I've been using this position quite a bit lately, and was wondering if anybody knows any good instructional material on it. For those wondering what I'm talking about, here's one of very few examples I could find online:
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=TNTFnVD5Z1Q
Now, obviously this is a great position to submit an opponent from, either with an ankle lock or a calf lock, and the reverse heel hook is also available (though better from 50/50, IMO - not that I use it much). What I also find, however, is that this position can be used as a 'reverse' one-legged X-guard to isolate the knee and sweep a standing opponent, an option that comes in handy when the 'beijo do dragão' (inverting from reverse DLR to take the back) fails and the opponent turns into me. A lot of guys will lock up the 50/50 in this situation, but with the cross footlock I can avoid the perils of passing the 50/50 guard after sweeping, and the threat of the ankle lock will often give me a leg drag pass if I can't finish the sub.
What say ye, forumites? Can the cross footlock get some love? :)
For what is worth, I've seen Marcelo attacks people like that if he gets a half sweep from single x guard. He also tapped Batista recently on MGinaction from that position and that guy is a certified beast.
sub'd
i've always been interested in this counter to 50/50.
i remember vaguely roli delgado had a lot of success with the ankle lock from the position you're talking about, so if i wanted to start looking for material i'd start there. there was a thread he made way back about how he was fine
tuning it while training with guys from catch.
maybe if roli is feeling nice he can post a video to help us out : )
also maybe look up cavaca
At what point during your reverse dlr back take are you getting caught in 50/50? I covered how to prevent that with the Atos guys.
"http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=TNTFnVD5Z1Q"
Absolutely nothing I can see to keep the guy on bottom from coming immediately to top or side.
"At what point during your reverse dlr back take are you getting caught in 50/50"
Not getting caught in 50/50 per se, but guys are turning into me from the crab ride position before I can square up with both shins in the back of their knees. (I'm probably doing something wrong, but I've seen this happen to high level guys as well.) This is where a lot of guys seem to go to 50/50 willingly (Caio Terra covers this in his DVD set), whereas I go for the cross footlock instead, sweeping as I would from 1LXG, then attacking the leg or coming to the top.
@ John Frankl: Bill Cooper showed a nice sequence on Rolled Up where he fell back faking this footlock, then used a collar-tie as the opponent sat up to come on top to side control. I'm guessing that's what you're talking about?
Yup, Rafael Mendes showed me how to avoid that one, it's hard to do, but if done right, you end up in the leg drag/smash pass/sao paulo pass position.
I can't really explain it online. I'll try.
If your right foot is the hook, and you spin under and through, they square up and often sit on their ass. When they do this, you have to take your right leg and circle it over their legs and then drive the same knee, in between their knees as you get up. Finish the pass.
If they're standing and squaring up, I get up and single/double leg them. But I like wrestling.
not the straight ankle you're looking for but I thought it was a cool counter to 50/50
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=0fho3nmhPwY&feature=player_embedded
always looking for more footlock stuff
Muffinho - Yup, Rafael Mendes showed me how to avoid that one, it's hard to do, but if done right, you end up in the leg drag/smash pass/sao paulo pass position.
I can't really explain it online. I'll try.
If your right foot is the hook, and you spin under and through, they square up and often sit on their ass. When they do this, you have to take your right leg and circle it over their legs and then drive the same knee, in between their knees as you get up. Finish the pass.
That actually sounds a lot like what I'm doing with the cross footlock, minus the leg attack along the way. Sometimes I also just come up into the leg drag right away, using the footlock only as a sweep. The knee between theirs - the one that sort of defines the São Paulo passing style - is what makes the cross footlock so useful for taking top position and passing directly.
Shemhazai -Muffinho - Yup, Rafael Mendes showed me how to avoid that one, it's hard to do, but if done right, you end up in the leg drag/smash pass/sao paulo pass position.
I can't really explain it online. I'll try.
If your right foot is the hook, and you spin under and through, they square up and often sit on their ass. When they do this, you have to take your right leg and circle it over their legs and then drive the same knee, in between their knees as you get up. Finish the pass.
That actually sounds a lot like what I'm doing with the cross footlock, minus the leg attack along the way. Sometimes I also just come up into the leg drag right away, using the footlock only as a sweep. The knee between theirs - the one that sort of defines the São Paulo passing style - is what makes the cross footlock so useful for taking top position and passing directly.
Yea, I relooked at your link and you end up in basically the same position. I don't like the footlock from there. It's just preference.
I'm terrible at the "kiss of the dragon". I have a terrible habit of stopping once i've spun upside down, and I don't use my legs enough. I need to drill it more.
Here's Marcelo using the cross footlock to sweep a standing opponent:
http://www.mginaction.com/VideoDetails.aspx?VideoId=2611
John Frankl - "http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=TNTFnVD5Z1Q"
Absolutely nothing I can see to keep the guy on bottom from coming immediately to top or side.
The outside foot should be on the opponent's hip, with pressure to keep the opponent's hips back. This makes it difficult for him to come up into you.
You'll note that when you see Marcelo going for leglocks he places the foot correctly.
The person in the video would be likely to end up under side control or knee on belly fairly quickly if he performed it as shown against someone practiced in leglocks.
Used this tonight as a sweep to footlock to sweep combo, good stuff. 