I think he’s being very short sighted, this fight would give him way more credibility/casual fan recognition than any of his last title defenses that no one cared about, when your a big draw you can start making big demands but honestly right now other I have pretty much zero interest in whoever the next contender from his very shallow pool is.
the fact is this is twice he’s put barriers up to the TJ fight. Part of what made Conor so popular was his fuck it I’ll fight anyone attitude. He sort of reminds me of Ronda v Cyborg pre Holly when she was dominating her division but pretty much refusing the one fight her people wanted
As for wanting to be a co main, your pretty much acknowledging you can’t draw for shit even in a super fight against a big name.
keep holding out and get remembered as the champ with the long reign against nobodies that nobody gave a fuck about.
Beating TJ Dillishaw isn’t going to all of a sudden make him a big draw. Bisping couldn’t draw 300k buys with Hendo. Cormier can’t do over 300k without Jones. Woodley is in the same range. Stipe couldn’t donober 300k against former champ JDS.
Don’t act like beating an unknown (to casual fans) on a card no one sees is going to catapult him into superstar status
It’s not going to make him a superstar but if he wins a champion v champion ‘super fight’ against TJ it’s going to give him 10 times more hype than he’s going to get beating the number 11th ranked contender who was on a fight night undercard in his last fight.
like I said I think it’s short sighted, refuse to fight TJ because he’s not on a stacked card so he takes and dominates some unknown, then what? TJ moves on still no one cares anymore than they did after he beat Borg, he still can’t draw and still won’t get paid what he thinks he’s with as a dominant champ
I think he’s being very short sighted, this fight would give him way more credibility/casual fan recognition than any of his last title defenses that no one cared about, when your a big draw you can start making big demands but honestly right now other I have pretty much zero interest in whoever the next contender from his very shallow pool is.
the fact is this is twice he’s put barriers up to the TJ fight. Part of what made Conor so popular was his fuck it I’ll fight anyone attitude. He sort of reminds me of Ronda v Cyborg pre Holly when she was dominating her division but pretty much refusing the one fight her people wanted
As for wanting to be a co main, your pretty much acknowledging you can’t draw for shit even in a super fight against a big name.
keep holding out and get remembered as the champ with the long reign against nobodies that nobody gave a fuck about.
Beating TJ Dillishaw isn’t going to all of a sudden make him a big draw. Bisping couldn’t draw 300k buys with Hendo. Cormier can’t do over 300k without Jones. Woodley is in the same range. Stipe couldn’t donober 300k against former champ JDS.
Don’t act like beating an unknown (to casual fans) on a card no one sees is going to catapult him into superstar status
It’s not going to make him a superstar but if he wins a champion v champion ‘super fight’ against TJ it’s going to give him 10 times more hype than he’s going to get beating the number 11th ranked contender who was on a fight night undercard in his last fight.
like I said I think it’s short sighted, refuse to fight TJ because he’s not on a stacked card so he takes and dominates some unknown, then what? TJ moves on still no one cares anymore than they did after he beat Borg, he still can’t draw and still won’t get paid what he thinks he’s with as a dominant champ
How is beating TJ going to give him 10X the hype? Last time TJ headlined a PPV it did 125K buys. No one gives a shit about him either. So unless it’s on a big card, which DJ wants, and since neither are a draw, no one is going to see it.
So what happens if he doesn’t fight TJ and keeps fighting others in his weight class? Well, then he continues to make $500K per fight twice a year until he decides to retire. Doesn’t sound like a bad gig.
By the way, it’s funny when people say DJ hasn’t “earned” a fight on a big card yet and isn’t worthy, or something.
Look at UFC 217, Bisping vs GSP.
Cody vs TJ was the co-main event. Rose vs Joanna was 3rd down on the card.
None of those 4 are any bigger draws than MM. If they “deserve” to be on a big card, not sure how anyone can say the longest running champ in UFC history doesn’t.
DJ wants to get paid and he deserves to get paid. I don’t get why some of you hate on him for doing what some of your favorite fighters have been doing their entire careers. DJ has fought the who’s who of his division and dominated all of them. Now he’s willing to accept the most dangerous fight of his career and he wants to compensated fairly, but somehow this is wrong? Fuck off.
I think he’s being very short sighted, this fight would give him way more credibility/casual fan recognition than any of his last title defenses that no one cared about, when your a big draw you can start making big demands but honestly right now other I have pretty much zero interest in whoever the next contender from his very shallow pool is.
the fact is this is twice he’s put barriers up to the TJ fight. Part of what made Conor so popular was his fuck it I’ll fight anyone attitude. He sort of reminds me of Ronda v Cyborg pre Holly when she was dominating her division but pretty much refusing the one fight her people wanted
As for wanting to be a co main, your pretty much acknowledging you can’t draw for shit even in a super fight against a big name.
keep holding out and get remembered as the champ with the long reign against nobodies that nobody gave a fuck about.
Beating TJ Dillishaw isn’t going to all of a sudden make him a big draw. Bisping couldn’t draw 300k buys with Hendo. Cormier can’t do over 300k without Jones. Woodley is in the same range. Stipe couldn’t donober 300k against former champ JDS.
Don’t act like beating an unknown (to casual fans) on a card no one sees is going to catapult him into superstar status
It’s not going to make him a superstar but if he wins a champion v champion ‘super fight’ against TJ it’s going to give him 10 times more hype than he’s going to get beating the number 11th ranked contender who was on a fight night undercard in his last fight.
like I said I think it’s short sighted, refuse to fight TJ because he’s not on a stacked card so he takes and dominates some unknown, then what? TJ moves on still no one cares anymore than they did after he beat Borg, he still can’t draw and still won’t get paid what he thinks he’s with as a dominant champ
How is beating TJ going to give him 10X the hype? Last time TJ headlined a PPV it did 125K buys. No one gives a shit about him either. So unless it’s on a big card, which DJ wants, and since neither are a draw, no one is going to see it.
So what happens if he doesn’t fight TJ and keeps fighting others in his weight class? Well, then he continues to make $500K per fight twice a year until he decides to retire. Doesn’t sound like a bad gig.
Because TJ is the champion of the division above and a name and it’s a very intriguing match up that I’d be interested to see.
I’m a fairly hardcore fan and have absolutely no idea of who the next contender on his division is.
Honestly how excited would you be for a Borg or Dodson rematch? How excited would you be for the TJ fight?
i agree earning that money and outclassing opponents isn’t a bad gig, but he’s obviously unhappy with it.
I think he’s being very short sighted, this fight would give him way more credibility/casual fan recognition than any of his last title defenses that no one cared about, when your a big draw you can start making big demands but honestly right now other I have pretty much zero interest in whoever the next contender from his very shallow pool is.
the fact is this is twice he’s put barriers up to the TJ fight. Part of what made Conor so popular was his fuck it I’ll fight anyone attitude. He sort of reminds me of Ronda v Cyborg pre Holly when she was dominating her division but pretty much refusing the one fight her people wanted
As for wanting to be a co main, your pretty much acknowledging you can’t draw for shit even in a super fight against a big name.
keep holding out and get remembered as the champ with the long reign against nobodies that nobody gave a fuck about.
Beating TJ Dillishaw isn’t going to all of a sudden make him a big draw. Bisping couldn’t draw 300k buys with Hendo. Cormier can’t do over 300k without Jones. Woodley is in the same range. Stipe couldn’t donober 300k against former champ JDS.
Don’t act like beating an unknown (to casual fans) on a card no one sees is going to catapult him into superstar status
It’s not going to make him a superstar but if he wins a champion v champion ‘super fight’ against TJ it’s going to give him 10 times more hype than he’s going to get beating the number 11th ranked contender who was on a fight night undercard in his last fight.
like I said I think it’s short sighted, refuse to fight TJ because he’s not on a stacked card so he takes and dominates some unknown, then what? TJ moves on still no one cares anymore than they did after he beat Borg, he still can’t draw and still won’t get paid what he thinks he’s with as a dominant champ
How is beating TJ going to give him 10X the hype? Last time TJ headlined a PPV it did 125K buys. No one gives a shit about him either. So unless it’s on a big card, which DJ wants, and since neither are a draw, no one is going to see it.
So what happens if he doesn’t fight TJ and keeps fighting others in his weight class? Well, then he continues to make $500K per fight twice a year until he decides to retire. Doesn’t sound like a bad gig.
Because TJ is the champion of the division above and a name and it’s a very intriguing match up that I’d be interested to see.
I’m a fairly hardcore fan and have absolutely no idea of who the next contender on his division is.
Honestly how excited would you be for a Borg or Dodson rematch? How excited would you be for the TJ fight?
i agree earning that money and outclassing opponents isn’t a bad gig, but he’s obviously unhappy with it.
No I agree it will be a very exciting fight and I would def watch. Just disagreeing that it will increase his draw power much because no one clearly cares to buy TJ’s ppv’s either.
Now, if the fight were at 135, that may be a different story. MM would be a dual weight champion. This fight is a win/win for TJ. Not DJ. TJ loses he’s still champ and goes back to 135 and defends.
Honestly it seems weird to me the UFC would allow this at 125. TJ will not keep that belt (why give up 135 to keep lighter weight class belt) if he wins, so they’re essentially setting up a possibility of having someone come down, take belt away, and leave. Would make sense for MM to go up. He loses he goes back down. He wins he’d likely stay at a higher weight class, as people seem to dislike 125 anyhow.
If it’s a superfight why can’t it hold its own as a main event?
Zero respect for Johnson.
Id stream it just so he doesn’t get one extra PPV buy for being such a pussy.
Superfights don’t need stacked cards.
See Floyd Mayweather vs Conor. Who was the undercard?
Who Cares?
Mighty Mouse wants to prep the Bull is what he is saying and then eat the cream pie.
Uncle Dana. Shove him on FOX vs TJ and then pay TJ a locker room bonus for ridding us of this guy who isn’t harsh enough to be a heel or charismatic enough to pay to see.
DJ wants to get paid and he deserves to get paid. I don’t get why some of you hate on him for doing what some of your favorite fighters have been doing their entire careers. DJ has fought the who’s who of his division and dominated all of them. Now he’s willing to accept the most dangerous fight of his career and he wants to compensated fairly, but somehow this is wrong? Fuck off.
He should have been trying to make himself a star instead of expecting to suck a GSP, Rousey, McGregor or Lesnar teat.
It’s weakness.
Hes at once admitting he doesn’t deserve to be paid like a star while begging for trickle down charity from real stars headlining the show.
DJ wants to get paid and he deserves to get paid. I don’t get why some of you hate on him for doing what some of your favorite fighters have been doing their entire careers. DJ has fought the who’s who of his division and dominated all of them. Now he’s willing to accept the most dangerous fight of his career and he wants to compensated fairly, but somehow this is wrong? Fuck off.
He should have been trying to make himself a star instead of expecting to suck a GSP, Rousey, McGregor or Lesnar teat.
It’s weakness.
Hes at once admitting he doesn’t deserve to be paid like a star while begging for trickle down charity from real stars headlining the show.
There are 2 current, active (if you can call it that) UFC fighters who can draw over 300K buys. Conor and GSP.
Are you saying only 2/400 are capable of it, or do you think some would expect the promoter to, you know, promote fighters?
My guess is if Stipe, Cormier, or Mighty Mouse were given a “World Tour” by the UFC they’d draw a lot more too.
DJ wants to get paid and he deserves to get paid. I don’t get why some of you hate on him for doing what some of your favorite fighters have been doing their entire careers. DJ has fought the who’s who of his division and dominated all of them. Now he’s willing to accept the most dangerous fight of his career and he wants to compensated fairly, but somehow this is wrong? Fuck off.
How does he deserve to get paid? He's been promoted as the GOAT, the UFC have tried to make him marketable but no one bites.
The present MMA fans could not give a fuck about records, no one was around when the previous record was made and they aren't interested in a little dude breaking them, they just want to see Conor and that's it.
The sport is pretty much dead at this point, DJ asking to be on a stacked card should tell you all there is to know. The UFC can't just pay him what he wants if he doesn't earn them anything, that's not how it works unfortunatley. Yeah he's a good fighter but those days are long gone, we're in the talk shit and be a complete dickhole era now, that's the only thing bringing in the views. It sucks but that's how it is.
How could anybody consider this unreasonable? He knows what PPV numbers the smaller weight classes get. Neither he nor TJ are going to break the bank. Every card is made up not just of the main event, but many fights. For the longest reigning champion in the organization to say he’s willing to take a superfight against a bigger champion but expects to get his fair share for it is completely reasonable. The UFC has been taking a stupid cut of the proceeds for years and feeding the fighters scraps. There is enough revenue from each card to break him off a bigger piece and still see everyone else make a handsome payday.
He’s not complaining, he’s setting conditions for accepting a fight that doesn’t fall within his contractual obligations. Either the terms are accepted and we have a great co-main event on a stacked card, or they aren’t and he keeps doing what he does.
If it’s a superfight why can’t it hold its own as a main event?
Zero respect for Johnson.
Id stream it just so he doesn’t get one extra PPV buy for being such a pussy.
Superfights don’t need stacked cards.
See Floyd Mayweather vs Conor. Who was the undercard?
Who Cares?
Mighty Mouse wants to prep the Bull is what he is saying and then eat the cream pie.
Uncle Dana. Shove him on FOX vs TJ and then pay TJ a locker room bonus for ridding us of this guy who isn’t harsh enough to be a heel or charismatic enough to pay to see.
I say this with all due respect.
You’re too stupid to engage in conversation, online or otherwise. You should stop talking, for the sake of humanity. But you won’t, because you’re too stupid to recognize this truth.
youarewhatiswrong - How could anybody consider this unreasonable? He knows what PPV numbers the smaller weight classes get. Neither he nor TJ are going to break the bank. Every card is made up not just of the main event, but many fights. For the longest reigning champion in the organization to say he's willing to take a superfight against a bigger champion but expects to get his fair share for it is completely reasonable. The UFC has been taking a stupid cut of the proceeds for years and feeding the fighters scraps. There is enough revenue from each card to break him off a bigger piece and still see everyone else make a handsome payday.
He’s not complaining, he’s setting conditions for accepting a fight that doesn’t fall within his contractual obligations. Either the terms are accepted and we have a great co-main event on a stacked card, or they aren’t and he keeps doing what he does.
MMA fans are ridiculous stupid.
But wether it’s him or it’s the weight class, if he’s not pulling in numbers why would the ufc pay him more,
not saying he’s not incredibly talented or that it’s fair but it’s business if you only create a small amount of revenue your not going to get paid as much as the people who pull in the big numbers
youarewhatiswrong - How could anybody consider this unreasonable? He knows what PPV numbers the smaller weight classes get. Neither he nor TJ are going to break the bank. Every card is made up not just of the main event, but many fights. For the longest reigning champion in the organization to say he's willing to take a superfight against a bigger champion but expects to get his fair share for it is completely reasonable. The UFC has been taking a stupid cut of the proceeds for years and feeding the fighters scraps. There is enough revenue from each card to break him off a bigger piece and still see everyone else make a handsome payday.
He’s not complaining, he’s setting conditions for accepting a fight that doesn’t fall within his contractual obligations. Either the terms are accepted and we have a great co-main event on a stacked card, or they aren’t and he keeps doing what he does.
MMA fans are ridiculous stupid.
But wether it’s him or it’s the weight class, if he’s not pulling in numbers why would the ufc pay him more,
not saying he’s not incredibly talented or that it’s fair but it’s business if you only create a small amount of revenue your not going to get paid as much as the people who pull in the big numbers
He doesn’t create small revenue.
People seem to think that Conor Mcgregor is the UFC. He isn't. He is only able to ascend to the status he has because he fights in an organization with credible, legitimate fighters that he both competes against and supports his cards with lead up fights.
A card with 5 fights between nobodies with no story or fanbase and then Conor Mcgregor is not going to sell as well as a Conor Mcgregor card supported by legitimate fights. More importantly, the word of mouth generated by the credibility of the fights leading up to the fight will provide future dividends over a card that had 5 shitty fights and then a Conor Mcgregor fight. That's how you build future revenue, and WME doesn't get that. They blow their wad on one big fight preceded by a bunch of no names and shitty chick fights, and half the time the main event gets cancelled anyway. PPV sales are in the tank and trending in the wrong direction.
Having the longest reigning champion fighting a larger champion supporting GSP vs Conor adds immediate value to the card, as well as future value.