My friend used to do krav maga. One time we were at his apartment and he was showing his "skills" to a chick, like a bang bro. He was doing that usual "Put your hands on my throat and I will show you how to escape" bullshit. After the the demonstration my friend turned his back and the girl fucking jumped on his back and took him on nice and tight rear naked choke and started screaming "WHAT THE FUCK ARE YOU GONNA DO NOW!!!!". He didnt want to tap to girl so hi collapsed on the floor after few seconds. When he woke up, it was the basic "What happened bro?" moment. I was laughing my ass off and told him that "You just got choked out by a little girl, fuck your krav maga". He stopped doing krav in a few months. :) 
In Krav you train with a compliant partner. The reaction is faked so you get a sense of what an attacker will do if you kick him in the nuts.
Hulagal - It is a mass marketed self defense concept that borrows techniques from real martial arts. It is not unique as there are many other systems out there that do the same thing. It has become one of the largest so called systems being marketed by mcdojos worldwide. Krav Maga is a beginner exercise class at best. I know more about Krav than most of it's students.Cool story bro
It's all marketing. If you google self-defense now it will Krav Maga will be every where. With the speed that information travels and the amount of suckers out there Krav's techniques will continue to get better. Right now there is a lot of very watered down information being taught by guys who have no live training experience.
They are doing an amazing job marketing this fighting system. People love to pretend fight with no rules. Instructors make sure to make people feel as "badass" without giving them any real skills. Those of us that have been in martial arts long enough have seen this happen many times in the past. Most these guys are fakes being taught by fakes. The tough instructors already had existing skill sets.
Instructors who didn't have existing skill sets are no different than all those old traditional martial arts instructors that we laugh at on youtube. Many times they are ex-military who use their military credentials to market their skills even though if it has nothing to do with teaching effective martial arts. Most of the highest ranked instructors just have a bunch of simple self-defense techniques memorized. Now Krav Maga Associations (pyramid schemes) are getting very organized with video curriculums and making it very easy for krav mcdojos to open up on every corner. Many instructors are on power trips and like to play drill sergeant and bark orders and to feel tough. In Israel everyone has to go in the military so ever Krav guru you meet is going to talk about their military experience. So many of these guys are starting their own affiliations and bring their friends from Israel to teach seminars, certifications and work shops. There is a big marketing push to market to executives for personal protection, workout place self-defense, corporate security, etc, etc.
Associations "certify" Krav instructors that just have a little experience in another martial art at a heavy price and them charge them a high monthly fee that includes the curriculum and marketing help. Monthly fees are usually $500+ a month and the certification will be over $1k. You get a cut if you send more instructors to get certified.
Some instructors of course already had real fighting backgrounds but find it is much easier to keep students by giving the false confidence and by them never really getting their ass kicked. If they never lose they always win. They won't quit something they are good at! Even these legit instructors & gym owners are getting certified in Krav Maga just to market to that self-defense niche. Most blue belts, decent high school wrestlers, or someone with one year real boxing experience would easily beat the vast majority of Krav Maga instructors who usually have very little live training experience.
It is amazing to me that in this day and age with youtube and the ability to see real street fights and MMA, BJJ, Judo, Wrestling, Boxing, Kickboxing, etc etc competitions that people will still fall for this. The problem if they have never trained they don't know how to really develop skills.
In Israel Krav Maga is still not taken seriously by most. If you know some well you will get the truth but for many Israelis with too much national pride though would be difficult for most to speak out against it and many are trying their best to support it.
Great marketing to people that do not know what real fighting looks like....
http://youtu.be/JOrHKlNPHR8
I can't believe that people STILL seriously argue whether krav is as good/better than any of the live arts. Sheesh.
Krav Maga is going to get some poor fools killed
Polar_beatdown - My friend used to do krav maga. One time we were at his apartment and he was showing his "skills" to a chick, like a bang bro. He was doing that usual "Put your hands on my throat and I will show you how to escape" bullshit. After the the demonstration my friend turned his back and the girl fucking jumped on his back and took him on nice and tight rear naked choke and started screaming "WHAT THE FUCK ARE YOU GONNA DO NOW!!!!". He didnt want to tap to girl so hi collapsed on the floor after few seconds. When he woke up, it was the basic "What happened bro?" moment. I was laughing my ass off and told him that "You just got choked out by a little girl, fuck your krav maga". He stopped doing krav in a few months. :)That sounds hilarious! VTFU
Why would someone care so much about an Israeli form of self defense?
Brabo Ben - Ive only been doing bjj for about 3 years now and i have friends who do this krav maga, they continually tell me that a real fight has no rules and that i am limited by the rules of my "sport", the funny thing is that they would never let anybody prove them wrong, any time i have asked them to put some gloves on they spew out some shit about it being too dangerous to perform on someone.
Whatever though as long as they are happy with it and it gives them self confidence, thats all that matters.
If you're just doing "sport jiu jitsu/ pajama wrestling w/ no striking or self defense involved...he's right.
Oh you're better off than he is with his krav maga...but if you're not dealing with strikes mixed in with your grappling he is correct.
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SKARHEAD -It was in respect to his abilities in krav maga, but i do striking, limited and nowhere near the level of striking for combat sports, the odd thai boxing session a week to be competent.Brabo Ben - Ive only been doing bjj for about 3 years now and i have friends who do this krav maga, they continually tell me that a real fight has no rules and that i am limited by the rules of my "sport", the funny thing is that they would never let anybody prove them wrong, any time i have asked them to put some gloves on they spew out some shit about it being too dangerous to perform on someone.
Whatever though as long as they are happy with it and it gives them self confidence, thats all that matters.
If you're just doing "sport jiu jitsu/ pajama wrestling w/ no striking or self defense involved...he's right.
Oh you're better off than he is with his krav maga...but if you're not dealing with strikes mixed in with your grappling he is correct.
I've been taking Krav Maga for six years now. Like anything else you train in, there's legit schools, instructors, and students...and there's the wannabes. I can tell you right now that if I put on some gloves and sparred someone trained in MMA...I'll get my ass handed to me. I know...because I've done it. KM is not designed for that. I'll never get into a "Street Fight" with anyone. If I ever needed to defend myself...I'd do what needed to be done to get myself out of a life threatening situation as quickly and effectively as possible. If you have doubts...find a legit school and try it out.
Polar_beatdown - My friend used to do krav maga. One time we were at his apartment and he was showing his "skills" to a chick, like a bang bro. He was doing that usual "Put your hands on my throat and I will show you how to escape" bullshit. After the the demonstration my friend turned his back and the girl fucking jumped on his back and took him on nice and tight rear naked choke and started screaming "WHAT THE FUCK ARE YOU GONNA DO NOW!!!!". He didnt want to tap to girl so hi collapsed on the floor after few seconds. When he woke up, it was the basic "What happened bro?" moment. I was laughing my ass off and told him that "You just got choked out by a little girl, fuck your krav maga". He stopped doing krav in a few months. :)If the RNC is sunk, you're pretty much toast. They only real defense is to tuck your chin before it gets sunk. You can try to go for eyes, groin etc...was the guy willing to do that to some chick?
onepunchcombo - I've been taking Krav Maga for six years now. Like anything else you train in, there's legit schools, instructors, and students...and there's the wannabes. I can tell you right now that if I put on some gloves and sparred someone trained in MMA...I'll get my ass handed to me. I know...because I've done it. KM is not designed for that. I'll never get into a "Street Fight" with anyone. If I ever needed to defend myself...I'd do what needed to be done to get myself out of a life threatening situation as quickly and effectively as possible. If you have doubts...find a legit school and try it out.
There are no "real" Krav Maga schools in the sense that they prepare you for real fighting. Israeli Special Forces are real but Krav Maga students are not Israeli Special Forces.
Authority Figure -Hulagal -Authority Figure -
It is a mass marketed self defense concept that borrows techniques from real martial arts. It is not unique as there are many other systems out there that do the same thing.<p> So basically, you're saying it's MMA. </p> </blockquote> <br /> Many MMA classes are watered down too. Jack of all trades and master of none. BUT there are two main differences. Most mma classes (even bad ones) are at least using proven techniques. The second is training methods. Most krav schools never really go live. The instructor and other students don't go 100% live with each other. I think most MMA classes would be better for self-defense than most Krav classes.<br /> <br /> Check out this video. THIS IS KRAV MAGA! Blue name?<br /> <br /> "REALITY" BASED vs MMA<br /> <br /> http://www.youtube.com/watch?feature=player_embedded&v=w3N7v4aK7JA</blockquote>
"REALITY" BASED vs MMA
This hilarious video describes Krav Maga perfectly.
onepunchcombo -Eyes and groin... When you make statements like these it is clear you havent put in the time and been RNC'd by an uncompliant partner. Good luck to you trying these deadly techniques... They sure didn't work for Seagal when old man Gene Lebell RNC'd him.Polar_beatdown - My friend used to do krav maga. One time we were at his apartment and he was showing his "skills" to a chick, like a bang bro. He was doing that usual "Put your hands on my throat and I will show you how to escape" bullshit. After the the demonstration my friend turned his back and the girl fucking jumped on his back and took him on nice and tight rear naked choke and started screaming "WHAT THE FUCK ARE YOU GONNA DO NOW!!!!". He didnt want to tap to girl so hi collapsed on the floor after few seconds. When he woke up, it was the basic "What happened bro?" moment. I was laughing my ass off and told him that "You just got choked out by a little girl, fuck your krav maga". He stopped doing krav in a few months. :)If the RNC is sunk, you're pretty much toast. They only real defense is to tuck your chin before it gets sunk. You can try to go for eyes, groin etc...was the guy willing to do that to some chick?
Authority Figure -.
It is a mass marketed self defense concept that borrows techniques from real martial arts. It is not unique as there are many other systems out there that do the same thing.
So basically, you're saying it's MMA.
love these threads.
FortyKoatz - love these threads.Yup.
What puzzles me the most is why they keep appearing on MMA forums... Especially since Krav was an art which fared extremely poorly back in early MMA, which had few if any (enforced) rules.
onepunchcombo -Polar_beatdown - My friend used to do krav maga. One time we were at his apartment and he was showing his "skills" to a chick, like a bang bro. He was doing that usual "Put your hands on my throat and I will show you how to escape" bullshit. After the the demonstration my friend turned his back and the girl fucking jumped on his back and took him on nice and tight rear naked choke and started screaming "WHAT THE FUCK ARE YOU GONNA DO NOW!!!!". He didnt want to tap to girl so hi collapsed on the floor after few seconds. When he woke up, it was the basic "What happened bro?" moment. I was laughing my ass off and told him that "You just got choked out by a little girl, fuck your krav maga". He stopped doing krav in a few months. :)If the RNC is sunk, you're pretty much toast. They only real defense is to tuck your chin before it gets sunk. You can try to go for eyes, groin etc...was the guy willing to do that to some chick?
And here is where u reveal your ignorance. Someone has you in a RNC you have no chance of eye gouging them, and attack the groin? Please. Your going to sleep homie.
Your only slim hope is to turn your head, put 2 hands on their top hand and peel it off. See fitch/ silva.
That is the difference between learning techniques that work and " oh if it was a real fight I'd just eye gouge them". Twit
burner22 -There's the Bas Rutten step around technique if they don't have their hooks in, I've done this when someone (jokingly) put on a RNC and it worked.onepunchcombo -Polar_beatdown - My friend used to do krav maga. One time we were at his apartment and he was showing his "skills" to a chick, like a bang bro. He was doing that usual "Put your hands on my throat and I will show you how to escape" bullshit. After the the demonstration my friend turned his back and the girl fucking jumped on his back and took him on nice and tight rear naked choke and started screaming "WHAT THE FUCK ARE YOU GONNA DO NOW!!!!". He didnt want to tap to girl so hi collapsed on the floor after few seconds. When he woke up, it was the basic "What happened bro?" moment. I was laughing my ass off and told him that "You just got choked out by a little girl, fuck your krav maga". He stopped doing krav in a few months. :)If the RNC is sunk, you're pretty much toast. They only real defense is to tuck your chin before it gets sunk. You can try to go for eyes, groin etc...was the guy willing to do that to some chick?And here is where u reveal your ignorance. Someone has you in a RNC you have no chance of eye gouging them, and attack the groin? Please. Your going to sleep homie.
Your only slim hope is to turn your head, put 2 hands on their top hand and peel it off. See fitch/ silva.
That is the difference between learning techniques that work and " oh if it was a real fight I'd just eye gouge them". Twit