Predict UFC 223 buys

Tug Dabone -

According to MMAFighting.com: Somewhere between 260 K and 350 K buys:

"The earliest preliminary indications on pay-per-view estimates are indicating it as the second largest this year, trailing UFC 220, which is estimated at 350,000 buys, but beating the Cyborg vs. Kunitskaya numbers, which were estimated between 210,000 and 260,000."

Not bad considering all the shit that happened at the end. 

Would have been huge if it was Tony vs Khabib.

Had this been Tony vs Khabib, it was going to bomb big time. I have no doubt it would have been in the 200’s, but a very generous number of close to 300k wouldn’t have shocked me.

When it got switched to Tony vs Max, a ton of positive feedback poured in on how that was a better match up and people now looking to order it. I didn’t expect that, but that’s what the feedback was. I could have seen that pulling 300k-350k. It really was well received.

But then the Conor incident happened and it made headlines across the world and news programs here in USA. When that happened, I expected the thing could do 700k buys. Everyone was talking about it and it looked like a huge buy rate should be expected.

Turns out it may have done in the mid 200’s, maybe the 3’s? I may have had this thing over estimated the whole time. Tony last did 115k in Vegas when he won the belt. Khabib doesn’t sell. Max doesn’t sell. This thing may have done 125k being generous had Conor not created the fiasco he did. Still what a complete failure it turned into.

Yikes!!

not good

SinCityHustler - Had this been Tony vs Khabib, it was going to bomb big time. I have no doubt it would have been in the 200's, but a very generous number of close to 300k wouldn't have shocked me.

When it got switched to Tony vs Max, a ton of positive feedback poured in on how that was a better match up and people now looking to order it. I didn’t expect that, but that’s what the feedback was. I could have seen that pulling 300k-350k. It really was well received.

But then the Conor incident happened and it made headlines across the world and news programs here in USA. When that happened, I expected the thing could do 700k buys. Everyone was talking about it and it looked like a huge buy rate should be expected.

Turns out it may have done in the mid 200’s, maybe the 3’s? I may have had this thing over estimated the whole time. Tony last did 115k in Vegas when he won the belt. Khabib doesn’t sell. Max doesn’t sell. This thing may have done 125k being generous had Conor not created the fiasco he did. Still what a complete failure it turned into.

Completely disagree and the analytics disagree with you also, but what do I know.

If it ain't Dutch, it ain't much -
Tug Dabone -

According to MMAFighting.com: Somewhere between 260 K and 350 K buys:

"The earliest preliminary indications on pay-per-view estimates are indicating it as the second largest this year, trailing UFC 220, which is estimated at 350,000 buys, but beating the Cyborg vs. Kunitskaya numbers, which were estimated between 210,000 and 260,000."

Not bad considering all the shit that happened at the end. 

Would have been huge if it was Tony vs Khabib.

No it wouldn’t 

SinCityHustler - Had this been Tony vs Khabib, it was going to bomb big time. I have no doubt it would have been in the 200's, but a very generous number of close to 300k wouldn't have shocked me.

When it got switched to Tony vs Max, a ton of positive feedback poured in on how that was a better match up and people now looking to order it. I didn’t expect that, but that’s what the feedback was. I could have seen that pulling 300k-350k. It really was well received.

But then the Conor incident happened and it made headlines across the world and news programs here in USA. When that happened, I expected the thing could do 700k buys. Everyone was talking about it and it looked like a huge buy rate should be expected.

Turns out it may have done in the mid 200’s, maybe the 3’s? I may have had this thing over estimated the whole time. Tony last did 115k in Vegas when he won the belt. Khabib doesn’t sell. Max doesn’t sell. This thing may have done 125k being generous had Conor not created the fiasco he did. Still what a complete failure it turned into.

Excellent post Sin.

If it ain't Dutch, it ain't much - 
SinCityHustler - Had this been Tony vs Khabib, it was going to bomb big time. I have no doubt it would have been in the 200's, but a very generous number of close to 300k wouldn't have shocked me.

When it got switched to Tony vs Max, a ton of positive feedback poured in on how that was a better match up and people now looking to order it. I didn’t expect that, but that’s what the feedback was. I could have seen that pulling 300k-350k. It really was well received.

But then the Conor incident happened and it made headlines across the world and news programs here in USA. When that happened, I expected the thing could do 700k buys. Everyone was talking about it and it looked like a huge buy rate should be expected.

Turns out it may have done in the mid 200’s, maybe the 3’s? I may have had this thing over estimated the whole time. Tony last did 115k in Vegas when he won the belt. Khabib doesn’t sell. Max doesn’t sell. This thing may have done 125k being generous had Conor not created the fiasco he did. Still what a complete failure it turned into.

Completely disagree and the analytics disagree with you also, but what do I know.

Analytics?

You were on here making screen name challenge bets on how this thing was going to explode. What happened, the added world wide news coverage suppressed the buys? Doesn’t it appear to have hit right in the range I said it would 2 weeks ago? I was being generous too, fully expecting the thing to do in the 200’s.

UFC PPV’s are easy to predict. Their ceiling without a block buster name is around 300k. Their floor is around 100k and.

Big events can expect up to 400k

monster events with huge names might do 600-700k

All the rest is bullshit. The event bombed big time and it almost certainly was going to disappoint with the first main event and even with the second. This is who UFC is. That’s the reality here.