Chuck ranking is staedily declining. Matt Hughes is also. With all the new fighters from Pride and the competition in Matts weight class(gsp, kos, diego, the prodigy)and the new competition for Chuck, the ufc will have some new faces to represent the company.
Rich, Tim, Chuck, and Matt are slowly fading away as each contract is signed. Buh-bye
So what chuck, overeem was owning him until he got caught. Shoguns untamed aggression would be too much for chuck to handle, chuck is a good counter puncher, but shogun would overwhelm him.
I agree. I think Chuck KO's Shogun. I could kinda seeing it happening like Babalu when he was chasing Chuck and got KO'd. Shogun's style is he trys to push the pace of the fight, which is a cardinal sin when you fight Chuck. I think Wandy has a better shot to beat Chuck because he sits and waits until it's the right time to brawl.
Is this confirmed, I have been out of it for a while. I say this one is too close to call. I have always been a Shogun fan but damn, Chuck is going to be coming out like a bat out of hell after his loss.
I love Shogun, but he has a questionable chin and nowhere near the accuracy or power that Chuck has in his hands. yeah, he'd probably hit Chuck 5x before Chuck got him, but when Chuck gets him its gonna be ugly. Nogueira dropped Shogun pretty much every 30 seconds that they spend on the feet; I'm sure Chuck would catch him too.
Its hard to take a lot from the shogun-rampage fight though. Quinton looked pretty bad in that fight, and Shogun did all of his damage from the clinch. I think Chuck can avoid the clinch and force Shogun to chase him.
I agree with the thread starter, Shogun couldnt take Chuck down and i favour chuck standing because of his power. I actually consider Shogun at least as much of a grappler as a striker and Chuck's superior wrestling would force Shogun to stand when he would otherwise look for the takedown. However, Shogun(and Wanderlei should he fight Chuck) both use the clinch very effectively so that might even up the stand up battle. Nonetheless, id go with Chuck via eventually one his big punches.
I cant believe how after losing one fight people are dismissing Chuck in the space of a sentance.
No one doubts Chucks power, but he is not a very technical striker and he
finally got caught in the Rampage fight. I can see Shogun by strikes, but
somehow submitting Chuck.
"No one doubts Chucks power, but he is not a very technical striker and he finally got caught in the Rampage fight"
This is true but does Shogun have that kind of power? Not to mention Shogun is far from a technical striker himself and has been outstruck a few times. If Shogun allowed it to become a brawl and chased Chuck aggressively i think Chuck's power would prevail(i could see Shogun holding his own but ultimately lacking the sort of power necessary to KO Chuck).
Yes, I agree. I think people have it out for Chuck because they associate his fans with people who are only casual fans of the sport and know him from talk shows and xyience commercials. If you look at him as a fighter, he's excellent and can give a lot of Prides beloved 205ers trouble.
And for the record, I actually think Alistair Overeem with a gas tank is a tougher fight for Chuck than Shogun.