This is not a bag on Brandon thread actually
He essentially took nothing (fake belt) and turned it into something (big school in a competitive market and a dvd set that apparently is selling). He might not be the best grappler or even the middle of the road grappler but despite all that he attacked while the iron was hot and garnered a lot of interest on and off of this forum.
It's kind of amazing how well he amassed this "success" with his business knowing how other McDojos have sprouted up and been defamed in the past.
This whole deal will probably wreck his business but I hope somehow he can continue on teaching and training. The guy might be a dick and might have made a mistake (or many) but I wouldn't wish ill on someone that shares the same love for jiu-jitsu I do.
Good Luck Brandon,
Jason Turnage
Isn't the guy a solid 10th planet guy now? Why can't he maybe legitimize his belt under a more credible source now?(for gi I mean I think his no gi is pretty solid).
It sucks when you start training under someone who is fake...it happened to me years ago when i was training in Judo. It happens and yeah he probably should have been more forthcoming about it but what are you gonna do. I'm just wondering if he can't fix it now? Eddie is a legit Machado BB why can't he give him the purple or brown..whatever he is?
Umm...you are giving someone props for ripping people off and lying to them?
Rock n Raleigh Suicide - Umm...you are giving someone props for ripping people off and lying to them?
I'm giving props for him being able to pull it off and being able to follow a dream/idea. He had/has shrewd business tactics and they have apparently made him some money.
I didn't say it was right and I don't agree with it. Also I don't see how he ripped people off. Lying yes but not ripping people off, his No-Gi instruction is solid from what I have seen. Losing in a tourney I could care less about.
I got a laugh out of saying lying is a shrewd business tactic. you, sir, are correct.
I'm not trolling here with this though vegard don't mistake that. I believe that is a business tactic and while I don't agree with it you have to admit Brandon was doing better than a LOT of "legit" gyms money and popularity wise.
leglockfan -Rock n Raleigh Suicide - Umm...you are giving someone props for ripping people off and lying to them?
I'm giving props for him being able to pull it off and being able to follow a dream/idea.
LOL! Fantastic. Remember kids, its only lying, cheating and destructive behavior if you get caught.
Come on let's not get silly now. Exactly WHO did he ripoff. It isn't like he held up a bank or stole millions in insider trading. It is no different than some guy teaching Dim Mak to students only what Brandon was teaching actually works at least.
You all act like he is the first dishonest businessman.
I am starting to think some of the guys on here have a complete hard on for hating this guy and they have lost sight of why
Dim Mak from mount works, imo.
You heading down to max's this weekend, Turnage?
Nah I won't be making it this weekend unfortunately. I have prior commitments in the dirty city
and I need to train more Dim Mak from mount then :)
JiujitsuForeva - "it happened to me years ago when i was training in Judo. "
Where was this? Did he claim to be a BB? No names needed, of course.
Yeah this was in Ontario Canada. He was claiming Judo BB through USJI. I was a noob years ago and trained with him. Once I started training else where and I told them who i trained with they said that they had never heard him going beyond a green belt(as a junior).
and he would have got away with it too, if it wasn't for you meddling kids.
^^LOL
Hahahaha
eviladam - and he would have got away with it too, if it wasn't for you meddling kids.
Love the Scooby analogy.
i dont know about props,everyone should get a 2nd chance.
maybe not everyone,but brandon should.
He doesn't deserve props for anything at all IMO. All he proves is that anyone can bullshit a bunch of people if they really work at it.
He should've shared this info w/ Eddie upfront. Not after he already puts out tapes.... opens a school... and all that other crap.
I seriously doubt he can break down the details of guard passing or defending guard passing like a legit black belt can.
leglockfan - Come on let's not get silly now. Exactly WHO did he ripoff. It isn't like he held up a bank or stole millions in insider trading. It is no different than some guy teaching Dim Mak to students only what Brandon was teaching actually works at least.
You all act like he is the first dishonest businessman.
I am starting to think some of the guys on here have a complete hard on for hating this guy and they have lost sight of why
Wow you fail. Who did he ripoff??? How about countless uninformed or underinformed whitebelts who think his stuff is legit as opposed to mediocre?
"You all act like he is the first dishonest businessman. "
How can you say this with a straight face?? Are you telling me because someone else did it its ok? You cant be that ignorant. I hope youre trolling.
Hopefully you just admire his work ethic but dont know how to properly put it into words. If thats not the case, then you may be as much a fool as BQuick.
sounds like a raffiel torre
grilla - Plus, Brandon is a legit purple.. so it's just a matter of one belt level..
I must have missed this piece of info. So who gave bquick his purple again?