I'm not looking for a "which is best" style argument, but what are the advantages and disadvantages of each sport compared to the other?
Both for ring fighting and self defence.
both are good, I prefer judo (just personal opinion)
judo looks cooler imo
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=TwxsqdHLkYs
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doesnt answer ur question..... but as fan of both sports ....maybe interetsting..jason morris 77-2 over hs wrestling career ..... 2x nys champ 84-85?...kinda wrestling vs judo..wrestled as a hobby...went to syracuse univ...was an aa... and then olympics 5x and lost to yoshida in 92 olympics gold medal bout...judo was his base and passion
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- 89 French Open - Paris, France
- 89 Pacific Rim Championships - Bejing, China
- 88 German Open - Russelsheim, Germany
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- 90 Kano Cup - Tokyo, Japan
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- 86 Jr. World Championships - Rome, Italy
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FIFTH
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- 94 Goodwill Games - St. Petersburg, Russia
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- 87 World Championships - Essen, Germany
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- 95 & 86 Austrian Open - Leonding, Austria
- 94 French Open - Paris, France
- 91 World Championships - Barcelona, Spain
Oddessa, thanks for the video. Jason Morris' no-gi o soto gari is amazing. Executed multiple times on a state finalist to boot!
Are we talking Canadian Judo or Hawaiian High School Judo?
Good video, his trips look quick.
I came from more of a judo background but switched to wrestling after I did a few years of research.
My research was tracking competitions were a judoka met a wrestler of equal level in a tournament whether it be high school or international... this was a while ago but the stat was the wrestler won the take down something like 78% or 82%... anyway it was overwhelming... so I ditched my Judo program and only wrestle now. I still show basic high % throws occasionally tho, the stuff that everyone should know
I still find Judo the most fun to play tho
Both are good. Judo is better when people are wearing jackets, wrestling if no jackets ... but you can't go wrong with either.
However, if you're in the US, which is a top five wrestling country but not even a top thirty judo country, go wrestling - the level of judo in the US (with a few exceptions) is much lower than the level of judo.
Its sort of like asking which is better, soccer or ice-hockey. If you live in Brazil I'd go with soccer, if you live in Canada, I'd go with hockey.
judo teaches you how to end a fight, and is adapted for the street with its gi techniques.
judokas can actually fnish fights with the skills they learn.
wrestlers have to rely on a slam.
wrestling is a great base but it's not self contained. judo definitely is.
That osoto with the over the back grip, is my favorite throw. I use it all the time.
Thing is unless you're already an athlete and are in some schools wrestling program where will you learn to wrestle? US judo may be weak at the international level, but what's the quality of the program for everyday people? I mean sure you'll probably get better judo instruction from a world champion, but how many people does that affect? For the record I live in Canada not the US 
I'm no expert or anything, but I have done judo in the past with guys that were doing both judo and wrestling and I feel that handfighting in wrestling is more practical for self-defense/MMA than gripfighting in judo.
I feel that b/c of the gi, judo is a more static sport with spurts of explosiveness while wrestling is much more dynamic overall.
If your intent is to do BJJ, I say do judo.
If you want to do MMA, wrestle.
If you can only do one, I say wrestle. IMO, the ideal would be a wrestler with judo skills ie. throws, sweeps, and even a submission or two.
Already In Use - Wrestling
Advantages:
1. Teaches to scramble quickly
2. Excellent takedown and defense
3. Good pinning and holding techniques
4. No reliance on the "gi"
Disadvantages:
1. Lacks submission techniques and defense
Judo:
Advantages:
1. Excellent throws and sweeps
2. Submission skills
Disadvantages:
1. Too much reliance on the gi
2. Some throwing techniques could put you in a disadvantaged position
This. Except I would add that Judo throws are a lot more damaging than wrestling takedowns, especially on hard ground
georgejonesjr - Both are good. Judo is better when people are wearing jackets, wrestling if no jackets ... but you can't go wrong with either.
However, if you're in the US, which is a top five wrestling country but not even a top thirty judo country, go wrestling - the level of judo in the US (with a few exceptions) is much lower than the level of judo.
Its sort of like asking which is better, soccer or ice-hockey. If you live in Brazil I'd go with soccer, if you live in Canada, I'd go with hockey.
Since when did America become a top 5 wrestling nation?lol Not even top 10 or top 15
your average NCAA qualifier would demolish a judo black belt in seconds.
Look how wrestling does in MMA, then look at how judo does LOL.
Anyway wrestlers that take a month off and train submissions are the most lethal grapplers on the planet.
my father made all his kids, boys and girls do both. they go hand in hand, i hope u arent in a position where u just have to pick one to train exclusively. i think u will like them both but may find u prefer a little more. i like wrestling a little bit more, but my wrestling enriched by judo thanks to sooo many honourable teachers.
Liyon - I'm no expert or anything, but I have done judo in the past with guys that were doing both judo and wrestling and I feel that handfighting in wrestling is more practical for self-defense/MMA than gripfighting in judo.
I feel that b/c of the gi, judo is a more static sport with spurts of explosiveness while wrestling is much more dynamic overall.
If your intent is to do BJJ, I say do judo.
If you want to do MMA, wrestle.
If you can only do one, I say wrestle. IMO, the ideal would be a wrestler with judo skills ie. throws, sweeps, and even a submission or two.