Sagiv Lapkin - Because Affliction isn't going to be around much longer. The UFC is going no where.
I remember my Sys Admin saying the same thing about his staff when they got hired away by a rival start-up.
I'm just sayin'.....
Sagiv Lapkin - Because Affliction isn't going to be around much longer. The UFC is going no where.
dabigchet - let's assume:
- fighter pay is 5 million dollars
- total event cost is 10 million dollars to produce
- even brings in 5 million dollars
- affliction loses 5 million dollars total
in this scenario, how much are the fighters worth?
jaseprobst -dabigchet - let's assume:
- fighter pay is 5 million dollars
- total event cost is 10 million dollars to produce
- even brings in 5 million dollars
- affliction loses 5 million dollars total
in this scenario, how much are the fighters worth?
now THERE is a guy that's taken an Econ class.
Affliction should pay these fighters well because they've trained twice for one payday.
All this talk reminds me of my dot-com days, when I was trying to land IT guys, and you'd get 19 year-old kids walking out on an 80K a year job...on the first day.....on their LUNCH BREAK...because they found a better gig.
The free market is the free market.
The UFC is only obligated to pay what they have to pay to retain the services of their fighters. End of story. If guys can do better elsewhere, they will, and salaries will adjust to reflect that. After every show there's always someone that makes a thread kvetching about the low pay for entry-level guys but those same people never seem to reckon an estimation of what guys are pulling in sponsorships...which is several times that 3/3K figure from what I'm told (not a bunch more, but I'd guess most guys are pulling 10K minimum between purse and sponsors). Those sponsorships are far more lucrative fighting for the UFC than anywhere else. Which is good for the fighters. Try getting 10K from Condom Depot to fight in some far-flung organization....
That's not much different than the low-end of the undercard for boxing, which an entirely different sport to begin with. But look at your own job. Are you paid what you're worth? What your boss thinks you're worth? Those are almost always going to be two different numbers. The free market is the dynamic that forces a compromise.
The larger question is how the UFC/Affliction/whoever else emerges battle will play out. It's a new sport and while nobody likes monopolies, having seen the first sport I loved -- boxing -- get completely shredded by competing sanctioning bodies, it's a paradox for me in terms of how many orgs you'd want to prosper vs. cohesive matchups.....no more Fedor-like situations. Who knows. But the climate is definitely different...just like the dot-com craze, in the last couple years venturing fools have been savagely weeded out of MMA and there is considerable reluctance to get burned by getting in.
$800 for Tim Sylvia??? I'd really like to talk to the exec that thought that was a good idea
Affliction: Banned Fighter Salaries and Bonues
ATHLETE PURSE AMOUNT BONUS PAY TOTAL PAY
Tim Sylvia $800,000 $0 $799,790
Fedor Emelianenko $300,000 $0 $299,800
Mark Hominick $5,000 $5,000 $9,890
Savant Young $7,000 $0 $6,155
Terry Martin $30,000 $0 $29,400
Vitor Belfort $70,000 $70,000 $139,840
Joseph Ambrose $5,000 $0 $4,394
Mike Pyle $15,000 $5,000 $19,840
Edwin Dewees $15,000 $0 $14,840
Antonio Nogueira $50,000 $0 $49,240
Matt Lindland $225,000 $75,000 $299,540
Fabio Nascimiento $20,000 $0 $19,420
Mike Whitehead $50,000 $0 $43,500
Renato Sobral $60,000 $30,000 $97,880
Pedro Rizzo $70,000 $0 $69,740
Josh Barnett $300,000 $0 $295,079
Andre Arlovski $500,000 $250,000 $749,690
Ben Rothwell $250,000 $0 $249,790
Justin Levens $6,000 $0 $4,641
*Ray Lizama $3,000 $0 $3,490
Paul Buentello $60,000 $20,000 $79,098
Gary Goodridge $25,000 $0 $24,790
TOTALS $2,866,000 $2,866,000 $455,000 $3,319,737
According to the CSAC, Banned had a paid attendance of 11,242; complimentary attendance of 3,590; and was left with 740 deadwood or unsold tickets. The total attendance of the event was 14,832.
Gross receipts for paid attendance was $2,085,510 compared to a total fighter payroll of $3,321,000. The total value of the complimentary tickets was $600,500. The total value of unsold tickets was $157,400.
Affliction “Banned” Paid Attendance/Gross Receipts:
$2,085,510
Affliction “Banned” Fighter Payroll*:
$3,321,000