It is no secret that homosexuality was accepted among the enlightened class in Rome, as the following quote from Wikipedia proves:
Roman men were free to enjoy sex with other males without a perceived loss of masculinity or social status, as long as they took the dominant or penetrative role. Acceptable male partners were slaves, prostitutes, and entertainers, whose lifestyle placed them in the nebulous social realm of infamia, excluded from the normal protections accorded a citizen even if they were technically free. Although Roman men in general seem to have preferred youths between the ages of 12 and 20 as sexual partners, freeborn male minors were strictly off-limits, and professional prostitutes and entertainers might be considerably older.
Members of the Praetorian Guard were the personal bodyguards of Roman emperors. Not surprisingly, this caused some snickering among the less-enlightened Plebeian class, the 209 of Rome, and the term soon became a derogatory gay slur.
At the height of the term's unfortunate popularity, famous Gladiator Nike Diazonysus was banned from Clash at the Colosseum XXIV and fined 100 Denarius for calling a fellow competitor a Praetorian.
Have to agree with Dana on this one.
oh god, everyone is so sensitive and accommodating to the minority population it's ridiculous
I understand that reaction, but if this sport has any hope of growing in the Mediterranean, Zuffa has to take these things seriously.
Sounds like the sponsor making waves was Oikos, a Greek company
If the UFC ever wants to have Roman Yogurt all over its broadcast, it has to be careful what stereotypes it endorses.
2JupitersTooMany -
It is no secret that homosexuality was accepted among the enlightened class in Rome, as the following quote from Wikipedia proves:
Roman men were free to enjoy sex with other males without a perceived loss of masculinity or social status, as long as they took the dominant or penetrative role. Acceptable male partners were slaves, prostitutes, and entertainers, whose lifestyle placed them in the nebulous social realm of infamia, excluded from the normal protections accorded a citizen even if they were technically free. Although Roman men in general seem to have preferred youths between the ages of 12 and 20 as sexual partners, freeborn male minors were strictly off-limits, and professional prostitutes and entertainers might be considerably older.
Members of the Praetorian Guard were the personal bodyguards of Roman emperors. Not surprisingly, this caused some snickering among the less-enlightened Plebeian class, the 209 of Rome, and the term soon became a derogatory gay slur.
At the height of the term's unfortunate popularity, famous Gladiator Nike Diazonysus was banned from Clash at the Colosseum XXIV and fined 100 Denarius for calling a fellow competitor a Praetorian.
Have to agree with Dana on this one.
Wikipedia proves nothing, please link me to the sources and ill head over to perseus and translate them and tell you if they are credible or not.
70% of most things ancient history on wikipedia are either a misconception stemming from an old mistranslation which has gained public notoriety; straight up incorrect; up for contention in academia without any proof either way that said piece of information is credible, or it has been invented by amateur historians who do not assess and translate the sources efficiently.
Anyone here ever wants the lowdown or help with anything ancient history related id be glad to help people out and point them to better resources than wikipedia.
sitchpack - 2JupitersTooMany -
It is no secret that homosexuality was accepted among the enlightened class in Rome, as the following quote from Wikipedia proves:
Roman men were free to enjoy sex with other males without a perceived loss of masculinity or social status, as long as they took the dominant or penetrative role. Acceptable male partners were slaves, prostitutes, and entertainers, whose lifestyle placed them in the nebulous social realm of infamia, excluded from the normal protections accorded a citizen even if they were technically free. Although Roman men in general seem to have preferred youths between the ages of 12 and 20 as sexual partners, freeborn male minors were strictly off-limits, and professional prostitutes and entertainers might be considerably older.
Members of the Praetorian Guard were the personal bodyguards of Roman emperors. Not surprisingly, this caused some snickering among the less-enlightened Plebeian class, the 209 of Rome, and the term soon became a derogatory gay slur.
At the height of the term's unfortunate popularity, famous Gladiator Nike Diazonysus was banned from Clash at the Colosseum XXIV and fined 100 Denarius for calling a fellow competitor a Praetorian.
Have to agree with Dana on this one.
Wikipedia proves nothing, please link me to the sources and ill head over to perseus and translate them and tell you if they are credible or not.
70% of most things ancient history on wikipedia are either a misconception stemming from an old mistranslation which has gained public notoriety; straight up incorrect; up for contention in academia without any proof either way that said piece of information is credible, or it has been invented by amateur historians who do not assess and translate the sources efficiently.
Anyone here ever wants the lowdown or help with anything ancient history related id be glad to help people out and point them to better resources than wikipedia.
No need to throw a Praetorian fit, no offense meant
ROFLMAO @ "Gladiator Nike Diazonysus was banned from Clash at the Colosseum XXIV and fined 100 Denarius"
Well done, it looks like most posters did not see what you did there :-P
2JupitersTooMany - sitchpack - 2JupitersTooMany -
It is no secret that homosexuality was accepted among the enlightened class in Rome, as the following quote from Wikipedia proves:
Roman men were free to enjoy sex with other males without a perceived loss of masculinity or social status, as long as they took the dominant or penetrative role. Acceptable male partners were slaves, prostitutes, and entertainers, whose lifestyle placed them in the nebulous social realm of infamia, excluded from the normal protections accorded a citizen even if they were technically free. Although Roman men in general seem to have preferred youths between the ages of 12 and 20 as sexual partners, freeborn male minors were strictly off-limits, and professional prostitutes and entertainers might be considerably older.
Members of the Praetorian Guard were the personal bodyguards of Roman emperors. Not surprisingly, this caused some snickering among the less-enlightened Plebeian class, the 209 of Rome, and the term soon became a derogatory gay slur.
At the height of the term's unfortunate popularity, famous Gladiator Nike Diazonysus was banned from Clash at the Colosseum XXIV and fined 100 Denarius for calling a fellow competitor a Praetorian.
Have to agree with Dana on this one.
Wikipedia proves nothing, please link me to the sources and ill head over to perseus and translate them and tell you if they are credible or not.
70% of most things ancient history on wikipedia are either a misconception stemming from an old mistranslation which has gained public notoriety; straight up incorrect; up for contention in academia without any proof either way that said piece of information is credible, or it has been invented by amateur historians who do not assess and translate the sources efficiently.
Anyone here ever wants the lowdown or help with anything ancient history related id be glad to help people out and point them to better resources than wikipedia.
No need to throw a Praetorian fit, no offense meant
I understand you are joking, just pointing out to anyone interested in history to not ever use wikipedia as a source.
Praetorian fit over bro.
As a student of history, you must have seen this coming months ago.
First they came for the tomohawk chop and I didn't speak because I wasn't in Atlanta at the time
I admit I wasn't really silent, like if I watched a game at home on television, I'd do that "oooooooooohhhh ooooohhhhweeee oooooohhhh" thing, but I did stop moving my arm back and forth to be fair
2JupitersTooMany -
As a student of history, you must have seen this coming months ago.
First they came for the tomohawk chop and I didn't speak because I wasn't in Atlanta at the time
I admit I wasn't really silent, like if I watched a game at home on television, I'd do that "oooooooooohhhh ooooohhhhweeee oooooohhhh" thing, but I did stop moving my arm back and forth to be fair
Yes I saw it with my third eye bro.