"Why don't you look at the mandatory sentencing requirements for crack v. cocaine?"
that's funny, you just said blacks are crackheads and dope pushers...way to not be racist. As to your other point, say America does have a race/class/economic angle, how do 'black countries' do world wide? How many whites live in haiti? yea, save the bullshit. If you believe one stereotype you have to believe them all....prolly better to do the right thing and judge people on a case by case basis.
Pretty interesting that I am asked to provide stats and sources for IQ and intellectual achievement but no one provides any stats that prove blacks are superior athletes. Do you get all your data on what constitutes superior athleticism from watching American sports on the TV? How about providing some real data on the racial demographics of athletes in all sports, in ways that can be measured, that prove black athletic superiority?
Further, when statistics ARE provided as 'proof' of negative stereotypes for minorities in any field there are always excuses. The criminal justice system is biased; lack of proper training facilities; corrupt governments; lack of funding in education or poor schools; prior historical discrimination, etc. Are there any sources that I can provide that would be trusted as accurate?
You do realize of course that if you believe blacks are superior athletically to all other races but are equal to other races in all other areas that makes you a black supremacist, right? If all races are 'equal' in all areas except athletics, in which blacks are supposed to be superior, then that would make them superior to all other races. 1+0 > 0+0
The point I am trying to make is that you shouldn't so easily accept positve stereotypes if you aren't willing to accept negative ones.
OneScoup - I'm white and I've been training in boxing for years. If I could stererotype my own people I'd say there is a lot of truth to the idea that white fighters don't seem to want to dedicate themselves as much to defense, footwork and balance. They wanna work on power and be brawlers, they want to spend their time bodybuilding outside class.
There's a saying in boxing, "if you can dance, you can box." It's not that white people gentically can't dance, but white American is a dance deficient culture, obsessed with muscle bound fake machoism. And I really think carries over to white boxers and the lack of great white ball handlers in basketball.
I think its a cultural thing as well. I'm Asian and dancing is most definitely not our forte, unless you're Filipino. Academics and the need to achieve success materially is more important than the desire for athletics and dance culture.
That said, I've seen good white and Asian boxers who would be called whiggers by the posters on this board because they understand the rhythm and movement that Bernard advocates. Joe Calzaghe and Gerry Penalosa are good examples.
I think Bernard was just saying he needs to get more polished defensively and learn the tricks that have allowed Hopkins to win fights like this at age 43. He did not get this far by not knowing what he is doing. Bernard has always been known as great defensive fighter who also has a lot of tricks. He is not a guy who relies on beating his opponents with superior speed or power. He is good at the fundamentals, great defensively and very crafty. Bernard is not out there fighting like Mayweather Jr or Roy Jones. He is good at fighting in close quarters, holding and hitting, hitting off the break/dirty fighting etc. He has been fighting forever but he is not a guy who has taken a ton of damage over that time.
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"I didn't say anything about anyone being "crackheads and dope pushers"
Try and wrap your puny brain around the concepts of race v. class. Crack is more prevalent in low income neighborhoods than powdered cocaine. This is because it costs less money."
there are literally, thousands of white people who are 'poorer' than blacks (think Appalachia numbnuts) yet they aren't doing time for slinging crack...again, you said blacks are crackheads and dope pushers, it seems you might be too stupid to realize the full spectrum of implications of what you said though...are you, by any chance, a crack user?
"What I'm saying is you can't make sweeping generalizations about a certain ethnic group based on facts, without properly citing ALL the pertinent facts. This keeps people from making silly arguments."
then why don't you realize the stupidity of what you said? Again, you can't pick and choose your racial stereotypes...
"look at the power structure of those countries, or better yet. . . . gasp actually go there or talk to someone from there. You might learn something."
power structure? What are you 16? You think the power structure of haiti or african nations is the result of their perpetually fucked up societies....jesus kid, you are a mess. Do yourself a favor, whatever shitty school you are writing a paper for hopefully has a library, visit it and read up these subjects and we'll pray you can get your head outta your ass.
Wovito -THP - Oh it is fine for a black person to say racially motivated comments, but if a white person says them they're automatically racist. We live in such a pathetic America today.
^^^ Saying someone needs to be more like black fighters is not the same thing as calling some a "whigger" (white nigger if i understand the term correctly), for nothing other than liking a certain black fighter better than a certain white fighter.
You're a sad human being.
Wovito -flesheatingbull -Sandy Panties -Phundamental -LOL @ all the slow white dudes on this thread who are upset about being athletically inferior.
Right...cause it's not different when all the intellectually challenged black guys get's upset because they are mentally inferior?
Your statement shows how fucking stupid you are and what a feeble attempt to sidestep the topic of the thread instead of addressing and giving a counter argument. Fucking faggot.
I didn't see the fight but I was pulling for Pavlik (because I'm white) and I am disappointed to hear he lost. But, I see him coming back strong and having a great career ahead of him, he's still young as hell.
Phundamental has not only swallowed the bait, but exposed himself as an enraged white supremacist.
he didnt swallow shit. if i dont know a lot about either fighter, i too will vote for the white guy. a black guy will root for the black guy. sandy panties, you officially are on my shit list.
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I'm white and I was pulling for B-Hop
and i'm black and i was pulling for pavlik. the way he walked through miranda and taylor shows he is as good as they come. this was an off night against a good defensive fighter. he goes back to middleweight and rules for as long as he wishes
Pavlik is already a great fighter. Bernard can just show him a ton of tricks that will take him to a new level. Bernard is a classic Philly fighter who has been around and is still competing at the top of his game long after most fighters choose to give it up.
Wovito I understand your response and you're a sad person. You're another one of those people who calls "RACIST" on every little fucking thing. Why don't you just grow up and stop using that word all together. Racism is only fueled nowadays by the people who cry racism all the time.
Who cares? So he don't have "da riddum." Maybe he will teach it to him. Racism is best left a joke. Don't take these idiots seriously. The more whites(and blacks) take this shit seriously and do not laugh it off as just pure ignorance, the worse racism becomes.
9fight4 -Sandy Panties - LOL @ all the slow white dudes on this thread who are upset about being athletically inferior.
hahaha wow, ive never seen someone say something that dumb before. look at all the belts held by mma fighters and then rethink that. oh by the way how many black guys have won the words strongest man competitions? youre good at running....we get it, big deal.
LOL