UFC 257: Dagestani wrestling vs. Folkstyle

The single most dominant base in mixed martial arts history is Folk wrestling. This is not surprising, as the effectiveness of wrestling in MMA comes from control, and Folk rules favor control even more so than does Greco or Free For example, a takedown in Folk requires control, and back exposure is not an immediate score allowing for more scrambles, Further, points are given for escaping an opponent’s control.

During a September appearance on the UFC Unfiltered podcast, former Div I All American Justin Gaethje argued that Folk wrestling key to beating lightweight champion Khabib Nurmagomedov.

“Folk wrestling doesn’t happen anywhere else other than the United States,” said Gaethje, who started wrestling at age 4, as transcribed by the amazing Farah Hannoun, for MMA Junkie. “I only wrestle folk I very rarely wrestle Free In Folk I think the biggest factor is, you’re allowed to expose your back without giving up points, which means you scramble. So whenever he goes to take me down, I’m going to be flipping and rolling in ways that he’s never felt in his life. That’s Folk wrestling, being able to expose your back.

“What he’s done his whole life, these guys could never expose their backs to get out of a takedown because they were giving up points. ... So you go straight to your stomach, and you give up a takedown. They also never have to get up. They just lay there for 15 seconds, then they stand them up automatically. In Folk wrestling, you get rewarded for getting up and escaping.”

“We will fight in the center of the Octagon. As much as he’s going to want to fight on the edge of the Octagon, we’re going to fight in the center. I’m going to throw massive shots, most of them are going to come right through the middle, and I’m going to take chances, throw knees, and if he takes me down that’s fine. You cannot hold me down. I will get up, and I will scramble in a different way than he’s ever known."

However, wrestling as it is practiced in Dagestan is subtly unique, and a significant part of the ongoing "Russian Invasion" in MMA. At Wednesday's UFC 254 pre-fight press conference, ahead of his fight vs. Gaethje, Nurmagomedov argued that Dagestani wrestling is going to be the key to victory.

“I think it’s a big difference,” said Khabib. “I know he knows how to wrestle. Worry about wrestling 25 minutes. I told DC today, ‘When you fight with Stipe Miocic last time, you grabbed his leg one time, and you take him down. He got up very quickly, and you’re finished.’ All other minutes standup. Between me and DC is a big difference.”

“If I’m going to try to take him down once and he defends, I’m going to go all night. I’m going to go all night. This is the big difference between U.S. wrestling and Dagestan wrestling. … They all good when they stand up, but when I grab them, it changes a little bit. I think more than Dustin and Conor and other guys, he know to wrestle. It’s going to be a little bit hard. I prepared myself to try to take him down 100 times. It’s going to be interesting Saturday night.”

https://youtu.be/Hg3ylSDllmQ?t=517

h/t  Nolan King and John Morgan for MMA Junkie

This would be accurate, IMO, if Justin were fighting the Khabib who fought Abel Trujilo and RDA. That Khabib was not great at riding.

Since then, he has learned from great American top players – most notably, Daniel Cormier – and incorporated excellent folk techniques into his game.

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Never knew this, that there was a difference in wrestling rules. They should make folk rules the international standard, it would make wrestling more interesting to us folks who never grew up wrestling.

AnotherTMAguy - 

Never knew this, that there was a difference in wrestling rules. They should make folk rules the international standard, it would make wrestling more interesting to us folks who never grew up wrestling.

It's complex politically. "Greco Roman" rules are based on wrestling from a French province.

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AnotherTMAguy - 

Never knew this, that there was a difference in wrestling rules. They should make folk rules the international standard, it would make wrestling more interesting to us folks who never grew up wrestling.

People around the world with no experience in folk would rightly protest. Wrestling is an international sport, not an American one.

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AnotherTMAguy - 

Never knew this, that there was a difference in wrestling rules. They should make folk rules the international standard, it would make wrestling more interesting to us folks who never grew up wrestling.

People around the world with no experience in folk would rightly protest. Wrestling is an international sport, not an American one.

True, i just think that someone who’s not actively wrestling to try and escape the bottom position makes for a boring spectacle to us laymen. 

Didnt read and not sure I will

Kirick  stop trying so hard to be a journalist and just get to the point of the title, fuck this site has went to shit over the years

Go ahead and ban ne again lol

Sambo vs Folkstyl e

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Sambo vs Folkstyl e

Khabib is a wrestler 

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It wasn’t the difference between Dagestani wrestling and folk Khabib hit doubles on Justin. It was just great wrestling against not as great wrestling.

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