In for later
This podcast does good shit. I just started checking them out and I am impressed. Gonna squirrel some of my time coming up….
In for later
This podcast does good shit. I just started checking them out and I am impressed. Gonna squirrel some of my time coming up….
Where Ya Been2 !
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tito on lyoto
. He was running the whole time. Last time I saw an MMA match, we fight. We bring it on in the fight; we don’t make it disinteresting for the fans. I’ve always been like that making a fight interesting for the fans. But he would run. I got over-extended, he dropped me, got a couple of punches and I pushed his arm through and triangle lock. Then he got out of it because I switched to an arm lock.
Believe me I kick myself every single day. No one is going to get out of my triangles ever again. I’ve been drilling them so much ever since this fight. It’s just one of those things where I can catch somebody in that position, they are not getting away. Machida got lucky, which is fine, he’s undefeated. But who wants to watch a boring fighter who runs away the whole time and doesn’t fight? It just shows where his career is going to be going.
Wow thanks for confirming this as it was a long time ago and easy to mix up the country.
Looked up the fights and that is the event where I met the guy. It was early in the evening before the fights started.
In the interview we talk about that
That also seemed to open the door for certain UFC employees to try to make some money on the UFC back without including the organization
A few people got fired over it
These are my show notes that I drew my questions from
Original UFC Team
Art Davie
Bob Meyrowitz
Campbell McLauren - head of programming
David Isaacs chief operating officer
Rorian Gracie
Graduated Harvard Law 2 years prior
MMA Start up
Pancrase Sep 21 1993
UFC Nov 12 1993
Pride Oct 11 1997
Nov 12 1993
UFC 1
Leon Spinks & Bonecrusher Smith were picks prior to Art Jimerson
Gerard Gordeau kicked a tooth out of the mouth of Telia Tuli that flew past the Golds Gym sponsor
Did the UFC try to get Ernesto Hoost for UFC 1 but could not afford him so they got GG?
UFC 1 to UFC 2
8 man tournament to 16 man tournament
March 11 1994
UFC 2
Ran out of ambulances
Sep 9 1994
UFC 3
Ken Shamrock pulled out after Royce Vs Howard
Harold Howard Vs Royce Gracie
Rickson tried to get $1M for fighting
when refused he no longer cornered or trained Royce
David Isaacs did NOT allow props being brought to the ring in order to avoid a pro wrestling confusion
Joe Son had a wooden box shipped to the arena and claimed that it was special Work out equipment; inside was the giant wooden cross that Kimo carried to the cage
Kimo - Chris Brennan story
Kimo letter to he Gracie’s apologizing for celebrating after Royce threw in towel against Harold Howard
Keith hackney Vs Emmanuel Yarborough
Dec 16 1994
UFC 4
-was originally supposed to be held in Japan?
April 7 1995
UFC 5
July 14 1995
UFC 6 Tank Abbott and crew beat up Patrick Smith in an elevator
Tank Abbott Vs Oleg Taktarov
Did Anthony Macias take a dive against Oleg Taktarov
Sep 8 1995
UFC 7
Marco Ruas
Dec 16 1995
Ultimate Ultimate
$150k winner
Feb 16 1996
UFC 8 in audience fight with Allan Goes
after party fight involving tank Abbott
JOHN MCCAIN
Mar 30 1996
“Ultimate warriors”
Buddy Albin - Russia show
At the Ultimate Ultimate 2
When Scott Ferrozo grabbed interviewer Bruce Beck and roughed him up a little
Feb 7 1997
UFC 12 move from New York to Alabama
Logistics
political pressure
Perretti - Battlecade NY pressure - later
Coleman beats Severn at UFC 12 they mention
May 30 1997
UFC 13 after party fight with Tank Abbott Mark Coleman vs Brazil
Jul 27 1997
UFC 14 from the Republic of Kazakhstan Poolat Mergaliev
First event that made gloves mandatory
Oct 17 1997
UFC 15
John Perretti becomes match maker
Dec 21 1997
UFC Japan
Conan Silveira fought Sakuraba 2x’s
Mar 19 1998
Art Davie wrote a letter to Bob Meyrowitz asking him to stop promoting UFC and sided with John McCain
SEG sold to ZUFFA in 2000
2016 June
Campbell McLauren raised $2.6B trying to buy UFC
Iron Ring - Zilo Entertainment
Fighting without a Comission present
Zilo Entertainment
Almost had Wesley Snipes Vs Joe Rogan
SEG invested money into a David Hasselhof concert and it aired at the exact same time that OJ went on his low speed chase
Vince McMahon purchase fell through
Thoughts on $4B sale of ufc
Kevin Randleman used to call Paula Romero (Bob Meyrowitz assistant) and yell at her about getting more fights
DI married UFC employee Monica
Wow thanks
I meant to listen but have been on phone calls
Those notes topics look great
Truly just stopped taking a break sipping a bottle of water outside Houma LA
About to start driving again
Will listen
Quick view of notes topics seem like a lot of new / unknown
very interesting that art davie went to k-1 after ufc fired him, and he then tried to kill the ufc
The fight after Pat Smoth seems more like a demo than anything else
I am shocked at how large that crowd is
Throwing random luggage out of the plane onto the tarmac at 5 to midnight to get under take off weight limit and out of the airport before it closes. Crazy.
That part really stood out to me too.
We are trying to do only UFC 1 people on October
We got Art Jimmerson, Zane Frazier so far
Shamrock records tomorrow
What we are uncovering
There seemed to be someone from the Gracie camp specifically assigned to follow each fighter ; following them to workouts and taping then.
Let’s just say… we got a few names that are going to surprise people
Interesting in the interview David I’s answer was a Whitney Houston concert was the topic for Kazakhstan.
The fella from Kazakhstan I chatted with said the reason for the visit to the show was to bring the UFC to Kazakhstan.
Couple of notes about that same show:
I recall seeing Jacare Cavalcanti and his crew there, waiting outside like everyone else for the doors to open. I recathis because I arrived at the place with a guy from Japan that was a early days big NHB and Japanese combat sports fan. I took to the time to explain to the guy from Japan about Jacare’s background etc.
Frank Shamrock— I don’t know about him good bad or otherwise but can say without a doubt that night he was really cool and made the guy from Japan’s year. The kid saw Frank and started fan boy talk like “he is my hero, wow Frank Shamrock”. I went over motioned to Frank and told him the guy was a big fan of his from Japan. Asked if he could say hi or grab a photo.
Frank jumped over the barrier fence talked to the guy, asked me if camera was ready. Did some cool stuff like picked the guy up for a picture. Took a few photos.
For years that classmate from Japan sent me a nice thank you letter about every year.
I just happened to go dig up one of the photos he sent of him and Frank from that night.
We are trying to make every October release UFC 1 related
We got a solid line up so far
Great episode! Just finished this one late but glad I checked it out
I was not really aware of David Isaacs role in the beginnings of the UFC and feel like the other maybe louder personalities in the early days over shadowed it or that maybe he didn’t want the spotlight or attention as much as they did.
Also it was eye opening hearing about Art Davie and him/UFC having such a contentious relationship and that he was let go as a result of some of it. Starting or helping another organization overseas secretly while being employed by the UFC and then even working against them after he left by trying to align with John McCain was disappointing to hear. But it’s all part of the story.
That’s where we have to draw the line
I am super pro Art Davie, but we also can’t influence or edit the past; no matter how much it might hurt someone’s feelings.
What I try to do is not push back when things like this come up in conversation.
Art played his cards wrong…
The way he positioned himself as compared to everyone else, kept a lot of money from his pockets.
We have Charle Anzalone recording soon
I thought the podcast was objective and respectful with it. It’s tough to hear sometimes but if it’s what happened then it is what it is and that’s what we are here for.
I’m looking forward to hearing Campbell McClaren and Rorion episodes someday to add even more insight to things we might not be aware of yet.
And fingers crossed for a John Milius episode lol
I thought Milius had a stroke, can he speak well enough now?
Good angle though, maybe somebody can speak for him or about him and his early day contributions?