Why is jbj even in the goat convo?

Lol you guys are an unhinged lot that’s for sure

Look what happened in the rematch when Jones actually trained for the fight

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Landed an early illegal low blow in under the first minute that injured Gus and changed the fight?

Yep I remember that

Remember Santos
Remember Reyes
Remember Anthony Smith
Remember OSP

Post those fights and brag on “Goat”

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He pissed hot for that fight as well, they had to move the event because he wasn’t allowed fight in Nevada.

You fuckin idiot

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Break this down NDA…

Failed drug tests

UFC 182

On January 6, 2015, it was announced that Jones failed a drug test prior to UFC 182. He tested positive for benzoylecgonine, the primary metabolite of cocaine.[141] Because benzoylecgonine is not banned out-of-competition by the World Anti-Doping Agency (WADA), the NSAC could not halt Jones from participating during UFC 182. He was randomly tested on December 3, 2014, and results came back on December 23. A week after his first test, Jones was tested again. He passed the second test, which meant that the cocaine metabolite was out of his system before the fight. When the news was made public, Jones went into rehab for one night.[141][232][233] He was fined $25,000 on January 17 for violating the UFC’s Athlete Code of Conduct policy.[234] On January 19, 2015, Jones was interviewed for the first time since the failed drug test and said: “…I’m not a cocaine addict by any means or not even a frequent user. I just made a really dumb decision and got caught with my pants down in this whole situation.”[235]

Prior to his UFC 182 bout with Cormier, Jones’s testosterone/epitestosterone (T/E) ratio was considered by some experts to be alarmingly low. Victor Conte, a former steroid distributor, who founded and led the Bay Area Laboratory Co-operative (BALCO), said of Jones’s test “these (levels) are highly suspicious for Jon Jones, in my opinion. This is the reason that sophisticated anti-doping officials do target testing. So based on what we see here, my opinion is Jon Jones should be on a very short leash and should be random tested here until they sort out why he has these anomalies.”[236] This resulted in several journalists imploring the NSAC to utilize CIR (Carbon Isotope Ratio) testing on Jones’s samples. “Luckily, this is a situation where speculation could quickly be ended. Jon Jones’s drug test samples still exist and a simple Carbon Isotope Ratio test could be conducted to find the result. Put simply, a CIR test would be able to determine if the testosterone in Jones’s system was synthetic or natural,” Brent Brookhouse of Bloody Elbow wrote.[237] However, according to NSAC executive director Bob Bennett, Jones’s test samples had already undergone CIR testing by the same WADA-accredited lab which had reported his T/E ratios, noting that all CIR results came back clean.[238] Additionally, he said there were three different types of tests done during each of the random tests: urine, blood testing for human growth hormone and a blood passport test. “The only negative was testing positive for cocaine metabolites,” Bennett said.[239]

UFC 200

On July 8, 2016, a urine sample from Jones tested positive for two banned substances, clomiphene, an anti-estrogen substance, and letrozole, an aromatase inhibitor, prior to his scheduled championship bout with Cormier at UFC 200. The violation was from an “A” sample collection on June 16, with subsequent testing of the B sample confirming the doping. Both drugs, which are on the World Anti-Doping Agency banned substances list, are described as “hormone and metabolic modulators”, which are not allowed to be used in or out of competition.[240][241] As a result, Jones had to withdraw from the event, and was replaced by former middleweight champion Anderson Silva.[242] Throughout the ordeal, Jones maintained his innocence, claiming that he was the victim of a contaminated product that he believed to be Cialis, which was later independently obtained, tested and found to be contaminated by the United States Anti-Doping Agency (USADA).[243] On November 7, 2016, it was announced that Jones was issued a one-year suspension by USADA following his arbitration hearing, though the panel concluded that Jones did not take the banned substances intentionally, and was not a drug cheat.[244]

UFC 214

On August 22, 2017, it was announced that Jones was flagged for a potential doping violation by USADA, stemming from his test sample that was collected on July 28, one day before his rematch against Cormier at UFC 214. He tested positive for Turinabol, an anabolic steroid, and was placed on a provisional suspension as a result of the positive drug test.[28] On September 13, the CSAC announced that it had overturned the result of the fight with Cormier from a KO victory for Jones to a ‘no contest’, after both Jones’s A and B samples tested positive for Turinabol. Jones was also stripped of the title for a third time, and it was then returned to Cormier.[245]

Jones stated that he did not knowingly take any prohibited substances,[246] with his team believing Jones consumed tainted substances. Jones potentially faced up to a 4-year suspension if found guilty,[247] but on September 18 he was handed a 15-month suspension by USADA, retroactive to July 28,[248] plus three months community service.[249] Thirty months were deducted from the four-year suspension because Jones provided “substantial assistance” to USADA. “Substantial assistance” refers to an athlete informing an anti-doping agency about a doping violation by another athlete.[250] USADA said it reduced the suspension by a further three months after a hearing with an independent arbitrator, Richard McLaren, on September 15.[248]Travis Tygart, CEO of USADA, said in a statement: “The independent arbitrator found that Jon Jones was not intentionally cheating in this case, and while we thought 18 months was the appropriate sanction given the other circumstances of the case, we respect the arbitrator’s decision and believe that justice was served. This case is another strong reminder that athletes need to be extremely cautious about the products and supplements they use to ensure they are free of prohibited substances.”[251]

UFC 232

Jones became eligible to fight again on October 28, 2018,[252] and was scheduled to fight against Alexander Gustafsson at UFC 232 in Las Vegas on December 29. However, after further inconsistencies arose with his drug test on December 23, he was not granted a license to compete in Nevada, so the event was moved to Los Angeles.[253] In order to receive a license from CSAC, Jones had to enroll into the VADA (Voluntary Anti-Doping Association) testing program, thus making him the first UFC fighter to be signed to both USADA and VADA testing programs simultaneously.[254] Drug tests administered at UFC 232 found an ultra trace amount of turinabol, which doctors attributed to a long-term “pulsing effect” of the M3 metabolite detected in 2017. CSAC did not take disciplinary action against Jones as the medical experts stated that there was no evidence that Jones had re-administered a banned substance and no performance-enhancing benefits were gained.[255]

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JBJ won Pre and Post USADA. Looked the same the whole time. Good enough for me

He’s the greatest combat sports athlete of all time and it’s not even close

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Shit troll, Jones is a great fighter , he’s still a dirty cheating cunt, could he have done it without the anabolic steroids, we will never know but he certainly didn’t think so.

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Ok

Yeah sure and Lance Armstrong is the greatest cyclist , Ben Johnson the worlds fastest man.

Doesn’t fucking matter when you’re cheating

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Two division champ

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Haha that fake smile

You can see the dishonesty and lies in that expression

He’s smiling cause he knows there’s not a single man on planet earth that is beating him in a real fight

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He went life or death with a middleweight , shitting himself when the decision against Santos was being read, he got lucky in that one, he will beat old man retired Stipe and run from HW because he knows there are 3-4 people coming up that could beat him and the division is weak as it’s ever been.

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There’s not a resume that compares

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Haha

First of all what is a “real fight”

Second of all he could have been a HW the whole time and proved what you claim

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MMA. Not boxing or kick boxing or Muay Thai

He was busy beating everybody’s favorite fighter at LHW. Then he was busy beating the new generation of fighters

Real fight has no rules bubba

No, he spoke of moving up to HW in 2013 and decided it wasn’t a good idea after training with Overeem once

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Then all your favourite Pride/UFC fighters have to be taken out of the convo and possibly more from other orgs. :man_shrugging::man_shrugging:

People who have never trained don’t understand.

Muscle memory doesn’t come overnight.

Techniques, don’t come overnight.

There is a grind. Your body gets sore week in, week out. “Recovery” is a term mma fighters are familiar with, for a reason. You cannot train multiple hours a day, 7 days a week. Your body needs to rest.

Steroids, ie performance enhancing drugs, allow a person to reach that established muscle memory faster. Peds allow a fighter to spend 20 extra hours a month working solely on one specific technique, where as those 20 hours are required to be used to rest/recover for a normal, non cheating human.

Did Vitor Belfort take a steroid pill and all of a sudden become an expert at judging his high kick range, all of a sudden became an expert at throwing high kicks?

No, Vitor had to work on those techniques in the gym, over a long period of time. Vitor could still have worked on those same techniques, and still acquired the same knowledge of range and same skill to throw techniques, but it would have taken an even longer amount of time if he was clean.

Apply that same logic to Jon Jones and his PED use.

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Because xenophobic americant GOAT enthusiasts need somebody counter Khabib’s dominance and undefeated record.

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