Nick or Nate Could Be Wonderful

[Anek]

@Kirik_Jr

Nick Diaz is a .500 UFC fighter (in his prime) who isnt even in the top 50.

Fight matrix puts him at #18 all time at welterweight

[Nick_Diaz_Army]

Nah. Both Diaz bros hunt him down and bully him around the cage and out strike him. Win by decision. I like wonderboy but karate is just not it lol

[Nick_Diaz_Army]

18 there’s not 14 WW’s better than Nick all time. No way no how

[Nick_Diaz_Army]

If USADA wasn’t on BS Nick woulda been champ after GSP retired. So fucking gay. Fuck them and fuck Ronda rousey for showing Nick booze

[Nick_Diaz_Army]

Finished Paul daley in one round. Nobody in the UFC did that

[Anek]

@Kirik_Jr

They over value his wins in strikeforce against guys like marius and male cyborg.

How did they overvalue them?

[Nick_Diaz_Army]

He’s a hater don’t bother trying to have a rational discussion with him. Nick’s run through Strikeforce is a thing of legend

[Nick_Diaz_Army]

Nick Diaz's Run Through Strikeforce

[Nick_Diaz_Army]

Watch the video bro. Maybe you’ll learn a thing or two honestly lol

[Nick_Diaz_Army]

Strikeforce was full of killers and don’t underrate the Paul Daley finish. UFC fighters couldn’t finish him

[Nick_Diaz_Army]

I have a ufc brand punching bag in my basement

[Nick_Diaz_Army]

[Anek]

@Kirik_Jr

Because his strikeforce run is what gets him that high on the list. Otherwise he would be nowhere near that high.

The wins were overvalued because they put him high on the list? That only works if you just assume he’s not high on the list. Backwards logic.

[Nick_Diaz_Army]

He out struck a legend in Frank

He out struck a pro boxer in KJ Noons

He submitted a black belt in Santos

TKO’d a killer in Daley

[Anek]

@Kirik_Jr

Im saying the peopke who made the list gave those wins too much weight. If you disagree, please post why you think those were big wins.

It’s not people. FIghtmatrix uses an Elo-based rating system. You claimed that he’s not high on the list because those specific wins were over-valued, and when I asked why those wins were over-valued, your only answer is that they put him high on the list.

That’s called a circular argument

[Anek]

@Kirik_Jr

In my opinion, for most of that strikeforce run nick was fighting guys who werent even in the top 25-30.

In your personal rating system? Does it predict fights better than Elo or Glicko? I’ve used both and they work surprisingly well, but not better than the betting odds.

But when he was in ufc fighting higher level guys, he didnt even get close to a belt.

You mean because he didn’t come close to beating GSP? That’s a harsh standard.

[Chimonos_Revenge]

Hughes out bjj’d royce, do you Chalk that up as the same category you’re putting Nick in for beating a broken down Frank Shamrock?

[Floppy_Divac]

@anon61645596

Donno why any self respecting fighter would call out Nick or Nate.

A big payday for a win?

[Anek]

@Kirik_Jr

Then he came back later and got gifted a title shot even though he lost the fight before lol

So he did get close to a belt, but it was just business. Pretty common, which is why it’s not the best method for evaluating a fighter’s career.

@Kirik_Jr

Yes my fight prediction system is the greatest in the history of fight picking and no i wont give you any details so you can steal my system.

Without revealing the details of the system, who wins: Miyamoto Musashi or Leonidas?

[Anek]

@Kirik_Jr

His “close to a belt” was a 2 fight losing streak.

You’re counting the loss to GSP in this streak–which was for the belt–to say that he was never close to a belt?