UFC is on fire right now. Great cards

andrewwarner -
caposa -
andrewwarner - I hope you're kidding. First round finishes and mismatches don't make great cards. Phone Post
Arantas/Carvalho, Alcantara/Omigawa, and Stout/Tavares were mismatches? Get the fuck out of here.
 

I didn't get to watch those fights. Neither did 90 percent of the mma watching public. Phone Post

You sound like a ten year old kid who can't have his own way Phone Post

andrewwarner - 
UGCTT_DontToewsMeBro!! - The last several cards have been incredible. I doubted this card I can't lie, but I watched it from fx prelims to Aldo awesomeness. Great stuff tonight Dana. <img src="/images/phone/apple.png" alt="Phone Post" border="0" style="vertical-align:middle;"/>
I hope you're kidding. First round finishes and mismatches don't make great cards. <img src="/images/phone/apple.png" alt="Phone Post" border="0" style="vertical-align:middle;"/>


Man I totally agree! I'd also like to add that good fights and exciting finishes don't make great cards.

KimboByGhettoplex -
andrewwarner - 
KimboByGhettoplex -
andrewwarner - 
mma shill -
andrewwarner -
UGCTT_DontToewsMeBro!! - The last several cards have been incredible. I doubted this card I can't lie, but I watched it from fx prelims to Aldo awesomeness. Great stuff tonight Dana. <img src="/images/phone/apple.png" alt="Phone Post" border="0" style="vertical-align:middle;"/>
I hope you're kidding. First round finishes and mismatches don't make great cards. <img src="/images/phone/apple.png" alt="Phone Post" border="0" style="vertical-align:middle;"/>
Holy shit some of you will complain about anything lol why the fuck do you post here if you don't enjoy the sport? Dana hates the UG because of dumbasses like you <img src="/images/phone/apple.png" alt="Phone Post" border="0" style="vertical-align:middle;"/>
Why would you say I don't like mma just because I said mismatches are uninteresting?<br><br>You really think palhares and massenzio was destined to be an interesting fight? What about silva and Carlo prater (who?)? <img src="/images/phone/apple.png" alt="Phone Post" border="0" style="vertical-align:middle;"/>

The fact that you don't know who Carlo Prater is shows that you don't even watch Strikeforce. GTFO & go play UFC poker.
God you're annoying. I've watched every strikeforce card for the last two years. <br><br>Trying to attack me for questioning Carlo prater's legacy is annoying. <img src="/images/phone/apple.png" alt="Phone Post" border="0" style="vertical-align:middle;"/>

You don't watch shit

You don't watch know shit

You shouldn't be posting in this thread

You shouldn't be a member of this forum

How the fuck can someone question the legitimacy of a contest when 1) he doesn't even know who one of the competitors is, and 2) he has only seen 40 seconds of the second competitor.

Go away please

It's easy to do so when the results clearly show that one man was grossly overmatched. Along with 4/5 of the rest of the card.

If you thought it was going to be a competitive fight, that means you don't know shit because it clearly wasn't.

So did you think it was going to be competitive? If so, why were you do wrong?

Why do you have the logic skills of an 8 year old? Phone Post

mikemalc -
andrewwarner -
caposa -
andrewwarner - I hope you're kidding. First round finishes and mismatches don't make great cards. Phone Post
Arantas/Carvalho, Alcantara/Omigawa, and Stout/Tavares were mismatches? Get the fuck out of here.
 

I didn't get to watch those fights. Neither did 90 percent of the mma watching public. Phone Post

You sound like a ten year old kid who can't have his own way Phone Post

Why? Because I dont have fx?

Why does everyone on here think they are so smart?

Are you all just that stupid that seeing guys annihilated in on round seems like good competition? Phone Post

andrewwarner - 
UGCTT_DontToewsMeBro!! - The last several cards have been incredible. I doubted this card I can't lie, but I watched it from fx prelims to Aldo awesomeness. Great stuff tonight Dana. Phone Post
I hope you're kidding. First round finishes and mismatches don't make great cards. Phone Post


 Jesus loser....go sit in the corner and resume cutting yourself....

not sure why you guys are feeding the troll. If he doesn't like these matchups, let him go fucking cry like usual. simple as that.

heavyweightmma - not sure why you guys are feeding the troll. If he doesn't like these matchups, let him go fucking cry like usual. simple as that.

Is this crazy town or something?

Why does calling a series of first round slaughters mismatches make me a troll? Phone Post

andrewwarner - 
heavyweightmma - not sure why you guys are feeding the troll. If he doesn't like these matchups, let him go fucking cry like usual. simple as that.
Is this crazy town or something?<br><br>Why does calling a series of first round slaughters mismatches make me a troll? <img src="/images/phone/apple.png" alt="Phone Post" border="0" style="vertical-align:middle;"/>


Was Johnson vs. belfort a mismatch? was Aldo vs. mendes a mismatch? was erick Silva vs Carlo Prater a mismatch? I mean c'mon carlo prater has fought in the WEC, MFC, even legacy Fighting Championships which has some definite tough competition. he's beaten guys like Condit and Fisher. Stout vs Tavares was no doubt not a mismatch.

andrewwarner - 

Why? Because I dont have fx?



They showed almost all of the fights during the PPV - a bunch after the main event.



Get the fuck out off this forum.  We don't need morons like you -

heavyweightmma -
andrewwarner - 
heavyweightmma - not sure why you guys are feeding the troll. If he doesn't like these matchups, let him go fucking cry like usual. simple as that.
Is this crazy town or something?<br><br>Why does calling a series of first round slaughters mismatches make me a troll? <img src="/images/phone/apple.png" alt="Phone Post" border="0" style="vertical-align:middle;"/>


Was Johnson vs. belfort a mismatch? was Aldo vs. mendes a mismatch? was erick Silva vs Carlo Prater a mismatch? I mean c'mon carlo prater has fought in the WEC, MFC, even legacy Fighting Championships which has some definite tough competition. he's beaten guys like Condit and Fisher. Stout vs Tavares was no doubt not a mismatch.

Carlo Prater had some promising wins 9-10 years ago. Condit pwned him in more recent times. He's also lost to a bunch of sub-par competition in more recent times. Phone Post

Stu Cazzo -
andrewwarner - 
Why? Because I dont have fx?

They showed almost all of the fights during the PPV - a bunch after the main event.

Get the fuck out off this forum.  We don't need morons like you -

Dude. I'm not talking about the undercard. I wasn't then and I'm not now. Phone Post

andrewwarner - 
KimboByGhettoplex -
andrewwarner - 
KimboByGhettoplex -
andrewwarner - 
mma shill -
andrewwarner -
UGCTT_DontToewsMeBro!! - The last several cards have been incredible. I doubted this card I can't lie, but I watched it from fx prelims to Aldo awesomeness. Great stuff tonight Dana. <img src="/images/phone/apple.png" alt="Phone Post" border="0" style="vertical-align:middle;"/>
I hope you're kidding. First round finishes and mismatches don't make great cards. <img src="/images/phone/apple.png" alt="Phone Post" border="0" style="vertical-align:middle;"/>
Holy shit some of you will complain about anything lol why the fuck do you post here if you don't enjoy the sport? Dana hates the UG because of dumbasses like you <img src="/images/phone/apple.png" alt="Phone Post" border="0" style="vertical-align:middle;"/>
Why would you say I don't like mma just because I said mismatches are uninteresting?<br><br>You really think palhares and massenzio was destined to be an interesting fight? What about silva and Carlo prater (who?)? <img src="/images/phone/apple.png" alt="Phone Post" border="0" style="vertical-align:middle;"/>

The fact that you don't know who Carlo Prater is shows that you don't even watch Strikeforce. GTFO & go play UFC poker.
God you're annoying. I've watched every strikeforce card for the last two years. <br><br>Trying to attack me for questioning Carlo prater's legacy is annoying. <img src="/images/phone/apple.png" alt="Phone Post" border="0" style="vertical-align:middle;"/>

You don't watch shit

You don't watch know shit

You shouldn't be posting in this thread

You shouldn't be a member of this forum

How the fuck can someone question the legitimacy of a contest when 1) he doesn't even know who one of the competitors is, and 2) he has only seen 40 seconds of the second competitor.

Go away please
It's easy to do so when the results clearly show that one man was grossly overmatched. Along with 4/5 of the rest of the card. <br><br>If you thought it was going to be a competitive fight, that means you don't know shit because it clearly wasn't. <br><br>So did you think it was going to be competitive? If so, why were you do wrong?<br><br>Why do you have the logic skills of an 8 year old? <img src="/images/phone/apple.png" alt="Phone Post" border="0" style="vertical-align:middle;"/>

First educate yourself on what logic actually is and then after you've done that, please refer back to your posts in this thread to understand the importance of its application.

This is real simple. You're saying Prater-Silva was a mismatch, right? And that the PPV wasn't worth ordering/watching/taking seriously etc. from the very beginning BECAUSE of this and other mismatches, right? And that somehow YOU knew it was a mismatch going in even though one opponent's UFC career lasted 40 seconds over one fight and the other guy wasn't anyone you had even heard of or cared to look up. Uh, see what's wrong here? You're a goddamned idiot.

The results of that fight do not prove it was a mismatch any more than the Korean Zombie proved Mark Hominick doesn't belong in the same ring with him (which is obviously not the case), and there are tons of other examples. If you actually understood FUCK ALL about MMA you would know that it's the dominant work-over type performances that display one competitor's extreme superiority over the other, not a few seconds of action where one guy gets caught and the fight is over. GSP proved he was on another level in the trilogy fight with Hughes; Nick Diaz proved he was on another level against BJ Penn; BJ himself proved he was on another level against Florian, etc. For all anyone knows, Prater and Silva could fight tomorrow and it could go 15 minutes. All Silva showed was that he is powerful, reckless, and dangerous. He didn't show enough to provide the type of info that you need to properly analyze a fight, at least not in the UFC. And I highly, highly doubt you were streaming Jungle Fight shows or anything of that nature because fans who are that committed don't come here and spout the kind of retarded bullshit you do. Besides, if you were that committed you'd probably know who Prater is in the first place, wouldn't you?

The thing is, and I'm just trying to be nice and point this out here, is that you are a total fuckstick. All that fight was was an unproven prospect vs. a polished veteran to see where both guys stand in the divisional rankings, i.e. it is exactly the type of fight you always see, and exactly the type of fight you NEED TO HAVE. And it certainly was NOT a mismatch -- why? -- because the outcome isn't known beforehand. See how that works? Fights don't happen on paper, not all prospects turn out, not all veterans follow downward career paths. Genius you are, really.

So yeah, go back to that logic stuff you were talking about earlier, find out what it means, and then come back here to see why everyone thinks you're retarded & know the humbling feeling to sheer stupidity.

KimboByGhettoplex - 
andrewwarner - 
KimboByGhettoplex -
andrewwarner - 
KimboByGhettoplex -
andrewwarner - 
mma shill -
andrewwarner -
UGCTT_DontToewsMeBro!! - The last several cards have been incredible. I doubted this card I can't lie, but I watched it from fx prelims to Aldo awesomeness. Great stuff tonight Dana. <img src="/images/phone/apple.png" alt="Phone Post" border="0" style="vertical-align:middle;"/>
I hope you're kidding. First round finishes and mismatches don't make great cards. <img src="/images/phone/apple.png" alt="Phone Post" border="0" style="vertical-align:middle;"/>
Holy shit some of you will complain about anything lol why the fuck do you post here if you don't enjoy the sport? Dana hates the UG because of dumbasses like you <img src="/images/phone/apple.png" alt="Phone Post" border="0" style="vertical-align:middle;"/>
Why would you say I don't like mma just because I said mismatches are uninteresting?<br><br>You really think palhares and massenzio was destined to be an interesting fight? What about silva and Carlo prater (who?)? <img src="/images/phone/apple.png" alt="Phone Post" border="0" style="vertical-align:middle;"/>

The fact that you don't know who Carlo Prater is shows that you don't even watch Strikeforce. GTFO & go play UFC poker.
God you're annoying. I've watched every strikeforce card for the last two years. <br><br>Trying to attack me for questioning Carlo prater's legacy is annoying. <img src="/images/phone/apple.png" alt="Phone Post" border="0" style="vertical-align:middle;"/>

You don't watch shit

You don't watch know shit

You shouldn't be posting in this thread

You shouldn't be a member of this forum

How the fuck can someone question the legitimacy of a contest when 1) he doesn't even know who one of the competitors is, and 2) he has only seen 40 seconds of the second competitor.

Go away please
It's easy to do so when the results clearly show that one man was grossly overmatched. Along with 4/5 of the rest of the card. <br><br>If you thought it was going to be a competitive fight, that means you don't know shit because it clearly wasn't. <br><br>So did you think it was going to be competitive? If so, why were you do wrong?<br><br>Why do you have the logic skills of an 8 year old? <img src="/images/phone/apple.png" alt="Phone Post" border="0" style="vertical-align:middle;"/>

First educate yourself on what logic actually is and then after you've done that, please refer back to your posts in this thread to understand the importance of its application.

This is real simple. You're saying Prater-Silva was a mismatch, right? And that the PPV wasn't worth ordering/watching/taking seriously etc. from the very beginning BECAUSE of this and other mismatches, right? And that somehow YOU knew it was a mismatch going in even though one opponent's UFC career lasted 40 seconds over one fight and the other guy wasn't anyone you had even heard of or cared to look up. Uh, see what's wrong here? You're a goddamned idiot.

The results of that fight do not prove it was a mismatch any more than the Korean Zombie proved Mark Hominick doesn't belong in the same ring with him (which is obviously not the case), and there are tons of other examples. If you actually understood FUCK ALL about MMA you would know that it's the dominant work-over type performances that display one competitor's extreme superiority over the other, not a few seconds of action where one guy gets caught and the fight is over. GSP proved he was on another level in the trilogy fight with Hughes; Nick Diaz proved he was on another level against BJ Penn; BJ himself proved he was on another level against Florian, etc. For all anyone knows, Prater and Silva could fight tomorrow and it could go 15 minutes. All Silva showed was that he is powerful, reckless, and dangerous. He didn't show enough to provide the type of info that you need to properly analyze a fight, at least not in the UFC. And I highly, highly doubt you were streaming Jungle Fight shows or anything of that nature because fans who are that committed don't come here and spout the kind of retarded bullshit you do. Besides, if you were that committed you'd probably know who Prater is in the first place, wouldn't you?

The thing is, and I'm just trying to be nice and point this out here, is that you are a total fuckstick. All that fight was was an unproven prospect vs. a polished veteran to see where both guys stand in the divisional rankings, i.e. it is exactly the type of fight you always see, and exactly the type of fight you NEED TO HAVE. And it certainly was NOT a mismatch -- why? -- because the outcome isn't known beforehand. See how that works? Fights don't happen on paper, not all prospects turn out, not all veterans follow downward career paths. Genius you are, really.

So yeah, go back to that logic stuff you were talking about earlier, find out what it means, and then come back here to see why everyone thinks you're retarded & know the humbling feeling to sheer stupidity.


My original point was that the fights were not Particularly entertaining because they proved to be gross mismatches.

I later said that the UFC gives favorable hometown matches to brazilians at cards in brazil.

The silva fight was an athlete on another level versus a journeyman fighter who at this point in his career is not built for the UFC

. You make a decent point about not predicting the outcome, but that wasn't really my point.

Like the lesnar / overeem fight, I didn't necessarily know who was going to win, but as Brock stated after the fact, overeem was a far superior fighter to him. The result was a first round finish where one guy looked completely out of his depth.

My opinion was that cards like that are not entertaining. I still feel that way. I did not think this or the last UFC was particular entertaining because the result, however we would have picked it, was guys looking completely outclassed in the first round.

I also agree that fights like penn and Diaz establish who is a superior fighter - those fights I find way more enjoyable.

As you stated with the silva fight, those Guys could fight tomorrow and the result could be completely different. Perhaps. This is exactly why it was an unfulfilling card.

Either nothing was learned about any fighter (as you assert) or it was a complete mismatch. Neither one of these are an optimal result.

And yet no one has told me why it makes a good card to watch a young kid get lucky (again, as you assert with your claims of his recklessness). Instead you just call me names and accuse me of not streaming enough fights.

You are a complete Douche.

andrewwarner - 
KimboByGhettoplex - 
andrewwarner - 
KimboByGhettoplex -
andrewwarner - 
KimboByGhettoplex -
andrewwarner - 
mma shill -
andrewwarner -
UGCTT_DontToewsMeBro!! - The last several cards have been incredible. I doubted this card I can't lie, but I watched it from fx prelims to Aldo awesomeness. Great stuff tonight Dana. <img src="/images/phone/apple.png" alt="Phone Post" border="0" style="vertical-align:middle;"/>
I hope you're kidding. First round finishes and mismatches don't make great cards. <img src="/images/phone/apple.png" alt="Phone Post" border="0" style="vertical-align:middle;"/>
Holy shit some of you will complain about anything lol why the fuck do you post here if you don't enjoy the sport? Dana hates the UG because of dumbasses like you <img src="/images/phone/apple.png" alt="Phone Post" border="0" style="vertical-align:middle;"/>
Why would you say I don't like mma just because I said mismatches are uninteresting?<br><br>You really think palhares and massenzio was destined to be an interesting fight? What about silva and Carlo prater (who?)? <img src="/images/phone/apple.png" alt="Phone Post" border="0" style="vertical-align:middle;"/>

The fact that you don't know who Carlo Prater is shows that you don't even watch Strikeforce. GTFO & go play UFC poker.
God you're annoying. I've watched every strikeforce card for the last two years. <br><br>Trying to attack me for questioning Carlo prater's legacy is annoying. <img src="/images/phone/apple.png" alt="Phone Post" border="0" style="vertical-align:middle;"/>

You don't watch shit

You don't watch know shit

You shouldn't be posting in this thread

You shouldn't be a member of this forum

How the fuck can someone question the legitimacy of a contest when 1) he doesn't even know who one of the competitors is, and 2) he has only seen 40 seconds of the second competitor.

Go away please
It's easy to do so when the results clearly show that one man was grossly overmatched. Along with 4/5 of the rest of the card. <br><br>If you thought it was going to be a competitive fight, that means you don't know shit because it clearly wasn't. <br><br>So did you think it was going to be competitive? If so, why were you do wrong?<br><br>Why do you have the logic skills of an 8 year old? <img src="/images/phone/apple.png" alt="Phone Post" border="0" style="vertical-align:middle;"/>

First educate yourself on what logic actually is and then after you've done that, please refer back to your posts in this thread to understand the importance of its application.

This is real simple. You're saying Prater-Silva was a mismatch, right? And that the PPV wasn't worth ordering/watching/taking seriously etc. from the very beginning BECAUSE of this and other mismatches, right? And that somehow YOU knew it was a mismatch going in even though one opponent's UFC career lasted 40 seconds over one fight and the other guy wasn't anyone you had even heard of or cared to look up. Uh, see what's wrong here? You're a goddamned idiot.

The results of that fight do not prove it was a mismatch any more than the Korean Zombie proved Mark Hominick doesn't belong in the same ring with him (which is obviously not the case), and there are tons of other examples. If you actually understood FUCK ALL about MMA you would know that it's the dominant work-over type performances that display one competitor's extreme superiority over the other, not a few seconds of action where one guy gets caught and the fight is over. GSP proved he was on another level in the trilogy fight with Hughes; Nick Diaz proved he was on another level against BJ Penn; BJ himself proved he was on another level against Florian, etc. For all anyone knows, Prater and Silva could fight tomorrow and it could go 15 minutes. All Silva showed was that he is powerful, reckless, and dangerous. He didn't show enough to provide the type of info that you need to properly analyze a fight, at least not in the UFC. And I highly, highly doubt you were streaming Jungle Fight shows or anything of that nature because fans who are that committed don't come here and spout the kind of retarded bullshit you do. Besides, if you were that committed you'd probably know who Prater is in the first place, wouldn't you?

The thing is, and I'm just trying to be nice and point this out here, is that you are a total fuckstick. All that fight was was an unproven prospect vs. a polished veteran to see where both guys stand in the divisional rankings, i.e. it is exactly the type of fight you always see, and exactly the type of fight you NEED TO HAVE. And it certainly was NOT a mismatch -- why? -- because the outcome isn't known beforehand. See how that works? Fights don't happen on paper, not all prospects turn out, not all veterans follow downward career paths. Genius you are, really.

So yeah, go back to that logic stuff you were talking about earlier, find out what it means, and then come back here to see why everyone thinks you're retarded & know the humbling feeling to sheer stupidity.


My original point was that the fights were not Particularly entertaining because they proved to be gross mismatches.

I later said that the UFC gives favorable hometown matches to brazilians at cards in brazil.

The silva fight was an athlete on another level versus a journeyman fighter who at this point in his career is not built for the UFC

. You make a decent point about not predicting the outcome, but that wasn't really my point.

Like the lesnar / overeem fight, I didn't necessarily know who was going to win, but as Brock stated after the fact, overeem was a far superior fighter to him. The result was a first round finish where one guy looked completely out of his depth.

My opinion was that cards like that are not entertaining. I still feel that way. I did not think this or the last UFC was particular entertaining because the result, however we would have picked it, was guys looking completely outclassed in the first round.

I also agree that fights like penn and Diaz establish who is a superior fighter - those fights I find way more enjoyable.

As you stated with the silva fight, those Guys could fight tomorrow and the result could be completely different. Perhaps. This is exactly why it was an unfulfilling card.

Either nothing was learned about any fighter (as you assert) or it was a complete mismatch. Neither one of these are an optimal result.

And yet no one has told me why it makes a good card to watch a young kid get lucky (again, as you assert with your claims of his recklessness). Instead you just call me names and accuse me of not streaming enough fights.

You are a complete Douche.




You keep changing your mind on what you believe you are talking about. Not sure if you're confused?

heavyweightmma -
andrewwarner - 
KimboByGhettoplex - 
andrewwarner - 
KimboByGhettoplex -
andrewwarner - 
KimboByGhettoplex -
andrewwarner - 
mma shill -
andrewwarner -
UGCTT_DontToewsMeBro!! - The last several cards have been incredible. I doubted this card I can't lie, but I watched it from fx prelims to Aldo awesomeness. Great stuff tonight Dana. <img src="/images/phone/apple.png" alt="Phone Post" border="0" style="vertical-align:middle;"/>
I hope you're kidding. First round finishes and mismatches don't make great cards. <img src="/images/phone/apple.png" alt="Phone Post" border="0" style="vertical-align:middle;"/>
Holy shit some of you will complain about anything lol why the fuck do you post here if you don't enjoy the sport? Dana hates the UG because of dumbasses like you <img src="/images/phone/apple.png" alt="Phone Post" border="0" style="vertical-align:middle;"/>
Why would you say I don't like mma just because I said mismatches are uninteresting?<br><br>You really think palhares and massenzio was destined to be an interesting fight? What about silva and Carlo prater (who?)? <img src="/images/phone/apple.png" alt="Phone Post" border="0" style="vertical-align:middle;"/>

The fact that you don't know who Carlo Prater is shows that you don't even watch Strikeforce. GTFO & go play UFC poker.
God you're annoying. I've watched every strikeforce card for the last two years. <br><br>Trying to attack me for questioning Carlo prater's legacy is annoying. <img src="/images/phone/apple.png" alt="Phone Post" border="0" style="vertical-align:middle;"/>

You don't watch shit

You don't watch know shit

You shouldn't be posting in this thread

You shouldn't be a member of this forum

How the fuck can someone question the legitimacy of a contest when 1) he doesn't even know who one of the competitors is, and 2) he has only seen 40 seconds of the second competitor.

Go away please
It's easy to do so when the results clearly show that one man was grossly overmatched. Along with 4/5 of the rest of the card. <br><br>If you thought it was going to be a competitive fight, that means you don't know shit because it clearly wasn't. <br><br>So did you think it was going to be competitive? If so, why were you do wrong?<br><br>Why do you have the logic skills of an 8 year old? <img src="/images/phone/apple.png" alt="Phone Post" border="0" style="vertical-align:middle;"/>

First educate yourself on what logic actually is and then after you've done that, please refer back to your posts in this thread to understand the importance of its application.

This is real simple. You're saying Prater-Silva was a mismatch, right? And that the PPV wasn't worth ordering/watching/taking seriously etc. from the very beginning BECAUSE of this and other mismatches, right? And that somehow YOU knew it was a mismatch going in even though one opponent's UFC career lasted 40 seconds over one fight and the other guy wasn't anyone you had even heard of or cared to look up. Uh, see what's wrong here? You're a goddamned idiot.

The results of that fight do not prove it was a mismatch any more than the Korean Zombie proved Mark Hominick doesn't belong in the same ring with him (which is obviously not the case), and there are tons of other examples. If you actually understood FUCK ALL about MMA you would know that it's the dominant work-over type performances that display one competitor's extreme superiority over the other, not a few seconds of action where one guy gets caught and the fight is over. GSP proved he was on another level in the trilogy fight with Hughes; Nick Diaz proved he was on another level against BJ Penn; BJ himself proved he was on another level against Florian, etc. For all anyone knows, Prater and Silva could fight tomorrow and it could go 15 minutes. All Silva showed was that he is powerful, reckless, and dangerous. He didn't show enough to provide the type of info that you need to properly analyze a fight, at least not in the UFC. And I highly, highly doubt you were streaming Jungle Fight shows or anything of that nature because fans who are that committed don't come here and spout the kind of retarded bullshit you do. Besides, if you were that committed you'd probably know who Prater is in the first place, wouldn't you?

The thing is, and I'm just trying to be nice and point this out here, is that you are a total fuckstick. All that fight was was an unproven prospect vs. a polished veteran to see where both guys stand in the divisional rankings, i.e. it is exactly the type of fight you always see, and exactly the type of fight you NEED TO HAVE. And it certainly was NOT a mismatch -- why? -- because the outcome isn't known beforehand. See how that works? Fights don't happen on paper, not all prospects turn out, not all veterans follow downward career paths. Genius you are, really.

So yeah, go back to that logic stuff you were talking about earlier, find out what it means, and then come back here to see why everyone thinks you're retarded & know the humbling feeling to sheer stupidity.


My original point was that the fights were not Particularly entertaining because they proved to be gross mismatches.

I later said that the UFC gives favorable hometown matches to brazilians at cards in brazil.

The silva fight was an athlete on another level versus a journeyman fighter who at this point in his career is not built for the UFC

. You make a decent point about not predicting the outcome, but that wasn't really my point.

Like the lesnar / overeem fight, I didn't necessarily know who was going to win, but as Brock stated after the fact, overeem was a far superior fighter to him. The result was a first round finish where one guy looked completely out of his depth.

My opinion was that cards like that are not entertaining. I still feel that way. I did not think this or the last UFC was particular entertaining because the result, however we would have picked it, was guys looking completely outclassed in the first round.

I also agree that fights like penn and Diaz establish who is a superior fighter - those fights I find way more enjoyable.

As you stated with the silva fight, those Guys could fight tomorrow and the result could be completely different. Perhaps. This is exactly why it was an unfulfilling card.

Either nothing was learned about any fighter (as you assert) or it was a complete mismatch. Neither one of these are an optimal result.

And yet no one has told me why it makes a good card to watch a young kid get lucky (again, as you assert with your claims of his recklessness). Instead you just call me names and accuse me of not streaming enough fights.

You are a complete Douche.




You keep changing your mind on what you believe you are talking about. Not sure if you're confused?

Pretty clear above. Phone Post

soliak - 
andrewwarner - 
KimboByGhettoplex - 
andrewwarner - 
KimboByGhettoplex -
andrewwarner - 
KimboByGhettoplex -
andrewwarner - 
mma shill -
andrewwarner -
UGCTT_DontToewsMeBro!! - The last several cards have been incredible. I doubted this card I can't lie, but I watched it from fx prelims to Aldo awesomeness. Great stuff tonight Dana. <img src="/images/phone/apple.png" alt="Phone Post" border="0" style="vertical-align:middle;"/>
I hope you're kidding. First round finishes and mismatches don't make great cards. <img src="/images/phone/apple.png" alt="Phone Post" border="0" style="vertical-align:middle;"/>
Holy shit some of you will complain about anything lol why the fuck do you post here if you don't enjoy the sport? Dana hates the UG because of dumbasses like you <img src="/images/phone/apple.png" alt="Phone Post" border="0" style="vertical-align:middle;"/>
Why would you say I don't like mma just because I said mismatches are uninteresting?<br><br>You really think palhares and massenzio was destined to be an interesting fight? What about silva and Carlo prater (who?)? <img src="/images/phone/apple.png" alt="Phone Post" border="0" style="vertical-align:middle;"/>

The fact that you don't know who Carlo Prater is shows that you don't even watch Strikeforce. GTFO & go play UFC poker.
God you're annoying. I've watched every strikeforce card for the last two years. <br><br>Trying to attack me for questioning Carlo prater's legacy is annoying. <img src="/images/phone/apple.png" alt="Phone Post" border="0" style="vertical-align:middle;"/>

You don't watch shit

You don't watch know shit

You shouldn't be posting in this thread

You shouldn't be a member of this forum

How the fuck can someone question the legitimacy of a contest when 1) he doesn't even know who one of the competitors is, and 2) he has only seen 40 seconds of the second competitor.

Go away please
It's easy to do so when the results clearly show that one man was grossly overmatched. Along with 4/5 of the rest of the card. <br><br>If you thought it was going to be a competitive fight, that means you don't know shit because it clearly wasn't. <br><br>So did you think it was going to be competitive? If so, why were you do wrong?<br><br>Why do you have the logic skills of an 8 year old? <img src="/images/phone/apple.png" alt="Phone Post" border="0" style="vertical-align:middle;"/>

First educate yourself on what logic actually is and then after you've done that, please refer back to your posts in this thread to understand the importance of its application.

This is real simple. You're saying Prater-Silva was a mismatch, right? And that the PPV wasn't worth ordering/watching/taking seriously etc. from the very beginning BECAUSE of this and other mismatches, right? And that somehow YOU knew it was a mismatch going in even though one opponent's UFC career lasted 40 seconds over one fight and the other guy wasn't anyone you had even heard of or cared to look up. Uh, see what's wrong here? You're a goddamned idiot.

The results of that fight do not prove it was a mismatch any more than the Korean Zombie proved Mark Hominick doesn't belong in the same ring with him (which is obviously not the case), and there are tons of other examples. If you actually understood FUCK ALL about MMA you would know that it's the dominant work-over type performances that display one competitor's extreme superiority over the other, not a few seconds of action where one guy gets caught and the fight is over. GSP proved he was on another level in the trilogy fight with Hughes; Nick Diaz proved he was on another level against BJ Penn; BJ himself proved he was on another level against Florian, etc. For all anyone knows, Prater and Silva could fight tomorrow and it could go 15 minutes. All Silva showed was that he is powerful, reckless, and dangerous. He didn't show enough to provide the type of info that you need to properly analyze a fight, at least not in the UFC. And I highly, highly doubt you were streaming Jungle Fight shows or anything of that nature because fans who are that committed don't come here and spout the kind of retarded bullshit you do. Besides, if you were that committed you'd probably know who Prater is in the first place, wouldn't you?

The thing is, and I'm just trying to be nice and point this out here, is that you are a total fuckstick. All that fight was was an unproven prospect vs. a polished veteran to see where both guys stand in the divisional rankings, i.e. it is exactly the type of fight you always see, and exactly the type of fight you NEED TO HAVE. And it certainly was NOT a mismatch -- why? -- because the outcome isn't known beforehand. See how that works? Fights don't happen on paper, not all prospects turn out, not all veterans follow downward career paths. Genius you are, really.

So yeah, go back to that logic stuff you were talking about earlier, find out what it means, and then come back here to see why everyone thinks you're retarded & know the humbling feeling to sheer stupidity.


My original point was that the fights were not Particularly entertaining because they proved to be gross mismatches.

I later said that the UFC gives favorable hometown matches to brazilians at cards in brazil.

The silva fight was an athlete on another level versus a journeyman fighter who at this point in his career is not built for the UFC

. You make a decent point about not predicting the outcome, but that wasn't really my point.

Like the lesnar / overeem fight, I didn't necessarily know who was going to win, but as Brock stated after the fact, overeem was a far superior fighter to him. The result was a first round finish where one guy looked completely out of his depth.

My opinion was that cards like that are not entertaining. I still feel that way. I did not think this or the last UFC was particular entertaining because the result, however we would have picked it, was guys looking completely outclassed in the first round.

I also agree that fights like penn and Diaz establish who is a superior fighter - those fights I find way more enjoyable.

As you stated with the silva fight, those Guys could fight tomorrow and the result could be completely different. Perhaps. This is exactly why it was an unfulfilling card.

Either nothing was learned about any fighter (as you assert) or it was a complete mismatch. Neither one of these are an optimal result.

And yet no one has told me why it makes a good card to watch a young kid get lucky (again, as you assert with your claims of his recklessness). Instead you just call me names and accuse me of not streaming enough fights.

You are a complete Douche.

Is this you? 

<a href="http://community.bjpenn.com/profile/AndrewWarner57"&gt;http://community.bjpenn.com/profile/AndrewWarner57&lt;/a&gt; 

You look like a faggot.
 



That's me.

Don't call people faggot. It's disrespectful to gay people.

Holy fucking massive quotes. My iTouch is almost dying trying to view this train wreck of a thread. Phone Post

mrmetoo - Who the fuck doesn't have have fx? <br><br><br>PS. Stop with the quotes <img src="/images/phone/droid.png" alt="Phone Post" border="0" style="vertical-align:middle;"/>


I don't have cable. I always go somewhere to watch the fights. Or now I can watch the UFCs at least on Xbox Live.

andrewwarner -
UGCTT_DontToewsMeBro!! - The last several cards have been incredible. I doubted this card I can't lie, but I watched it from fx prelims to Aldo awesomeness. Great stuff tonight Dana. Phone Post

I hope you're kidding. First round finishes and mismatches don't make great cards. Phone Post

Your a fucking retard. Phone Post

Look you seem like a good guy, so I'll respect your opinion. But I still have to disagree strongly that those matches are not mismatches.