To me it just looked like he got surprised by a punch as he was dropping for a leg. The slip on his high kick is not unusual.
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Hickson chief instructor came in twice to be jumped in. First time he went like 6mins and quit said he needed more training besides bjj.his name was Carlton or Carlson or Carl. He handed me a vhs tape when he was on the Johnny Carson show as a comedian it was legit. Came in 2 yrs later in tens seconds almost killed him if everybody wouldn’t have pulled me off I would of cuz I hit him with a overhand right that put him to sleep for awhile. And thats all I know
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Carlos Valente?
Ken had a very good leg scissor takedown and transition to leg submission.
IMO there are many cases later in his career when Ken was fighting scared.
And I don’t mean scared of his opponent.
Ken probably truly believed that if things went right, he could rip his opponent’s head off – no matter who it was.
But I think Ken became desperate for a win and wanted to avoid some mistake that would get him caught early.
His chin had deteriorated, which is normal – and I believe he was desperate for a win – for both financial and ego reasons.
IMO, this contributed to some of the spastic moments we saw later in his career.
Obviously, I’m not Ken. So I have no way of knowing for sure.
Just my observations.
Also, Ken pretty much always had kind of an anomolus career – and that is probably something that was an echo of his life choices.
A fighter’s career is not separate from his life.
Fans might only see the career – but for a fighter those life choices affect a career that is only one part of his life.
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And plus it depends on how much/consistently you’ve been training. If you’re taking months/years off you start losing it. If I take time off from BJJ, when I come back everything is off & cardio is trash, so guys that shouldn’t be beating me are whooping my butt.
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I’m still working on the Kimbo response…but I have to make dinner for the kids.
It’s something I have to be specific about…
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He was taught that way than I was taught that way so breaking guys at the dojo was my thing.it was years before I was trying to let me just stand and bang. He couldn’t train it brought no one into train it so that where we stalled. Cracked skull was a dust up between me and 8 to 10 gangbusters. I know nothing about the Yakuza
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The second time Ken fought Dan was the first fight of a man named Ken shamrock but not the same man from before. After that special came out the worlds most dangerous man. He had no reason to be a dominant fighter anymore he was famous. From then on he fought for fame and money. He did everything he could not to lose took no chances and happened to be a famous guy who also fought. He lost all control over his dark impluses, his wife and kids,house,cars,smoked enough Crack to kill a horse but in his head he was famous. That’s where his story should end but it drags over the gravel and rocks right til the bitter end. No mercy given from me.
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send me the transcript to your book 
i promise to read it and delete it, unshared
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Pretty sure Ken was trying hard to win vs Fujita and Frye.
IMO the Frye fight was a draw. Frye said as much himself.
I drank with Frye once, and he confirmed his post-fight comments.
Regardless…I’m not really disagreeing with you.
And definitely not trying to get into a fight by fight analysis.
I agree Ken was playing it way too safe in the second Severn fight.
Not like Severn was being aggressive either.
That should have been called a No Contest IMO.
Neither guy wanted to fight.
Sorry brother,that book and movie script had a 6 figure retainer on it. I have chose to keep it and let everything that happened to us stay with us. We have kids and grandkids and family and I decided nothing in this book is redeemable. No moral can be pulled from it. It is what happened before and during the UFC and Pancrase and the Lion’s Den and it will stay where it belongs. Far in the past where it can bring no more pain. Sorry,Scott
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There was a huge reason Ken fought Don. He said he would die in the ring if he had to. If you don’t know the reason than I don’t feel comfortable telling you. Fugati was for money Ken was broke
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I’m on the first 10 posts and this is already gold! Thanks in advance OP. I’m a slow reader but as soon as I get through this I have a couple questions
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So it was obviously a grudge match and some very real life that happened between them?
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Take your time I’m retired, lol. 
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Oh hell yeah. It was we are gonna fight
don’t care where pride or a field in the country but we’re fighting.
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It’s weird people don’t understand this, I fought just before 2010 and if you look on here my record is 0-1 after 3 years and like 15 fights lol
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Blame the promotor for not sending in the results.
i cant wait to not hear any more crazy stories
perhaps u would want to do someones podcast?
maybe chris lytles?
hes big on oldschool mma history
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