UGCTT_Zaph - A guy with average TDD will somehow not get tossed by Jones and elbowed half to death?
Right, then.
To be fair, what has happened to every single fighter who has taken Silva down in the past 6 years???
True, but Jones rarely puts himself in compromising situations on the ground. He'll use whatever top position he can achieve on the ground and just throw elbows from there.
Silva's a wizard no matter where the fight takes place, but for every skill advantage he has, Jones has a physical one.
People are making way too much out of Jones' inability to finish Rashad. I'm not saying that you are, by the way. I'm just making a general statement.
noisebully - my god the intelligence on the ug. how many fuckin exhibition-like wins does anderson need to get some of these retards to realize he's a fuckin ninja.
anything negative anyone has ever said about silva has only been speculation (or imagination) since he's been beating every one of his opponents since he first stepped into the octagon 6 years ago.
i thought shit like this would come to an end after the maia fight. if not, at least after the sonnen fight.. but wait, anderson was dominated by chael. but really? even if you're a chael nuthugger buying into all his talk (probably also republican and a proud patriot willing to risk your life for a bunch of corrupt bankers) how did you not get convinced after the belfort fight with that highlight reel knock out kick?
but really, okami, he won against anderson the first time and would do it again. he's even been training with chael.
what happens next? okami on the mat knocked out by a fuckin jab.
Im a huge anderson silva fan but what you are saying is irrelevant.
Jones is a different animal.
I can see both Jones and Anderson winning this fight in dominant fashion. It's a hard one to call. Jones is a terrible matchup for Anderson on paper, but if he chooses to strike with Andy like he did against machida and rashad, then it could be goodnight for him.
i realize i went on a rant. somewhere in there though, my point was that why do people keep questioning anderson silva when he hasn't lost for i don't know how many years.
i also realize jones is a "different animal" let alone a different physical size. still, the amount of oblivious speculation that insert your favorite fighter would smash anderson silva is ridiculous.
in that sense, jon jones is no different from any other fighter anderson has faced. people always bring up angles etc etc, and still after like 14 fights, no one has still come out with the W over him.
i called out jones way back before he was even close to a title shot saying he'd dominate the division for years etc. however, i'd never be stupid enough to claim he'd take out someone like anderson cause he hasn't earned it and never will (cause anderson will have retired when the time comes and jones keeps winning).
Wow, it is rare that GloveGate brings out the full on obvious troll/hater. He is normally much more subtle.
Not trolling, not hating. Simple statement of fact. Jones recent streak of opponents is superior to Anderson's in terms of quality and a Jones type of fighter is Anderson's weakness.
Um.....can you please direct me at the "fact"s in this statement:
"Anderson wouldn't do well against the guys Jones has fought, let alone beat him.
He doesn't want any part of it anyway. He has stated, flat out, that he will never fight Jones. He's seemingly so desperate to avoid it that he's willing to go to 170 to fight GSP.
Not sure why you're so certain, OP. "
Absolutely nothing in that post is "statement of fact". You speculate on how Anderson would do if he fought Jones' opponents (opinion). You speculate on Anderson not beating Jones. You speculate on what goes through Anderson's mind (impossible to know). You speculate that the reason he would fight GSP at 170 is because he is "desperate" to avoid Jones (more pretending you know what Anderson thinks).
So exactly what in that trolling post was "statement of fact"????
Dong Johnson - Anderson Silva fans are the new Fedor fans.
Delusional.
The hype has blinded them. Sure he's on an impressive win streak but guess who gave him the most trouble? Chael Sonnen.
Take the hype glasses off and look at Chael for what he really is. A journeyman level wrestler if he was in any other weight class. MW is so weak it's laughable.
could Chael beat Rashad, Rampage, Shogun, Machida or even Bader? Bader would destroy Chael. Yup. Better wrestling. Bigger. More power and speed. He actually finishes people.
I'll go a step further, Brandon Vera would destroy Chael Sonnen if they fought tomorrow. Via TKO or Sub.
LHW > MW by a huuuuuuuuuge margin
Jon Jones is also the best wrestler witth the most vicious top game. This fight would not be close.
Really?? We dont have any glasses on bro. All we see is greatest p4p fighter in UFC history winning fight after fight. Defending his belt more than any other champ period. Why does it make us delusional because we think Silva would stand a better chance than any other fighter against bones? The man had a bad fight with Fael, so you forget all the amazing fights hes had over the yrs?! Silva has a highlight reel a mile long full of insaine KOs and stoppages. Every mma website ranks Silva #1. Jones may get there. But until he has more wins, and over 10 title defenses. Silva remains GOAT
I would love to see this fight, but I think Gustafsson is going to be the one to beat Jones. The size differential he's enjoyed against all his previous opponents, will be irrelevant vs Gustafsson. A lot of people write Gustaf off due to his loss to Phil Davis, but he has improved 10x since that fight.
He will be the one to beat Jon Jones, guessing that he will get past Hendo.
Dong Johnson - I get his highlight reel part. that is basically the same argument of every Tyson fan.
WOW HE KNOCKED THOSE BUMS OUT WITH STYLE! HE MUST BE THE GREATEST!
Sorry no dice. at LHW, Machida and Rashad would both tool Silva with take-downs. They would be betting favorites for sure.
Chael is nothing more than a journeyman wrestler with pillow fists.
There is no argument whatsoever to place Silva above Jones in terms of P4P, GOAT status, and the most ridiculous H2H. Jon Jones is the perfectly molded fighter to beat the dog shit out of anderson Silva.
If you want to create a fighter with all the right attributes to beat Anderson
Jon Jones.
Did you seriously call us delusional?
You are pinning the entire argument against Anderson's greatness on a fight that had a HUGE amount of questionable things going on. Steroid abuse, pre-existing injuries, promises of a submission win etc. A fight were Silva did exactly what he promised he would do. Win via submission.
Now putting that aside, you want to say that Silva should not even be in discussion for GOAT over Bones? Seriously?
The kid has 3 title defenses, and 5 top 10 wins ever.
Anderson has 15ish Top 10 wins. Anderson has a top 5 win in 3 weight classes. Anderson was ranked #1 in two weight classes. Anderson was ranked Top 5 in 3 weight classes. Anderson has wins over three Top 5 P4P fighters.
Bones is the on who is not allowed in GOAT discussions with Anderson Silva or Fedor Emalianenko. Shit his career doesn't even hold a candle to Henderson/Sakuraba/Bas at this point.
DoctorVanNostran - Not a fan of either guy, but I don't see how silva could stop the takedown and brutal gnp. Jones wins in less than 3 rounds.
Lol rampage would do better? Rofl @ you right now
Um Rampage stopped every single Randleman's takedowns. Roided Randleman's takedowns.
Fedor couldn't stop them.
Anderson Silva has no chance in hell in stopping those take-downs. He couldn't even stop Chael's
Yeah because Rampage of 2007 is the same Rampage of 2011...he really takes the sport as seriously now. Since you bring up the roids, Rampage has not been as impressive in his wrestling ever since coming over from PRIDE. ;-)
Dong Johnson - I get his highlight reel part. that is basically the same argument of every Tyson fan.
WOW HE KNOCKED THOSE BUMS OUT WITH STYLE! HE MUST BE THE GREATEST!
Sorry no dice. at LHW, Machida and Rashad would both tool Silva with take-downs. They would be betting favorites for sure.
Chael is nothing more than a journeyman wrestler with pillow fists.
There is no argument whatsoever to place Silva above Jones in terms of P4P, GOAT status, and the most ridiculous H2H. Jon Jones is the perfectly molded fighter to beat the dog shit out of anderson Silva.
If you want to create a fighter with all the right attributes to beat Anderson
Jon Jones.
Did you seriously call us delusional?
You are pinning the entire argument against Anderson's greatness on a fight that had a HUGE amount of questionable things going on. Steroid abuse, pre-existing injuries, promises of a submission win etc. A fight were Silva did exactly what he promised he would do. Win via submission.
Now putting that aside, you want to say that Silva should not even be in discussion for GOAT over Bones? Seriously?
The kid has 3 title defenses, and 5 top 10 wins ever.
Anderson has 15ish Top 10 wins. Anderson has a top 5 win in 3 weight classes. Anderson was ranked #1 in two weight classes. Anderson was ranked Top 5 in 3 weight classes. Anderson has wins over three Top 5 P4P fighters.
Bones is the on who is not allowed in GOAT discussions with Anderson Silva or Fedor Emalianenko. Shit his career doesn't even hold a candle to Henderson/Sakuraba/Bas at this point.
Dong Johnson - I get his highlight reel part. that is basically the same argument of every Tyson fan.
WOW HE KNOCKED THOSE BUMS OUT WITH STYLE! HE MUST BE THE GREATEST!
Sorry no dice. at LHW, Machida and Rashad would both tool Silva with take-downs. They would be betting favorites for sure.
Chael is nothing more than a journeyman wrestler with pillow fists.
There is no argument whatsoever to place Silva above Jones in terms of P4P, GOAT status, and the most ridiculous H2H. Jon Jones is the perfectly molded fighter to beat the dog shit out of anderson Silva.
If you want to create a fighter with all the right attributes to beat Anderson
Jon Jones.
U may be right. But to completely discount Silvas chance against bones based on one fight is crazy! Every fighter thats ever been has had a bad fight or two. Jones career is young...you think its never gonna happen to him?
Jones takes Anderson down, starts ground and pounding in his unorthodox way and leaves one of his LONG ASS ARMS in for too long and andersons gets the victory by triangle or switch to arm bar.
Lol if Anderson beat nothing but bums, who has JBJ beat? An over-the-hill Rampage? A past his prime Shogun with shot knees? Top 10 ranked Bader, who got choked out by Tito? JBJ's best wins are Rashad and Machida, period. Yes his run is impressive, and he is a monster in the cage, a phenomenal athlete, there is no denying that. But to act like he'd destroy the P4P best fighter in the world, ever, is ridiculous. And FYI Glovegate, Anderson would beat Shogun, Rampage, Rashad and Bader.
