OveREEMed A New Butthole - Isn't that the same girl Ariel interviewed in this video, at 2 minutes in?
http://video.aol.com/aolvideo/aol-sports/brazilian-fans-react-to-chael-sonnen/1129058411001
Yeah man, Paula Sack (?) - Brazilian UFC reporter/presenter but primarily for the web. Got some airtime a while ago when she surfed with GSP. 
Lot of ignorance on this thread.
Most high level (re: college) American wrestlers have weight cutting down to a science. Despite the fear mongering on here, very few wrestlers who cut weight the right way undergo any short or long term health problems. There are, of course, the wrestlers from Campbell University who died, but they were cutting over 25lbs at once while loading on creatine. Daniel Cormier ended up in the hospital once, but he was trying to cut 30 lbs in one day.
More to the point, cutting weight makes you no more or less courageous. Frankie Edgar and Dan Henderson are not incredibly brave for fighting at 155 and 205, respectively. They are smart. Both have said that they feel best at those weight classes. If they felt best at 145 and 185, you can bet the house that that is where they would be.
Cutting weight offers an advantage: you get to be a bigger fighter than you would have been. It also offers some disadvantages: (1) Training camps that aren't solely focused on fighting and conditioning; (2) Unhappiness that can be carried into a fight; (3) Fatigue.
In college, I routinely cut 12-16lbs twice a week. I had a very good system down and didn't get sick; felt great and wrestled great. If those three weren't true, I wouldn't have cut as much. And it wouldn't have made me any braver.
I will say, to close, that cutting weight - especially for young wrestlers - does offer lessons in mental toughness that cannot be replicated.
OveREEMed A New Butthole -afflikshoN -croy_00 -Glen Gordon - i think the american fighters cut weight the best with the wrestling that alot of them do in high school or universityI agree, I wonder though what kind of long term health complications come from some of these college level wrestlers who would make weight twice a week. Is there any complications or is it down to such a science that it has no effect? <img src="/images/phone/droid.png" alt="Phone Post" border="0" style="vertical-align:middle;"/>
Renal failure, long term kidney damage, etc. Weight cutting is no joke and your kidneys go through hell every time. A lot of people (who don't know what they're talking about) think same-day weigh-ins are the answer. The only thing same-day weigh-ins would bring is in-cage renal failure for the fighters; you can only put your body through so much in a 24 hour period.
So how about manning up and fighting in your natural weight category?
After a couple of fighters get renal failure and get their shit pushed in by a fighter that is natural at that weight they'll learn and move up.
No they won't. I'm really puzzled at why people think that fighters (who make money by beating up others and getting beat up) aren't willing to take a dangerous chance with their bodies to get an edge in competition. The only thing that would change is the number of mma related fatalities in and outside the cage. Weight cutting is a huge part of combat sports and always will be, deal with it.
^ I take that back, steroid usage and gassing would also increase dramatically.
afflikshoN -croy_00 -Glen Gordon - i think the american fighters cut weight the best with the wrestling that alot of them do in high school or universityI agree, I wonder though what kind of long term health complications come from some of these college level wrestlers who would make weight twice a week. Is there any complications or is it down to such a science that it has no effect? <img src="/images/phone/droid.png" alt="Phone Post" border="0" style="vertical-align:middle;"/>
Renal failure, long term kidney damage, etc. Weight cutting is no joke and your kidneys go through hell every time. A lot of people (who don't know what they're talking about) think same-day weigh-ins are the answer. The only thing same-day weigh-ins would bring is in-cage renal failure for the fighters; you can only put your body through so much in a 24 hour period.
MarsMan -wiggum - Lot of ignorance on this thread.That's a pretty good post.
Most high level (re: college) American wrestlers have weight cutting down to a science. Despite the fear mongering on here, very few wrestlers who cut weight the right way undergo any short or long term health problems. There are, of course, the wrestlers from Campbell University who died, but they were cutting over 25lbs at once while loading on creatine. Daniel Cormier ended up in the hospital once, but he was trying to cut 30 lbs in one day.
More to the point, cutting weight makes you no more or less courageous. Frankie Edgar and Dan Henderson are not incredibly brave for fighting at 155 and 205, respectively. They are smart. Both have said that they feel best at those weight classes. If they felt best at 145 and 185, you can bet the house that that is where they would be.
Cutting weight offers an advantage: you get to be a bigger fighter than you would have been. It also offers some disadvantages: (1) Training camps that aren't solely focused on fighting and conditioning; (2) Unhappiness that can be carried into a fight; (3) Fatigue.
In college, I routinely cut 12-16lbs twice a week. I had a very good system down and didn't get sick; felt great and wrestled great. If those three weren't true, I wouldn't have cut as much. And it wouldn't have made me any braver.
I will say, to close, that cutting weight - especially for young wrestlers - does offer lessons in mental toughness that cannot be replicated.
Would you mind explaining how you do it?
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Can anyone reupload the video?
ec - Can anyone reupload the video?
Chiron -afflikshoN -croy_00 -Glen Gordon - i think the american fighters cut weight the best with the wrestling that alot of them do in high school or universityI agree, I wonder though what kind of long term health complications come from some of these college level wrestlers who would make weight twice a week. Is there any complications or is it down to such a science that it has no effect? <img src="/images/phone/droid.png" alt="Phone Post" border="0" style="vertical-align:middle;"/>
Renal failure, long term kidney damage, etc. Weight cutting is no joke and your kidneys go through hell every time. A lot of people (who don't know what they're talking about) think same-day weigh-ins are the answer. The only thing same-day weigh-ins would bring is in-cage renal failure for the fighters; you can only put your body through so much in a 24 hour period.
Not true. Every problem of that sort that I've heard of happen happened with day-before weigh-ins, not day-of. Deaths under a day-before system were why day-of was implemented in the first place in wrestling (though their day-of system could definitely be improved).
Promotions like the UFC could easily implement day-of weigh-ins AND prevent fighters from fighting dehydrated. How? Keep the day-before weigh-ins for tradition sake, and at that time make the fighters take a standardized hydration test (from blood sample), then make them weigh in just before fight time at or within 1-2 lbs of their previous days weigh-in weight. Make them take a urine hydration test as well if you want for good measure. There. Now people are fighting in a weight class that is more natural, there is no risk of renal issues, and no more gassing from a bad weight cut to interfere with the quality of the performance and the card.
You guys act like we're living in the stone ages when modern medicine has easy, relatively cheap, ways to make sure someone is adequately hydrated. It's nowhere near complicated like the steroid issue is.
Willin -Chiron -afflikshoN -croy_00 -Glen Gordon - i think the american fighters cut weight the best with the wrestling that alot of them do in high school or universityI agree, I wonder though what kind of long term health complications come from some of these college level wrestlers who would make weight twice a week. Is there any complications or is it down to such a science that it has no effect?
Renal failure, long term kidney damage, etc. Weight cutting is no joke and your kidneys go through hell every time. A lot of people (who don't know what they're talking about) think same-day weigh-ins are the answer. The only thing same-day weigh-ins would bring is in-cage renal failure for the fighters; you can only put your body through so much in a 24 hour period.
Not true. Every problem of that sort that I've heard of happen happened with day-before weigh-ins, not day-of. Deaths under a day-before system were why day-of was implemented in the first place in wrestling (though their day-of system could definitely be improved).
Promotions like the UFC could easily implement day-of weigh-ins AND prevent fighters from fighting dehydrated. How? Keep the day-before weigh-ins for tradition sake, and at that time make the fighters take a standardized hydration test (from blood sample), then make them weigh in just before fight time at or within 1-2 lbs of their previous days weigh-in weight. Make them take a urine hydration test as well if you want for good measure. There. Now people are fighting in a weight class that is more natural, there is no risk of renal issues, and no more gassing from a bad weight cut to interfere with the quality of the performance and the card.
You guys act like we're living in the stone ages when modern medicine has easy, relatively cheap, ways to make sure someone is adequately hydrated. It's nowhere near complicated like the steroid issue is.
You're assuming the UFC doesn't want their fighters to look like shredded animals when they step in the ring which is a mistake.
MMA athletes have to look the part and cutting tons of weight helps toward that end. It aids in marketability. Why do you think the ladies love GSP even though many of them have never seen him fight? It's because he has the riddum and he has a shredded physique.
Sucking out and cutting weight = good for the UFC image and marketability. It will never change.
has any1 got a working link ?
Auswilliam - has any1 got a working link ?
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Aldo has the same case as Jon Jones. They are still so young and as they get older they are still getting bigger and gaining mass. Aldo is not going to stay at 145 (and Jones at 205) for much longer.
does the UFC not want people to see the ugly side of what they go through or what? is that why the videos got taken down?
I would love to see some of these guys fight without cutting weight
The Notorious OMG - does the UFC not want people to see the ugly side of what they go through or what? is that why the videos got taken down?
I would love to see some of these guys fight without cutting weight
