Mickey Choi, again

 Happy New Year to the forum. When all the weirdness surrounding Mickey Choi and his mysterious "black" belt came up before I just let it go. The internet is plenty to deal with liars and fakes. And this is exactly what happened in Korea. A reporter put together a piece on what a charlatan Mickey Choi is, and most people were relieved.



The problem began when Mickey Choi sued this reporter. The reporter now has to go the police for an interview of sorts and prove his innocence. I told him I would help in any way I can. For now, please post any relevant information in this thread. You may also send documents to me at johnfrankl@yahoo.com, but I would like a public record as well, so that people who come to this late will not be deceived.



Thank you,



John

Who the hell is Mickey Choi and who are you? Any background info would be nice. Also blackbelt in what? BJJ?

John Frankly = legit BJJ black belt.

Mickey Choi = Korean kid who claims judo and BJJ black belts from people who say they didn't give him any belts.

yeah I met Mickey Choi a year before his claimed BB. I also used to train with Dave Hagaan in May 2004 and he had just barely recieved his blue belt.

720 - Who the hell is Mickey Choi and who are you? Any background info would be nice. Also blackbelt in what? BJJ?


 John Frankl is one of the finest men to grace martial arts. He is a black belt in BJJ.

 Thank you, Kirik.



And thanks for the replies so far. Mickey is in a corner, but he now hides behind Dave Hagon (or Hagan), saying Dave gave him his blackbelt. Many people on other threads said Dave makes the same claim about Mickey. If I can confirm that they are each hiding behind the other, this reporter is off the hook.



Can anyone verify that Dave claims to have received his black belt from Mickey?



Thanks,



John

You may have already seen these links, but they all relate to Mickey Choi:

Nhbgear thread on him:
http://www.nhbgear.com/forum/index.php/topic,84388.30.html

Article from a member of the Utah Machado team:
http://web.archive.org/web/20071026102626rn_1/www.slcbjj.com/machadoslc/

I am not vouching for the accuracy of any of this, just saying these links mention his name.

I believe that the proprietor of this site can tell you all you need to know about Mickey Choi:
http://www.slcbjj.com/

Thank you. But Mickey is quite a good liar. And he is no longer claiming Machado or Telles affiliations. Rather, he has pinned his entire lie on the following sequence:



Fabio (Last name unknown) gave Dave Hagon a black belt. Dave Hagon gave Mickey a black belt.



The only way to get him in Korea is to prove definitively that no one named Fabio anything gave Dave Hagon a black belt.



Do you have any ideas about how to start?



Thank you,



John

 Dojo storm?

where is dave hagan? can anyone track this guy down? i believe the paper trail starts there

Kirik - John Frankl is one of the finest men to grace martial arts. He is a black belt in BJJ.


He is also a deadbeat when it comes to paying bets he made on this forum. He still owes me $50 from when Drew Fickett beat Kenny Florian a few years ago.

I find it funny that he come's on here attacking another man's integrity when Mr. Frankl himself has not been honorable himself in past business dealings.

mikeblak - 
Kirik - John Frankl is one of the finest men to grace martial arts. He is a black belt in BJJ.





He is also a deadbeat when it comes to paying bets he made on this forum. He still owes me $50 from when Drew Fickett beat Kenny Florian a few years ago.



I find it funny that he come's on here attacking another man's integrity when Mr. Frankl himself has not been honorable himself in past business dealings.


 I am sure it is a misunderstanding, and am happy to make good on it. Email me Kirik@MMA.tv :-)

Thanks for your generous offer Kirik, but I couldn't take money from you for someone else's debt. I bet Chris Palmquist on that fight too and he paid up. Maybe he could direct you to the original thread as I can't seem to locate it, but I assure you there was no misunderstanding. What I would like is a reply from Mr. Frankl on why he hasn't paid and/or contacted me.

If I remember the name correctly, I think it is Dave Hagan that trained at Absolute MMA in West Jordan, Utah. They are a legit Behring school. You might try asking them if they have any idea how to contact Hagan. I think they may also have interesting things to say about Hagan's belt level when he left there.

Message sent to mikeblak. Apologies to fellow forum members for my mistake.

John

Civil suit. Defamation of character, I believe.

 John, where's the lawsuit? Korea?





You can always counter-sue






Thank you for your email John, I emailed you back. I'm glad we could finally get this all sorted out. Enjoy your time overseas.

Law suit is in Korea, against a reporter.

I'm suprised that I haven't heard about this before, in fact, I don't even know who Mickey Choi was!



What name is he known under in Korea?



I'm not too upto date with whole Korean BJJ scene despite my interest in MMA.





How's Lee doing anyways?