sparkuri -The Immortal One - sparkuri -The Immortal One - sparkuri -MM8 - The Lion King -If Jones decided to compete at heavyweight then he would be the best heavyweight ever and would beat any heavyweight ever.
But out of the fighters who have actually competed at heavyweight
1. Fedor - outstruck CroCop and Hunt. Outgrappled Nog and multiple Olympic judoka and wrestlers
2. Nog - Best jiu jitsu practitioner in HW history (outgrappled Werdum) along with amazing boxing, cardio, etc.
3. Crocop - World class kickboxer with impeccable TDD
4. Overeem - World class kickboxer with impeccable TDD
5. Werdum - 2nd best BJJ practitioner in HW history with high level striking. Dangerous everywhere
Honorable mention: Cain
Amazing boxing? lol wow
Name a better pure boxer at HW before Nog, or even after.
Ill name four: dc, cain, stipe, frank mir during mir's prime
Also Nog didn't get really dangerous on the feet until after 2005/2006 or after Pride when he was training regularly with Blackhouse and anderson silva
In pride, he was a good technical boxer but unfortunately didn't have takedown defense or the ability to KO guys on the feet just yet
HAHAHAHAHAHAHA.
NONE of the 4 you mentioned would even be mentioned in the same sentence from a technical orthodox aspect.
At least TRY yo earn your shill bucks.
You could’ve mentioned Kharitinov, except Nog beat him boxing.
Lol at you keep saying nog beat kharitonov in boxing. Stop embarrassing yourself
Sergei and nog had an mma fight where the boxing on the feet was VERY close because Sergei was worried about the takedown. Put them in a boxing match, no grappling and nog gets starched
Also Sergei had like 8 fights on his record when he fought a freaking former heavyweight champ in nog with a ton of more experience
You’re grasping for straws because you’re desperate to pump up fedors record to something that it is not
Your idiocy is amazing.
I didn’t "keep saying Nog beat Sergei standing"
I said it once, and he did.
And you’re discrediting Sergei now "because he only had 8 fights"
Cain has sloppy boxing.
If he wasn’t drinking hgh for his unmatched gastank he’d have half the wins he does. Head movement was notable, that’s it as far as boxing.
Stipe has decent boxing.
DC doesn’t, but doesn’t need it.
Mir was getting lit up by Nog.
Once you define a "prime" then you’re all over the map with excuses.
Ironically none are extended to Fedor.
Your anti-Fedor agenda is pathetic, and obvious.
All of these fighters and hundreds of others, including Silva, St.Pierre etc., and students of MMA as well as numerous publications have stated Fedor publicly as the most well-rounded HW mma fighter of all time.
Opinions vary and that’s fine, but discrediting every fighter on earth to taint another’s record leaves you with no one.
You might as well stop citing "The Underground" as a poor judge on the matter regarding Fedor.
The platform is the largest pro-UFC anti-everything else platform in the english language since the invention of the internet.
And unlike you I’d know, since I’ve been here since the invention of the internet.
Despite this, the majority of posters here can form comparably level-headed opinions without sounding like a Dana White mouthpiece because visually Fedor’s career is matter-of-fact.
"And you’re discrediting Sergei now "because he only had 8 fights""
Yep. So what? Big nog had 26 fights when he fought Sergei including fights against the very best. Sergei had 8 or 9 fights at the time. You don’t think that makes a huge difference? Big Nog had to rely on takedowns to beat Sergei. Sergei KOs any version of big nog in a straight up boxing match.
"Cain has sloppy boxing.
If he wasn’t drinking hgh for his unmatched gastank he’d have half the wins he does."
You’re accusing Cain of taking PEDs? Wtf is this based on? If you’re gonna make claims like that, then I say Fedor’s fights against Sonnen, Mir and probably several others were all fixed. How about that? At least I have some proof, you got nothing.
Mir finished Nog, the second time, Nog dropped mir because nog’s striking became more dangerous after he came to the UFC. That was my point all along. If Nog fought fedor in 2009, Nog drops fedor and finishes him with a sub guaranteed. You mad?
"All of these fighters and hundreds of others, including Silva, St.Pierre etc., and students of MMA as well as numerous publications have stated Fedor publicly as the most well-rounded HW mma fighter of all time."
Are they saying that now? It’s 2018 buddy. Fedor is partaking in fixed fights while GSP, Jones and Anderson are still fighting the very best.
I dont have a problem with Fedor, Im just calling out his fixed fights. I still consider him one of the best fighters to fight in history of course (best HW from 2003-2005/2006), but you can’t be the GOAT of MMA when you have fixed fights and when you lost key fights in your career while avoiding other big fights. You can’t handpick your opponents and be the GOAT. Don’t work like that buddy.
Keep hating the truth