i stumbled on this article.
http://practical-martial-arts.co.uk/practical_martial_arts/dg_engarde.html
Which really made me think that a lot of the WC stuff works better for weaponry as opposed to empty hands.
Before a certain "group" of individuals from the "aliveness community" comment, if you do not have any background in Fencing or bladed weapons, I suggest you do not try to be a know it all.
That's cool. If you know the history of boxing, you know a lot of the "modern" boxing stance was adapted from fencing postures and movements as well.
buddie - That's cool. If you know the history of boxing, you know a lot of the "modern" boxing stance was adapted from fencing postures and movements as well.
Yes! Seems like Bruce was into fencing too and for good reasons. The FMA system I study is closed to Spanish/European fencing than most systems. Interesting.
If memory serves Guro Dan's sister (before she passed away) had written an article in inside kung fu about how boxing was revolutionized by the american soldiers stationed in the Philipines after the Spandish American war.
Her theory was that the american soldiers that boxed liked the way the filipinos fought. The filipinos using more of a pakal(icepick grip) knife fighting format mentality when doing their mano Y mano training.
If so , BL adopted boxing as a practical art perhaps without the knowledge that he was adopting something that in itself had been developed with filipino MA.
It gives me a headache just thinking about that..:>)
This is the article jrrrrr mentioned:
Did Filipino Martial Arts Revolutionize Boxing? by Lilia I. Howe
Siciliano's link: http://practical-martial-arts.co.uk/practical_martial_arts/dg_engarde.html
awe dude, Stick to the rescue... definitely a VTFU....
Stickgrappler -
This is the article jrrrrr mentioned:
Did Filipino Martial Arts Revolutionize Boxing? by Lilia I. Howe
Siciliano's link: http://practical-martial-arts.co.uk/practical_martial_arts/dg_engarde.html
Thanks for the link Stick. I’ve read this before but still have my doubts regarding the accuracy of the article. However, one of my trainers back home was a boxer/escrimador (he was in his 60s). Showed me a lot of dirty boxing stuff (much more refined than Couture’s) – and to think that this was prior to MMA going mainstream.
Buddie – quite interesting indeed.
There’s a youtube clip of Ray floro explaining how Katas relate well with sword fighting and weapons.
Check out this vid. At 3:00, Ray Floro explains why the traditional martial arts empty hand movements have a lot in common with weapons. Including katas.
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=GLNAGb9pNFA
jrrrrr - If memory serves Guro Dan's sister (before she passed away) had written an article in inside kung fu about how boxing was revolutionized by the american soldiers stationed in the Philipines after the Spandish American war.
Her theory was that the american soldiers that boxed liked the way the filipinos fought. The filipinos using more of a pakal(icepick grip) knife fighting format mentality when doing their mano Y mano training.
If so , BL adopted boxing as a practical art perhaps without the knowledge that he was adopting something that in itself had been developed with filipino MA.
It gives me a headache just thinking about that..:>)
If this article is indeed accurate, it still took an American (Freddie Roach) to catapult Manny Pacquiao's skills and make him arguably the best boxer who ever lived. LOL.
There is no argument for Pacquiao being the best boxer ever. He's fantastic, but he's not even close. There is a lot of history there.
buddie - There is no argument for Pacquiao being the best boxer ever. He's fantastic, but he's not even close. There is a lot of history there.
Agree. But he's way up there.