?
Misha already has trouble finding fights at 205 and Mokdad who seems to fight between 185 and 205 which means hes not cutting if at all, would like to have all the advantages he can get when fighting a guy who will dwarf him in size and grappling talent and youre going to whine about it?
Talk about bitching...Dougie..you seem to always be bitching about Misha.
imperato_tapstar - Talk about bitching...Dougie..you seem to always be bitching about Misha.
I talked about this in another thread. It's my own fault. I have high expectations. I understand that it's hard to get fights for the guy. I just see him fighting opponents at a higher level then he is able to currently get.
I won't deny it. i want to see Misha fight some great fights. I won't pretend to be happy with less.
I think it's a shame talented fighters like Misha and others have trouble finding opponents. Harder for them to develop their careers as fighters, worse for the fans and worse for the sport.
Just a thought, but could the difficulty of finding an opponent be due to starting competing mma late?
I understand building a fighter up, but to be honest it kind of reminds me of a situation where someone doesn't get the job because they are "over qualified"
That being said, I really don't blame people who are just starting their mma careers out for turning down fights with him. Part of the game is opponent research, correct? If so, well then, misha may have built him self up to much and left mma to late which could be causing this..
What if he started competing say 3-5 years ago? Would it be different then? I think it may be. But who knows thoug.
New guys are gonna soon realize that the level of guys starting out is high, so any opponent will be tough.
Soon, guys who turn down Misha will be offered a Muay Thai champ next then, if they turn that down, they'll be offered some wrestling phenom. Or a 24 year old kid who's been training MMA at a top gym for 8 years.
If guys won't step up and take dangerous fights against guys like this, they won't fight at all.
I can't count the number of good-wrasslin well-conditioned athletic purple belts or top strikers with solid wrestling out there right now at 0-0.
The guys who WILL step up and face a Misha or another top prospect are in for a tough night, but they will earn respect and get offered other fights.
One way to get in the game is step up and take a tough first fight. Show your heart, give a Misha or another top young guy your best, then move forward with a reputation of a guy who will put himself out there.
Sometimes you gotta take your lumps.
Robin Black -
One way to get in the game is step up and take a tough first fight. Show your heart, give a Misha or another top young guy your best, then move forward with a reputation of a guy who will put himself out there.
Sometimes you gotta take your lumps.
Truth. I heart Robin Black.
Sometimes you gotta take your lumps.
True. But you're missing one of my points. There's also a thing called playing smart. There's plenty of fighters to compete against who are not world class grapplers or strikers, to start a career with, while building yourself slowly. This is a smarter approach in my opinion.
The pool for green fighters say less then with 4 fights who are good at different elements, but not a master at one, is quite deep.
"If guys won't step up and take dangerous fights against guys like this, they won't fight at all."
I also dont understand this.
Who's to say they wouldn't take a dangerous fight once they get a little bit of experience in? Why put yourself in with the shark tank right away before going to spend some time with the fishes first? I see what you're saying about being the guy who makes a name for himself getting hammered by a top guy, but I also understand the importance of while beginning, fighting guys with relative experience, in say all areas.
Just a thought anyways.
EDM -Sometimes you gotta take your lumps.
True. But you're missing one of my points. There's also a thing called playing smart. There's plenty of fighters to compete against who are not world class grapplers or strikers, to start a career with, while building yourself slowly. This is a smarter approach in my opinion.
You are missing my point.
Honestly, go into any of 20 top gyms in Canada, and 150 in the US. There are 50 SERIOUS prospects in Canada who are still 0-0, and 200 in the US.
No, they're not all as scary as Misha. But, with 50 scary guys out there who are top shelf, bad-assed prospects, shows are not gonna bring in 1-4 Joe Below-Average anymore to help someone "build slowly".
Everyone is going to have to jump in the deep water right away with the high level out there. There are too many great guys out there rarin to go.
Ask yourself: if you owned a show, why the hell would you book a bum to lose in 2 mins when you can book two hotshots and may the best man win?
And, if no one will fight a monster like Misha, the guy who is willing to step in will get to start his career, while guys sitting around waiting for a bum may never get to fight at all.
Why put yourself in with the shark tank right away before going to spend some time with the fishes first?MMA will eventually be at the point where unless you're a shark, you'll have no business fighting pro.
v1y made the same point as me in 100 less words.
Man do I babble on.....
Your points are valid, although I still very much disagree Points well taken though.
I am currently in need of sleep and to tired to debate on the internet.
Enjoy!
Forgive my ignorance but why should everyone be petrified of this guy? (I'm not being a dick I really don't know much about him.)
Sherdog says he is 2-1, the two guys he beat have a combined 0-6 record, and he got submitted (which is apparently his strong suit) in the fight he lost.
I've only seen the first fight where he just basically clubbed the dude, but honestly,
Why is this dude so much more scary than other fighters?
Koc - Forgive my ignorance but why should everyone be petrified of this guy?
Well, because he's scary. I mean, have you seen the guy? :)
Misha is an experienced wrestler, a BJJ black belt, and a judo black belt. At the FILA Worlds in 2009, I saw him manhandle legendary BJJ black belt Comprido in submission grappling, taking him down and submitting him in just over a minute. Misha also won the no-gi Pans at black belt a couple of years ago, and I can't remember who he fought at Sub-X this year but that match went just about the same way.
I don't know anything about his striking, but his grappling is seriously legit.