So, I just finished reading the SI story on Alistair Overeem and the "BJ Penn Fallacy".
LOL
Who let this idiot write anything about MMA?
First off, BJ Penn IS one of the greatest fighters to ever step foot in a cage. He was in the Top 10 P4P rankings for about 8 years solid. Anyone who knows jack shit about MMA knows that BJ Penn can end a fight in a heartbeat with one punch or one submission. He has fought as high as LHW (though not successful, his willingness to fight MUCH bigger opponents should earn him some credit), and, has some VERY controversial losses over some of the best fighters in MMA. Oh and lets' not forget that Freddie Roach said BJ Penn had some of the best boxing of any MMA fighter, and that BJ Penn was the first non-brazilian to win the Mundials. But I guess being a Champion in two different weight classes in MMA and a Champion in the most prestigious grappling tourney ever is irrelevent to the conversation Tim Marchman wants to have.
Second, Mr. Marchman insists that BJ Penn was "Thrashed twice" by Frankie Edgar. Personally, I think the first fight could have gone either way. In my opinion, Frankie didn't do enough in the first fight to gain the belt. However, in the second fight Edgar did. It was not, however, a thrashing- as Tim Marchman professes. A thrashing would be what BJ Penn did to the previous 4 title contenders, all of which (like BJ) had fought at weights as high as 185.
There's more though. He uses this comparison of a GREAT fighter against Alistair Overeem in order to label both nothing more than mediocre.
Alistair Overeem is a mediocre fighter? I realize his competition has not been THAT stiff in MMA, however, in K1 his competition was VERY stiff. Beating Badr Hari and Peter Aerts is no joke.
Also, maybe this gentleman is not aware that Overeem is an European ADCC CHAMPION. Not the most prestigious of grappling tourneys, sure, but still more than Mr. Marchman has ever accomplished.
Then there's the fact that Overeem is the ONLY man in MMA history to hold 3 belts simultaneously. Has he defended those belts? No, but, neither has Cain Velasquez who only has ONE victory over a worthwhile opponent in ALL of his fights but is still considered #1 in the world by most Fans and Critics.
So where did all this come from? Well, I'm going to guess that Tim Marchman was picked on in school, probably by some muscle-bound jock who wanted nothing more than to torture the helpless Marchman day-in and day-out. Thus, Tim developed a severe hatred of any type of natural talent, whether it be a naturally muscular physique in the case of Overeem, OR, it be the awesome natural fighting talent of BJ Penn.
Either way, Tim Marchman is a moron who should go back to watching WWE OR learn himself some MMA history and STFU until he knows what the fuck he's talking about.
Great post Mr O'Bedsmen..
bwahahahah nice new name bud!
honestly, his hackiness deserved 3 threads, just so hackish...
Tom, you spelled moran wrong.
japetto - Alistair Overeem and the BJ Penn Fallacy
(39) [1015] by Deaf Forever - 1 2
BJ Penn Fallacy... Really?
(12) [582] by Mphelan
I saw them, but, I wanted to say my piece seperately.
Don't like it? Don't care.
Cyril Jeff - honestly, his hackiness deserved 3 threads, just so hackish...
lol Maybe you guys have just ignored the UG for the last decade...
There will most likely be WAY more than 3 threads about any particular subject.
Build a bridge.
japetto -Tom O'BedsMen -japetto - Alistair Overeem and the BJ Penn Fallacy
(39) [1015] by Deaf Forever - 1 2
BJ Penn Fallacy... Really?
(12) [582] by Mphelan
I saw them, but, I wanted to say my piece seperately.
Don't like it? Don't care.
Separately, IMO.
You're entitled to your opinion.
RickStorm - Great post Mr O'Bedsmen..
bwahahahah nice new name bud!
Thanks, Rick.
It's pretty funny. I cannot lie. Sideshowsteve did well.
Makes me laugh when I sign in.
Tom O'BedsMen -build a bridge?Cyril Jeff - honestly, his hackiness deserved 3 threads, just so hackish...
lol Maybe you guys have just ignored the UG for the last decade...
There will most likely be WAY more than 3 threads about any particular subject.
Build a bridge.
I don't need to get over anything fren.
Cyril Jeff -Tom O'BedsMen -build a bridge?Cyril Jeff - honestly, his hackiness deserved 3 threads, just so hackish...
lol Maybe you guys have just ignored the UG for the last decade...
There will most likely be WAY more than 3 threads about any particular subject.
Build a bridge.
I don't need to get over anything fren.
Move on.
Aye aye Captain! where to!?