"Really? How does that work since I'm 6 months better as well.
I've grappled with the same guys from highschool who went on to wrestle though college. They still have no answer. I know its hard for wrestlers to hear but your skill is limited. "
But your BJJ is flawless right? buttscoots off thread
thePetester - "Really? How does that work since I'm 6 months better as well. I've grappled with the same guys from highschool who went on to wrestle though college. They still have no answer. I know its hard for wrestlers to hear but your skill is limited. "But your BJJ is flawless right? buttscoots off thread
It doesnt have to be to flawless when your dealing with a wrestler because their ground skills are very limited when compared to JJ. For example, you get a wrestler on his back and he rolls to his stomach every time, giving up his back and is choked out with ease. Wrestlers try to bully their moves with strength, which is why a ten pound weight difference in a tournament is such a big deal. With BJJ, the skill uses technique that will let a weaker person handle a stronger person.
Wet - thePetester - "Really? How does that work since I'm 6 months better as well. I've grappled with the same guys from highschool who went on to wrestle though college. They still have no answer. I know its hard for wrestlers to hear but your skill is limited. "But your BJJ is flawless right? buttscoots off thread
It doesnt have to be to flawless when your dealing with a wrestler because their ground skills are very limited when compared to JJ. For example, you get a wrestler on his back and he rolls to his stomach every time, giving up his back and is choked out with ease. Wrestlers try to bully their moves with strength, which is why a ten pound weight difference in a tournament is such a big deal. With BJJ, the skill uses technique that will let a weaker person handle a stronger person.
I don't believe you've ever done any serious BJJ. It's not as easy to choke out someone out from the back/top as you seem to believe. The defense is something a wrestler will do instinctively, wrist control. In the real world rules make fights, adults know this, to see for yourself wrestle a folkstyle match under folkstyle rules. After the season is over off season wrestling starts, in SE Pa and environs we have MAWA, I'm sure somewhere near you is a similar organization. Step up and compete, tells us how it all works out.
Here's the homepage, you might be able to find some competitions near your mom's home:
http://www.mawawrestling.com/
"I don't believe you've ever done any serious BJJ. It's not as easy to choke out someone out from the back/top as you seem to believe. The defense is something a wrestler will do instinctively, wrist control. In the real world rules make fights, adults know this, to see for yourself wrestle a folkstyle match under folkstyle rules. After the season is over off season wrestling starts, in SE Pa and environs we have MAWA, I'm sure somewhere near you is a similar organization. Step up and compete, tells us how it all works out."
Most correct statement on this thread.
agreed
BJJ is not as easy as "Wet" thinks it is
and wrestling is not as easy as he thinks it is either
thePetester - "I don't believe you've ever done any serious BJJ. It's not as easy to choke out someone out from the back/top as you seem to believe. The defense is something a wrestler will do instinctively, wrist control. In the real world rules make fights, adults know this, to see for yourself wrestle a folkstyle match under folkstyle rules. After the season is over off season wrestling starts, in SE Pa and environs we have MAWA, I'm sure somewhere near you is a similar organization. Step up and compete, tells us how it all works out."
Most correct statement on this thread.
Probably the dumbest post ive ever read. Its amazing that you are able to tell that i have no experience in BJJ just from a post i made. Well aside from having years of experience in sambo and judo, i am also a purple belt in BJJ. Which is why you look like such a moron right now. As i've stated i have grappled with many wrestlers. Aside from the wrestlers who come into the school to learn BJJ and MMA, i have two brothers who both went to college on full wrestling scholarships. Ive destroyed wrestlers using BJJ and choked them out with ease. Are you paying attention Captain Awesome (dumbest name ever) thats not an assumption ive made, its based on actual experience. So yes, BJJ is as easy as i think.
Yah but can BJJ guys jump off the top rope and land a devastating elbow?
Zahursky - Its also the only martail art that you go 100% everytime you practice and compete.
Other martial arts you go at most 90%. If you go 100% and without pads you usually get or give injuries.
I had always wondered if this made wrestlers better. They say in Russia the wrestlers do a lot more 50% sparring/play wrestling. But they also say that Japanese Judoka go 100% full bore every sparring session...
I think going 100% all the time in practice in wrestling would be a club to club thing. Different coaches have different philosophies on that.
Wrestling is just a good base because it deals with a lot of the positions you will generally find yourself stuck with in a fight-provided that people who specialize in wrestling will generally have better cardio and a better ground game because wrestling is actaully an anerobic excercise meaning its like your lifting weights the whole time