Wasa-B - Where you do rank things like finishes and diversity of finishes or skills shown? I think they are secondary to the overall resume of competition beaten and title defense reigns. But certainly a finish makes wins emphatic. Diversity of skills goes to overall skills shown. I think this is lower on the list to actual quality and number of wins but i guess you cant talk about a GOAT without talking about skills.
I suppose beating someone at their own games is not for nothing. Like Jones has on numerous occasions.
Comeback wins are also show heart and will to win upon the edge of defeat. Anderson’s first fight against Chael is obviously a good one. Fedor didnt look so good in some bouts but always came back to win for a long time (AA, Hunt, Rogers).
GSP came back strong against injury fighting Diaz, Condit and Hendricks within a year of reconstructive knee surgery. That is fucking legendary. He also came back against the headkick against Condit.
IMO, dominance matters more than finishes. Especially when finishes come against weaker opposition.
Anderson finishing Dan Henderson is a huge deal. Anderson finishing Cote is less of a big deal and certainly not as impressive as GSP dominating Fitch or Fedor smashing Nog.
Jones’ first win over DC means more to his legacy than his finish of Rampage.
Yes, agreed. This is what I mean that overall resume (quality) of competition beaten esp in title defenses means the most.
I think the mistake that many people make is the deductive element - that so and so’s single win or achievement wasn’t as great for this or that reason. It has to be comparative to the other GOAT contenders in their overall resume. Kinda like how people weigh tds in a round. You cant judge a td on its own - its what the guy did without it in the overall context of the round to score the round. Who did more in the overall round? Thus who did more in their overall career?
Yes. It’s all holistic. Here’s whom I have at the top of certain criteria:
(1) Strength of schedule: GSP, Jones, Aldo
(2) Wins over all-time greats: GSP, Jones, Aldo, Fedor
(3) Reigns: Everyone on the list has great reigns. Fedor’s is most impressive, especially if you consider the weight
(4) The “eye test,” AKA “watch them fight”: Fedor, GSP, Anderson, Mighty Mouse
(5) Dominance: GSP, MM, Anderson
To me, going up a weight and finishes are bonuses. But, as I’ve mentioned, I don’t see what GSP did to Fitch as being less impressive then Anderson front kicking Vitor.