I've been working on this ever since they showed it and its been working great. That said I have been watching comp vids and haven't seen it done at blackbelt level.
Is there something fundamentally wrong with this move?
I say mostly BS.
1. When you are in this position the guy on the bottom is a lot more active.
2. When you tuck your left leg in just before stepping over you have no base on that side, and will get rolled/swept
3. It's easy to elbow escape on the pass over
4. The bottom can grab your leg as it goes over
5. He shows the other problems...
They probably were just trying to find a new 'tech of the month' when they put this out. Not to say it's unworkable, but there are higher percentage moves. The foot post over the head to fig-4 looks OK.
I dont compete and Im not a blackbelt, but I do use this move and it is very effective. Really, like any other move, its how you set it up that matters, and how often you try it. The more you try it, the better you'll get at doing it. You cant just do a move once, have it not work, then give it up. You have to keep trying it. Practice it on beginners, then work your way up. I like to set it up by pushing their legs over and down to the ground, as if I was going to mount in a more traditional way, then surprise them. I think this move is also called "the cowboy mount"?????
It suprises the heck out of people, but honestly I only do it to guys who I'm better than.
WidespreadPanic - I say mostly BS.
1. When you are in this position the guy on the bottom is a lot more active.
2. When you tuck your left leg in just before stepping over you have no base on that side, and will get rolled/swept
3. It's easy to elbow escape on the pass over
4. The bottom can grab your leg as it goes over
5. He shows the other problems...
They probably were just trying to find a new 'tech of the month' when they put this out. Not to say it's unworkable, but there are higher percentage moves. The foot post over the head to fig-4 looks OK.
1. they address that (kimura/armlocks when opponent is actively extending the arms).
2. there is no "tuck the left leg"???
3. they address that (opposite leg tucked and lean w/grab)
4. they address that in the next vid (as alluded to)
All that said, I never do this.
What I see are ways to transition from control to a different control based on your opponents reactions. some of the moves are new(to me) and given me some ideas on pin control. thanks
I do it to guys better than me (purples). I have had great success with the whole series. You can't get rolled, if they grab the lag you back out or triangle or arm bar.
That said I have never seen this at black belt level.
looks solid to me.
never tried it though so i dont know.
those guys don't show bs.
Speed is key imo.
I'm betting the answer for next month is a triangle.
Drill it.
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BEEF & CHEESE - Speed is key imo.
I'm betting the answer for next month is a triangle.
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I see no problem with this series. It is taught very well here also. I use this against brown and black belts with good success.
Of course there are easy counters but under the pretenses Rener gives it is a solid series. Everything has a time and a timing.... remember this.
TCJ
My coach does this mount all the time, he is really good at it. I do it some times with limited success. Solid move IMO.
I tried this today just for fun. Couldn't get it to work, because my sparring partner kept shooting his arms up in the way. Which lead me to getting an armbar out of it. So I'm not sure if that counts as a failure. Instead of mount, I got an armbar. I was satisfied.
FreestyleJJ - I tried this today just for fun. Couldn't get it to work, because my sparring partner kept shooting his arms up in the way. Which lead me to getting an armbar out of it. So I'm not sure if that counts as a failure. Instead of mount, I got an armbar. I was satisfied.
Its predicated by the uke being defensive and tight. I had to do it for a month or so before I got it on a regular basis.
it shit ,just like everything out of gracie torrance.dont bother guys.just move along.
and you black belts that stop by and train in our combatives and sd classes ,dont tell anyone.we already have enough ppl in our classes
12 - it shit ,just like everything out of gracie torrance.dont bother guys.just move along.
and you black belts that stop by and train in our combatives and sd classes ,dont tell anyone.we already have enough ppl in our classes
lol, 12 I just want to understand why I haven't seen it at the higher levels. Like I said its working for me