liquidrob - So bascially you didnt answer anything
Yeah, Joe Stevenson had a great resume at LW to be a top 10 guy, what were those wins again?
So it comes down to if you win a couple fights in the UFC you are in the top 10, got it
Its so frustrating to seeeveryone talk about "10er's" when guys with 02 join dates refuse to have a reasonable debate/conversation and instead result to UFC bashing. No one said anything about how great the UFC is, only responded to YOUR point about the rankings held by UFC fighters.
I for one think the UFC is the premier org for MMA out there, but at the same time acknowledge that other things exist, such as Fedor is better than most of their HW fighters.
Your logic is flawed in the sence that you are saying that Joe Stevenson/Kenny Florian/Jon Jones havent defeated the caliber of opponent to qualify them for top 10 rankings, but that Overeem need not beat top opponents to qualify him. This is the definition of hypocrisy..
But the OP is the one who specifically mentione them. By name he called out the viability of the rankings for Jones/Florian/Hardy based off their competitive accomplishments and quality of opposition. No one else jumped on the organizational bandwagon but the OP.
Wasn't Rogers ranked 6th by Sherdog after the Fedor fight? I think Carwin leapfrogged him post-Mir, but he was still well into the top 10 at the time Overeem beat him.
Link Deas - Wasn't Rogers ranked 6th by Sherdog after the Fedor fight? I think Carwin leapfrogged him post-Mir, but he was still well into the top 10 at the time Overeem beat him.
Which proves how ridiculous rankings are for MMA. Rogers claim to fame was the Arlovski k.o., and became an overnight top "10er" (get the pun), then remained ranked due to putting up a "strong showing" against Fedor, before being decapitated.
Then he becomes the ONLY justification for ranking Overeem. Now he is still hovering at 12th(fight matrix)even at 1-2 for his last with both losses ending with him being decombobulated, and his lone win against Rubin "19-19" Villareal.
If you wanna get real technical, Fightmatrix.com has 3 Strikeforce fighters ranked in the top 10 and...
Fedor- Did beat Arlovski and Sylvia but those were 2 years ago, so is the only person who is a viable top 10 contender with real wins on viable opponents.
Barnett- Best win in the last 3 years was a top 20ish Pedro Rizzo, and has had a steroid suspension.
Overeem-Best win was Brett Rogers, who should not have been considered a top 20, much less top 10.
menace667 - If you wanna get real technical, Fightmatrix.com has 3 Strikeforce fighters ranked in the top 10 and...
Fedor- Did beat Arlovski and Sylvia but those were 2 years ago, so is the only person who is a viable top 10 contender with real wins on viable opponents.
Barnett- Best win in the last 3 years was a top 20ish Pedro Rizzo, and has had a steroid suspension.
Overeem-Best win was Brett Rogers, who should not have been considered a top 20, much less top 10.
What 20 guys were so obviously better than Rogers?