Chappie - Nice journalism UG blog, good job on continuing to only report stories from a pro Zuffa perspective.
The culinary union is hoping to find useful idiots in the fighters. They will have them go on strike immediately and stay on strike until they get a deal passed with the workers at the casinos. If that deal never happens, they will let fighters sit out career as they do not care about the fighter or UFC.
UFC will cut down ppv and cards to new fighters and guys who will cross line to get a pay day. You are crazy if you think this benefits any fighter under contract. 
twizzle97 -Chappie - Nice journalism UG blog, good job on continuing to only report stories from a pro Zuffa perspective.
I would love to read a story reporting about how the Culinary Union will be great for UFC fighters.
I don't think there is a story about that. Wonder why?
twizzle97 -Because it's not trueChappie - Nice journalism UG blog, good job on continuing to only report stories from a pro Zuffa perspective.
I would love to read a story reporting about how the Culinary Union will be great for UFC fighters.
I don't think there is a story about that. Wonder why?
What a dumb idea.
An Expensive Hat - This is a good thing that the Culinary Union is doing. It has nothing personal against MMA, just against Zuffa. It sees now that the fighters being unionized will mean less profit for Zuffa (because more of it will go towards the fighters), which will put Zuffa in a slightly worse position.
Everyone saying this is bad is just naive and ignorant of history. You'll never get ahead ONLY working with guys who personally love what you do and who'd never take a shot at the UFC, especially when you're basically going to have to fight the UFC to get unionized. The idea that, even though fighters unionizing is good, somehow it's bad if the Union is involved, is outright ridiculous.
Have you read or heard some of the shit the Cullinary Union has said about MMA? They don't give a single ounce of fuck about the fighters. This is purely a move to try and stick it to Zuffa because the Fertita's casino's aren't union. While I agree a fighters union would be good for the fighters and could eventually do some good for the sport it is FAR better off if they get there without that particular union being involved in the process in anyway.
An Expensive Hat -Clarence Parents - What a dumb idea.
How is it a bad idea?
An Expensive Hat - #1: Combat sports unions are a HUGE uphill battle. Not remotely comparable to team sports unions, which were themselves very hard to get.
#2: The Culinary Union is interested in money, not ideology. It doesn't, as a group, form likes and dislikes, and operate based on that the way a human being might. It's only problem, pretty clearly, is with alleged anti-union policies practiced by Station Casinos. (Dana always parrots the Station Casino's side of the story, that the employees voted to stay out of the union; the unions claim this vote either never happened or didn't result in a majority, large numbers of employees have approached them saying the general mood is the workers are being punished for even discussing unions, etc).
Thus, the Culinary Union is interested in seeing less money in Station Casino's pockets. It's one of their interests.
#3: Fighters unionizing will directly mean less money in Zuffa, and thus Station Casino's, pockets. There's no rose tinted view where the fighters unionize and take a bigger cut, but popularity explodes and Dana White makes more money somehow anyway. It just doesn't work like that. Thus, if the fighters succeed, they will take money out of the hands of Station Casino's. Their interests line up quite nicely with the Culinary Union's; people have certainly accomplished a lot with interests that didn't line up quite that nicely.
Look, personally, fuck the Culinary Union, I hate their statements. But this is not bad for the fighters, that's for sure. And if this isn't just a public statement, but something they plan on following through with, it's good for the sport.
Malvert the Janitor - Two greedy cooperate entities pretending to give a shit about people in an effort to further their own interests.
It boggles my mind that people can't differentiate between 'the culinary union' and UniteHere. The Culinary Union is a Las Vegas-based local that has a beef with Station Casinos. UniteHere is a national union that has dozens of affiliates, of which the Las Vegas culinary union is just one of many. It's UniteHere and the Teamsters who have offered to put their muscle behind the fighter's organization efforts, not just 'the culinary union'. UniteHere and the Teamsters are heavy hitters who can even the scales in the battle between the Zuffa monolith and the fighters it uses as grist for it's money-making mill.
Malvert the Janitor - Two greedy cooperate entities pretending to give a shit about people in an effort to further their own interests.
Anyone favoring the pieces of shit running that culinary union over the UFC have no clue what they have been doing to MMA for years. They are NOT our friends.
An Expensive Hat -Serious question, what about New York though?turdboy - Anyone favoring the pieces of shit running that culinary union over the UFC have no clue what they have been doing to MMA for years. They are NOT our friends.
UniteHere is working for fighters unionizing, not the Culinary Union. The Culinary Union is one of several affiliates to UniteHere, which is just a big, nationwide union/unionizing organization.
And the Culinary Union hasn't done shit to MMA, you dope. They issue inflammatory statements, but they didn't get the UFC taken off of Spike once, or force the UFC to not sign a fan favorite fighter, or anything like that.
An Expensive Hat -turdboy - Anyone favoring the pieces of shit running that culinary union over the UFC have no clue what they have been doing to MMA for years. They are NOT our friends.
UniteHere is working for fighters unionizing, not the Culinary Union. The Culinary Union is one of several affiliates to UniteHere, which is just a big, nationwide union/unionizing organization.
And the Culinary Union hasn't done shit to MMA, you dope. They issue inflammatory statements, but they didn't get the UFC taken off of Spike once, or force the UFC to not sign a fan favorite fighter, or anything like that.
And the Culinary Union hasn't done shit to MMA, you dope. They issue inflammatory statements, but they didn't get the UFC taken off of Spike once, or force the UFC to not sign a fan favorite fighter, or anything like that.
An Expensive Hat -VinegarStrokes -
If fighters want to get a union together cool. Go talk to MLBPA, NBAPA, NFLPA, NHLPA etc. They would have a MUCH better understanding of unionizing as professional athletes than the Cullinary Union. The CU doesn't give two shits about the sport of MMA they are just pissed because they can't get dues from the thousands of employees of the station casinos. The CU are a bunch of money hungry politicians that don't give two shits about the workers just getting more dues to line their pockets.
I hope you didn't actually think post before you hit "post" on that, dude. None of those groups has any interest in unionizing fighters, because it's not good (or bad) for them. It means nothing to them. The Culinary Union understands that a unionized UFC is a UFC with more profit going towards the athletes and less going towards Station Casinos, which is good for them and good for the fighters, for different reasons.
Steve4192 -Correct. The other point being missed by many is that the fighters are forming an Association. Not looking to unionize. These Unions are simply throwing their weight behind the organizational efforts. Nothing to date had indicated they will have a formal role in the actual running of the MMAFA.
It boggles my mind that people can't differentiate between 'the culinary union' and UniteHere. The Culinary Union is a Las Vegas-based local that has a beef with Station Casinos. UniteHere is a national union that has dozens of affiliates, of which the Las Vegas culinary union is just one of many. It's UniteHere and the Teamsters who have offered to put their muscle behind the fighter's organization efforts, not just 'the culinary union'. UniteHere and the Teamsters are heavy hitters who can even the scales in the battle between the Zuffa monolith and the fighters it uses as grist for it's money-making mill.
An Expensive Hat -badtrip -An Expensive Hat -Clarence Parents - What a dumb idea.
How is it a bad idea?
So how is more money being fleeced out of the UFC and into the pockets of a corrupt union a good thing? The Communist union fucks will use that money to ban fighting and fund their socialist police state. I see nothing but bad. If you are a fighter and want to make more money then win some fucking fights. If you can't win then maybe you should find a job you can do to make an honest living.
The fighters union will ban fighting? Honestly I should have expected you to be this stupid once you said "Communist union fucks" with a capitalized C, lol.
You are a fucking dummy.
In capitalism, if you overexploit a resource, the price will increase and the market will correct itself. This same logic applies to human beings; if they feel they're being exploited, and they know their labor is funding an extravagant lifestyle for the boss, they will unionize and demand more. It's the human being equivalent of like, someone overhunting pigs in their area and pigs thus no longer being the same price. This applies to fighting and everything else labor related.
The fighters inviting in a union is like the coal workers voting for the socialist Kenyan. It will not end well. The union will work to ban fighting as much as Oblahblah worked to ban coal.
An Expensive Hat -turdboy -An Expensive Hat -turdboy - Anyone favoring the pieces of shit running that culinary union over the UFC have no clue what they have been doing to MMA for years. They are NOT our friends.
UniteHere is working for fighters unionizing, not the Culinary Union. The Culinary Union is one of several affiliates to UniteHere, which is just a big, nationwide union/unionizing organization.
And the Culinary Union hasn't done shit to MMA, you dope. They issue inflammatory statements, but they didn't get the UFC taken off of Spike once, or force the UFC to not sign a fan favorite fighter, or anything like that.And the Culinary Union hasn't done shit to MMA, you dope. They issue inflammatory statements, but they didn't get the UFC taken off of Spike once, or force the UFC to not sign a fan favorite fighter, or anything like that.
ou either have no clue or you are straight up lying. I don't know what is worse.
The Culinary Union has a history of attempting to shut down UFC operations, prevent sanctioning of MMA, block the UFC from putting on events, preventing fan favorites from competing in high profile venues and generally being a thorn in the Fertitta's side because of their past issues with Station Casinos.
How many fighters have not been paid because the Local 226 did everything possible - including paying off politicians - to prevent the UFC from putting events on in New York? That isn't "caring for fighters". That waging a vendetta against a company that pissed them off in the past. Their "affiliation" with UniteHere is nothing but a political move to get back at the UFC - NOT to protect fighters - regardless of UniteHere's mission statement.
Why did you put quotation marks around "caring for fighters" the same way you put quotation marks around "affiliation," a word I actually used? Do you think my position is that the unions are caring for fighters?
MMAtador - Crazy stuff, I just wish the best for the fighters and the teamsters are a solid union. If they can pull it off it might be a good thing.