from the way it was descibed to me, if you reverse from mount or side control no points are awarded. Getting out of a shitty position is considered to be its own reward
ChipW - What about turning into a single leg from bottom side control, getting to knees, then feet and then taking the guy down? Is that a scoring move? If so is it a sweep or a takedown? <br><br>I've heard it called a sweep before but going by the above rule it's either a reversal(no points) or a takedown. <img src="/images/phone/apple.png" alt="Phone Post" border="0" style="vertical-align:middle;"/>
takedown and sweep are worth the same points so what does it matter? im pretty sure this would be a sweep/takedown because you come up to your knees 1st which puts you in turtle and if you go from turtle to top position you get 2 points.
Yeah 2 points is 2 points. Some seem to think the situation I described is no points though. 
andrewn - "What about turning into a single leg from bottom side control, getting to knees, then feet and then taking the guy down? Is that a scoring move? If so is it a sweep or a takedown? "
According to a ref's seminar I went to with one of the few if any non-Brazilians involved in redrafting the IBJJF rules, Stephen Kamphuis, any continuous movement that starts from the guard and puts the guy down is regarded as a sweep. If there is a break in the movement (e.g. the guard guy goes to knees, stops and then initiates a takedown from the knees) it is not regarded as a sweep and does not get sweep points. If you, say started in open guard, spun to your knees and picked the guy's ankle in a continuous movement, that would be a sweep.
In the situation you describe, if you got TO YOUR FEET from under side control, then took the guy down FROM HIS FEET, that would be a takedown, 2 points. If either of you are not on your feet when the "takedown" occurs, then no points. You might get an advantage if you are on your feet and he is on one or both knees.
IMO - it isn't always clear cut.
Even if both of you get to your feet, if it's a continuous motion that began from a grounded position (other than guard) and the grips don't change, it's not a takedown. A TAKEDOWN CAN NEVER BEGIN FROM THE GROUND. If you both stand up, and there is a substantial change in grip (i.e. he gets the leg out & you separate & then re-engage), then it's a new position and you can get a takedown from there.
Baroquen Record -ChipW - What about turning into a single leg from bottom side control, getting to knees, then feet and then taking the guy down? Is that a scoring move? If so is it a sweep or a takedown? <br><br>I've heard it called a sweep before but going by the above rule it's either a reversal(no points) or a takedown. <img src="/images/phone/apple.png" alt="Phone Post" border="0" style="vertical-align:middle;"/>
takedown and sweep are worth the same points so what does it matter? im pretty sure this would be a sweep/takedown because you come up to your knees 1st which puts you in turtle and if you go from turtle to top position you get 2 points.
Sweep & takedown ARE the same points, but they are not interchangeable....you can get a sweep if you come up from the guard position in a continuos motion & put the person down. However, you CANNOT score points from turtle....no sweeps, takedowns, etc. Turtle is NOT a scoring position. You do NOT get 2 points for going from turtle to top position.