PRIME Rickson Gracie vs Cyborg Abreu vs Ricardo Li

Rickson would still submit all of them what is this prime nonesense. Phone Post

LOL.

Rickson had a hard time with the GREAT Takada who was a looser in MMA. Rickson has no striking or takedown skill.

So in my opinion he would be destroyed in MMA. Atleast against REAL fighters.

Rickson is a great BJJ guy, but didnt fight or grapple with the best of the 1990s. Mark Kerr, Igor Vochachin, Mario Sperry, Bustamante, Frank Shamrock and my personal FAVORITE Sakuraba.

You see Sakuraba destroyed all the active FIGHTING gracies in a organization called Pride. Ya and Rickson was offered the biggest $$$ in MMA to fight. He talked the shit, but didnt walk the walk. Even saying shit like "sak has no aura"

So 90% of REAL MMA fans either know Rickson is overrated and unproven in MMA. The other 10% either does not know who the fuck he is or the 5% who blindly worships him.

IMHO. Guys today like GSP, Hughes, Henderson, A.Silva etc.. would tool a PRIME RICKSON GRACIE in MMA. Notice I used guys in weight classes below his as example.

How does you post address the 5 way BJJ match? Phone Post

kbhat - 
Winston Wolf - 
anunaki - I am talking to you

"rickson wont even compete in adcc"

what kind of bullshit statement is that?

you're obviously a hater man.

Rickson faced the best grapplers of his day and submitted them all.

i been following the sport since 1993 when Rickson was in his young 30s In this time he did not face 1 top fighter in grappling or MMA while the sport begged him to compete He refused and instead of facing Sakaraba he fights Takada twice


Unlike many of his contemporaries (as global MMA/Vale Tudo went), he made smart business decisions and doesn't seem to post here about not getting his money after his fights from sponsors and promoters, etc.

If you have the choice to fight some can for a ton of money or someone pretty tough for less, what would you do?

Put it in the context of normal work. If you have 2 offers for employment, one where you'll be paid substantially more and have less work to do, or one where you'll be paid less than the other and do much more work, which would you choose?

I expect to never see you post on this topic again.

if i was the best in the world in something i would want ot face the best Money is over rated and Rickson already is super rich PLus Im sure hed get paid more to face Sakaraba than Tomato Takada.If it was me and I was considered the familly champ Id face the best Money or no money and besides Rickson is loaded he dont need the money

Not that this type of comparison matters, but here goes...

Rickson currently beats the ass off of Kron (submits him handily) and Kron recently lost to Marcello in a very tight match in OT by points then Rickson probably owns Marcello. Phone Post

Cookie Monster - Not that this type of comparison matters, but here goes...Rickson currently beats the ass off of Kron (submits him handily) and Kron recently lost to Marcello in a very tight match in OT by points then Rickson probably owns Marcello. Phone Post

practice is a far cry from a match

I thought the reason Rickson didn't fight Saku was due to his son's passing and after that he stopped training for a pretty long time.

The problem with "facts" about Rickson Gracie is that so many people have posted things without having a clue what they're talking about, and those things have later became "facts." For instance, how does this rocket scientest Winston Wolf know how much Rickson was "offered" to fight Sakuraba? I was always disappointed that Rickson didn't compete more, but the shit that people come up with as supposed "facts" on here is ridiculous.

ttt so the computer nerd from "Deadliest Warrior" can see this thread and simulate it.

*sets DVR

Rickson was passed his prime too Phone Post

Cockblock -  At the time of Takada 2, Sak was still making his name.  He hadn't even fought one Gracie by that time.  Sak/Rickson was supposed to happen in 2001, but Rockson's + needle= No fight followed by a divorce.

incorrect when Rockson died Saka already beat Royler,Renzo and Royce and was pretty much begged to face Sak but ignored that challenge by saying Sakaraba has no auro ( the irony )

also the Sak-Rickson fight never was anywhere near being made.Rickson by passed the challege like he did to Bas as well and instead faced Tomado Takada 2x and way passed his prime Funaki

the sport has begged him to compete since 1993 against someone worth a damn.That was when he was 33 ( is that young enough ) and not one time has he faced a top MMA fighter or entered ADCC Shame I think hed have done well But honestly i thihnk he didnt want to risk his undefeated record But to me a true champion competes against the best Honestly a true champ should seek out the best IMO But that is just my opinion I dont have 1/100th of the talent Rickson has.If I did I would want to compete against the very best and what I do best whether its MMA,grappling or checkers.