"DONT" think it helps your no gi game? Most people who dont train in the gi seem to think it doesnt help. So only respond if you train with the gi a good bit. Lets say you compete as much gi as no gi.
good question
I train in a gi quite a bit, and definitely thinks it helps my no gi game. So many positions are the same.
I find the only difference between my gi game, and my no gi game are the way I grip my opponent, and my stradegy. Other than that, the techniques are pretty much the same.
People who train in fight-shorts:
Do you walk around in public with no shirt on?
Other than fights at the beach, what self-defense situations will you possibly encounter while you're almost naked?
i think the gi helps with the no gi
LMAO @ 'if you ever find yourself in a self defense situation wrestling a mostly naked man in spandex shorts, you've probably made a lot of prior bad choices that we just can't help you with!'
I prefer the gi and think it helps my no-gi game as well. Especially considering that if I had only my no-gi training to rely on I would still be a beginner cuz i haven't trained that much without it.
That said, I think training no-gi makes you use better technique when applying submissions because it's so easy to escape from them. In that sense, no-gi training helps your gi training.
"I find the only difference between my gi game, and my no gi game are the way I grip my opponent"
Agreed
i only train in the kimono. i personally like old school bjj with the gi. and of course i love the throws judo brings to the tatami...JT
I trained strictly no-gi for 1.5 years when I started training, and have trained both gi and no-gi for the past 5 years.
Training in a gi definitely helped me improve my overall game (including no-gi).
People who train in fight-shorts:
Do you walk around in public with no shirt on?
Other than fights at the beach, what self-defense situations will you possibly encounter while you're almost naked?
1) You never know when you might get jumped while sunning yourself by the pool while dressed in a thong/man-pack.
2) When you're at the gay club and you get into the music and strip down to your briefs and start dancing on the speakers, someone might jump you.
3) When you are at the bath house, a bunch of bashers might surge through the door and attack you.
i am only a blue in bjj. i think no gi training helps my gi training, and not so much the other way around. sorry
lol @ Flash...JT
LMAO @ 'if you ever find yourself in a self defense situation wrestling a mostly naked man in spandex shorts, you've probably made a lot of prior bad choices that we just can't help you with!'
"People who train in fight-shorts:
Do you walk around in public with no shirt on?
Other than fights at the beach, what self-defense situations will you possibly encounter while you're almost naked? "
now you are just apples to oranges, sport with self defense.
Training with the gi definetly helps your no-gi game because practicing defending submissions with the gi on makes it alot easier to defend submissions without the gi.
you could find examples of good and bad fighters both gi and no-gi to support any argument. Really what matters is to train what you enjoy.
I started out training gi (Judo). I started takeing up no-gi about a year ago. At first I had problems trying to adopt the sweeps from gi to no-gi but I managed by switching the Grips to underhook/overhook/armdragging. I find escaping a pin with no gi is a hell of alot easier then it is with the gi.
So yes, training with the gi helped me alot.
I think you need to do both, i do about 80/20 Gi/No-Gi
When a no gi tourny is coming up ill do all no gi for like 2-3 weeks
Personally, i think no - gi is more advanced, therfore you should start all gi. With gi the game is slower and more controlled... give someone more time to see and learn about whats happening.. plus your defense is getting damn good and your learning to be tight.
then down the road when you start no-gi ... which is much faster and crazier... you can keep a clearer head because your concepts are solid. all you need to learn is how to change from gi to no-gi griping.
I see a big difference between guys with no gi only backgrounds... thyer much looser and easier to escape most of the time
"i personally like old school bjj with the gi. and of course i love the throws judo brings to the tatami"
Throws are essential.
But they are a lot harder without the gi to grip.
Most t-shirts would just rip if you used them as a handle, so for effective real-life situations, you should train throws with no gi as well.
Throws WILL NOT work if you are attacked by a guy wearing only leather pants and slicked down with olive oil. Practicing throws is a WASTE OF TIME!