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I think there are quite a few people who do not understand the difference in the wrestling skills of the top of the heap. Chael is one of, if not the best, wrestler in the UFC.
Getting taken down by him does not expose anybody. There is just a gap between D-1 wrestling champs and Olympic caliber wrestlers.
I agree with thforklift. Every fighter will have hard fights, no matter who they are. Brock, Randy, Chuck, Hughes, BJ Penn, Fedor, Big Nog, Barnett, Carwin, GSP, and every fighter in MMA have been, or will be, "exposed".
And that term, exposed, is one that should be stricken from the MMA vocabulary. The only thing exposed is that this is one tough ass sport, and it is impossible to dominate every fight. It just will not happen. So, stop expecting it to. Only the fans are exposed, and that is to the reality of this sport.
West Coast Nancy - he failed in japan
came over to the ufc in a weak division
got some opportunistic fights
people portrayed him as an invincible fighter
he got bored/underestimated opponents/division got more stacked
wants to retire before he faces anybody real
sonnen exposed him
okami and belfort are chomping at the bits for this easy title fight
You are a retard. Chael did nothing but expose himself as a cheater and lay n prayer that takes more damage from the top then he dishes out.
Anderson is a great fighter. Chael is a cheater.
stlnl2 -andaladamooment -keiths - something definately seems different. whats with the wild hooks he throws so often now? what happened to his snappy straight punches? just looks alot more sluggish.
weak division my ass. marquadt, franklin, henderson were all legit when he was wrecking everyone. forrest as well.
I'll tell you exactly what happened, and it's not a mystery or a conspiracy theory. Did you notice something different about the way the fight started? Usually Anderson likes to circle around his opponents for 2-3 minutes to get his range and timing down. Chael had a perfect game plan, he never allowed him to get his range and timing down. It's as simple as that. Once Anderson has you figured out, he'll pick you apart. You have to constantly mix it up, never giving him the chance to adapt.
I agree, I think folks are selling Sonnen short. He flat out refused to let Anderson dictate the fight to him, and fought him at all times, standing or on the mat.
Selling Sonnen short? That cheater is getting more credit for that fight than Anderson is and all he did was hold him down for four rounds.
I am starting to believe that a lot of yo uare racist and just wanted to see the white man win, whether it is by lay n pray, cheating, or whatever.
Newaza freak - Probably Because of his previous lackluster performances silva was forced ( because of the fan outcry) not to stick and move and instead engage in exchanges with sonnen from the very beginning. I think that silva can indeed run circles around sonnen and pick him apart with but unfortunately had to fight another strategy inorder to please the fans.
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West Coast Nancy - he failed in japan
came over to the ufc in a weak division
got some opportunistic fights
people portrayed him as an invincible fighter
he got bored/underestimated opponents/division got more stacked
wants to retire before he faces anybody real
sonnen exposed him
okami and belfort are chomping at the bits for this easy title fight
LOL! I suppose that Okami will beat him with his sick submission skill or maybe his KO power. Oh wait, he will either lay on top of Anderson until he gets subbed OR get KO'ed while he stands there and paws weakly at Anderson. Okami is a good fighter but he doesn't bring anything to the table to actually beat a top guy (except laying on them I guess). It is a lot tougher to LNP a guy for 5 rounds than it is for 3 as Saturday night showed.
If Belfort has any TD's he has a chance since he has some power to GNP.
I though Sonnen was great until the last 2 rounds when he started to slow down and just lay there and weakly slapped at Anderson. He should have been passing or going for a finish - something to put pressure on Anderson. I hope that BLAF kicks Sonnen in the nuts for the fake tap BS. That fake tapping shit is for faggots, seriously...
andaladamooment -keiths - something definately seems different. whats with the wild hooks he throws so often now? what happened to his snappy straight punches? just looks alot more sluggish.
weak division my ass. marquadt, franklin, henderson were all legit when he was wrecking everyone. forrest as well.
I'll tell you exactly what happened, and it's not a mystery or a conspiracy theory. Did you notice something different about the way the fight started? Usually Anderson likes to circle around his opponents for 2-3 minutes to get his range and timing down. Chael had a perfect game plan, he never allowed him to get his range and timing down. It's as simple as that. Once Anderson has you figured out, he'll pick you apart. You have to constantly mix it up, never giving him the chance to adapt.
Exactly. Anyone facing Silva needs to adopt that strategy.
futon1 - I think there are quite a few people who do not understand the difference in the wrestling skills of the top of the heap. Chael is one of, if not the best, wrestler in the UFC.
Getting taken down by him does not expose anybody. There is just a gap between D-1 wrestling champs and Olympic caliber wrestlers.
I agree with thforklift. Every fighter will have hard fights, no matter who they are. Brock, Randy, Chuck, Hughes, BJ Penn, Fedor, Big Nog, Barnett, Carwin, GSP, and every fighter in MMA have been, or will be, "exposed".
And that term, exposed, is one that should be stricken from the MMA vocabulary. The only thing exposed is that this is one tough ass sport, and it is impossible to dominate every fight. It just will not happen. So, stop expecting it to. Only the fans are exposed, and that is to the reality of this sport.
Thank you dude. Great post.
List of "exposed" fighters =
Brock Lesnar
Fedor
Werdum
Shane Carwin
Shogun
Machida
Gomi
Anderson
Wanderlei
Liddell
etc.
Looking at that list tells me it might be a good thing to be exposed.
brownchickenbrowncow -stlnl2 -andaladamooment -keiths - something definately seems different. whats with the wild hooks he throws so often now? what happened to his snappy straight punches? just looks alot more sluggish.
weak division my ass. marquadt, franklin, henderson were all legit when he was wrecking everyone. forrest as well.
I'll tell you exactly what happened, and it's not a mystery or a conspiracy theory. Did you notice something different about the way the fight started? Usually Anderson likes to circle around his opponents for 2-3 minutes to get his range and timing down. Chael had a perfect game plan, he never allowed him to get his range and timing down. It's as simple as that. Once Anderson has you figured out, he'll pick you apart. You have to constantly mix it up, never giving him the chance to adapt.
I agree, I think folks are selling Sonnen short. He flat out refused to let Anderson dictate the fight to him, and fought him at all times, standing or on the mat.
Selling Sonnen short? That cheater is getting more credit for that fight than Anderson is and all he did was hold him down for four rounds.
I am starting to believe that a lot of yo uare racist and just wanted to see the white man win, whether it is by lay n pray, cheating, or whatever.
I am starting to believe anyone who spouts racism at the drop of the hat has alot of serious deep seated issues.
Read the title of the thread, folks seem to assume it was more Anderson was very bad on Sat instead of saying Sonnen fought a great fight. A fight where he knocked Silva silly standing on one occassion, and knocked him on his ass another. I like Anderson better than Chael, but as I am not blinded by some strange Bias, I can freely say when a guy fought a great fight.
Just to be clear, I don't mean to say Silva fought badly or that Sonnen didn't do a massive effort.
But some things about Anderson are just strange, both in general and in this fight. The guy who is supposedly so worried about loosing that he ponders to pack his whole career up over it didn't even care to hold his hands up when Sonnen was bullrushing him? Everyone knows that anyone can hit hard enough for it to be a real problem if it connects, no matter who you are. And honestly, those punches that Sonnen did land could have ended the fight, we've seen a lot less impressive-looking punches drop guys left and right, good strikers too.
Maybe I'm overthinking things, time will tell. Props to both guys, it certainly was a crazy fight.
"Chael had a perfect game plan, he never allowed him to get his range and timing down. It's as simple as that. Once Anderson has you figured out, he'll pick you apart. You have to constantly mix it up, never giving him the chance to adapt"
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LOL@ Anderson being an easy fight for anyone at 185! I've been a Belfort fan from the beginning of his career but it would be another UFC Highlight clip with Vitor on the business end of an ass kicking if the fight went longer than a round and even within the round its not going to be easy for Belfort to deal with Anderson's speed / reach.
Anderson will probably lose before he retires, but fickle MMA fans kill me. I swear a fighter could go 10 years without losing and the second he did.............."Ahhh, he sucked the whole time."
futon1 - I think there are quite a few people who do not understand the difference in the wrestling skills of the top of the heap. Chael is one of, if not the best, wrestler in the UFC.
Getting taken down by him does not expose anybody. There is just a gap between D-1 wrestling champs and Olympic caliber wrestlers.
I agree with thforklift. Every fighter will have hard fights, no matter who they are. Brock, Randy, Chuck, Hughes, BJ Penn, Fedor, Big Nog, Barnett, Carwin, GSP, and every fighter in MMA have been, or will be, "exposed".
And that term, exposed, is one that should be stricken from the MMA vocabulary. The only thing exposed is that this is one tough ass sport, and it is impossible to dominate every fight. It just will not happen. So, stop expecting it to. Only the fans are exposed, and that is to the reality of this sport.
I have to agree w/ this. So sick of hearing how Fedor, Brock, Anderson, GSP, etc, etc, etc, are all overhyped and exposed as if there was some maagical better fighter who cannot be exposed.
androushka - Just to be clear, I don't mean to say Silva fought badly or that Sonnen didn't do a massive effort.
But some things about Anderson are just strange, both in general and in this fight. The guy who is supposedly so worried about loosing that he ponders to pack his whole career up over it didn't even care to hold his hands up when Sonnen was bullrushing him? Everyone knows that anyone can hit hard enough for it to be a real problem if it connects, no matter who you are. And honestly, those punches that Sonnen did land could have ended the fight, we've seen a lot less impressive-looking punches drop guys left and right, good strikers too.
Maybe I'm overthinking things, time will tell. Props to both guys, it certainly was a crazy fight.
He had injured ribs coming in to the fight.
You were right something is going on with him, I thought the same thing.
If by "exposed" people mean that he had a terrible fight, was losing badly and still found a way to submit his opponent, run his win streak to 12? and retain his world championship...........then yes he got exposed and every fighter in MMA wishes they could be exposed to those same things too I bet.
I'm not suggesting that Anderson goes 25 title defenses for nearly 12 years but I bet there were boxing fans that said that he got exposed against Billy Conn, Buddy Baer, Tony Galento etc when he won ugly against them and that the next guy he fought would beat him.
Maybe MMA isn't any different than boxing. I guess there are boxing fans out there that claim guys like Ali and Louis weren't any good at all.
Monsters Ball -androushka -Jons Forsberg -androushka - I thought health-issue of some kind, family or other personal situation
he has fought 13 times in the UFC in 4 years. I don't see how anyone with health issues of any kind would be that active and not lose. I'm Pretty sure he's the most active UFC champion.
He's loaded and he's 35 and he's undefeated in the org. People around him just want to see him cement his legacy retiring on top.
He could have been diagnosed with something that hasn't showed up much yet but that will in time/soon. I hope you're right though. There's just been a lot of strange things around Anderson latly.
Edited to add: and I don't want to take anything away from Sonnen, I can see how what he did just didn't left Anderson the space to do his thing, I'm not talking about just the Sonnen-fight though
The only thing different that I saw was that Anderson was dispirited. He didn't look the same coming out.
Correct. Because he was injured.
Monsters Ball - That's just an excuse. Everyone fights injured.
Explanation, imo, excuses are for people who lost
West Coast Nancy - he failed in japan
came over to the ufc in a weak division
got some opportunistic fights
people portrayed him as an invincible fighter
he got bored/underestimated opponents/division got more stacked
wants to retire before he faces anybody real
sonnen exposed him
okami and belfort are chomping at the bits for this easy title fight
See: "Sonnen fans = a new level of delusional butt-hurt"
http://www.mixedmartialarts.com/mma.cfm?go=forum_framed.posts&forum=1&thread=1684431&page=1&pc=75
A 13 win streak in the UFC with 11 finishes is now "opportunistic" in a "weak div."
New level indeed, keep em coming Chael guys.
Some of you are delusional.
So he steamrolls everyone he's faced. Let's his Brazilian brethren reach the light at the end of the tunnel for some nationalistic sense of honor, I'm guessing.
Hurts his ribs in practice, legit, and still pulls out a win against an extremely motivated fighter who had just beaten Okami AND Marquardt (another ELITE fighter who had already been destroyed by Silva in 1 ROUND!).