stainlesssteel - This is the EXACT same thing Stephen A Smith said after the fight and UFC fans lost their minds. Cerrone looked like he didn't want to be there and he quit. Now it's not Stephen A saying that. IT'S A FIGHTER WHO WENT TO WAR WITH CERRONE, AND LOST! So he has no axe to grind. Just speaking the brutal truth.
Also Cerrone has now come out and said reports that he had a broken orbital were not true. So that wipes out an entire layer of excuses. HE HAD A BROKEN ORBITAL!! HAVE YOU EVER HAD YOUR EYE BROKEN?!
This admission from Cerrone further proves his rep as a non high IQ level fighter, because by confirming nothing was broken, leads to the obvious question: THEN WHY DID YOU GIVE UP SO QUICKLY??
The really frustrating thing about Cerrone's awful performance is that MMA lost a huge opportunity. Even with other events going on that weekend, MMA was the main story and finally in the news. Imagine if it had been a spellbinding fight that had the arena buzzing and people all talking about it the next day in glowing terms. Who knows what connection MMA could have forged across mainstream?
Instead Cerrone comes out and lays down a dirty turkey egg that stinks so bad, so devoid of any action or competitiveness, the next day people are forced to wonder if he may have thrown the fight.
And these snippy Instagram chipshots at any fan who dares question his motivation won't do it. He needs to sit down look the camera in the eye, and explain to his remaining fans exactly why this happened.
If fans would find an ambitious attorney to launch a class action lawsuit to refund anyone that purchased the PPV, I think they would have a case. Any judge that viewed the fight, would immediately rule in favor of a refund.
Maybe if he hadn't been so obsessed with going jet skiing and mountain climbing during training camp, he might have lasted more than 40 seconds!
Sad that a self confessed OG never learned the first rule of OG; You never cheat the game. You always cheat yourself.
Good post.
Cowboy never showed up and stood there and let Conor shoulder strike him. Didnât try to move, create space, block, punch, go for takedownâŚnothing. He just stood there.
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"stood there and let Conor shoulder strike him. Didn't try to move, create space, block, punch, go for takedown...nothing. He just stood there."
Iâm really trying not to be rude but are you people actually this simple minded?
Conor had an overhook, holding himâŚhe has a bicep grip to frame and create spaceâŚthose strikes are simply not something Cowboy was prepared for, or probably anyone would be prepared for. Shoulder strikes are generally an annoyance, not something you spend time trying to defend. If Conor had a thai clinch, Cowboy knows and trains for that defenseâŚbut with this, he was simply stunned, confused and didnât know how to react. Cowboy has never had to deal with these strikes in that clinch positionâŚnow add to the fact that just being clinched probably seemed like a good place to be for Cowboy in his head, they probably felt that if he could clinch and tie Conor up it could be a key to victory, he wasnât at all trying to avoid a clinch. They did break/separate, but it was too late and the damage was done.
Do you remember when Travis Browne KOâd Barnett with those elbows?
Same situationâŚyou could criticize Barnett by saying âHe didnât do anything, he didnât move he just stayed there taking shotsââŚin reality, Barnett was in a position that he worked to get to, he wanted to be exactly where he wasâŚjust like Cowboy but he took hard ass shots, elbows from an angle we havenât really seen beforeâŚhe wasnât prepared for that and it completely shocked himâŚstunned him before he realized what was happeningâŚit was too late.
Youâre using hindsight to judge a persons actions in real time, âŚthatâs a silly way to look at things and how you get complete and utter morons screaming fake or dive. What you take from hindsight is learning,âŚCowboy didnât take a dive, he didnât come in just for a paycheck and he didnât just quitâŚhe got stunned, he got beat by something he was not prepared for and I donât think many other fighters would have been prepared for eitherâŚbut now you will see it, other fighters will try this and fighters will drill to defend it and be aware of this going forwardâŚjust like those Browne elbows, we saw it a couple more times and then fighters learned.
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^I appreciate the level-headed response. I just disagree with you. A trained fighter doesn't just stand there and take strikes without trying to escape or DO ANYTHING. He did nothing.
I respect your perspective but we donât agree. No big deal. Cowboy never showed up.
Conorâs a good fighter but this was not a fight. I donât feel compelled to act like it was to prop up Conorâs âperformanceâ. It was a waste of time and didnât show us anything as SAS said.
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Nate beat them both and said the same thing.
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CaptainWoody - "stood there and let Conor shoulder strike him. Didn't try to move, create space, block, punch, go for takedown...nothing. He just stood there."
Iâm really trying not to be rude but are you people actually this simple minded?
Conor had an overhook, holding himâŚhe has a bicep grip to frame and create spaceâŚthose strikes are simply not something Cowboy was prepared for, or probably anyone would be prepared for. Shoulder strikes are generally an annoyance, not something you spend time trying to defend. If Conor had a thai clinch, Cowboy knows and trains for that defenseâŚbut with this, he was simply stunned, confused and didnât know how to react. Cowboy has never had to deal with these strikes in that clinch positionâŚnow add to the fact that just being clinched probably seemed like a good place to be for Cowboy in his head, they probably felt that if he could clinch and tie Conor up it could be a key to victory, he wasnât at all trying to avoid a clinch. They did break/separate, but it was too late and the damage was done.
Do you remember when Travis Browne KOâd Barnett with those elbows?
Same situationâŚyou could criticize Barnett by saying âHe didnât do anything, he didnât move he just stayed there taking shotsââŚin reality, Barnett was in a position that he worked to get to, he wanted to be exactly where he wasâŚjust like Cowboy but he took hard ass shots, elbows from an angle we havenât really seen beforeâŚhe wasnât prepared for that and it completely shocked himâŚstunned him before he realized what was happeningâŚit was too late.
Youâre using hindsight to judge a persons actions in real time, âŚthatâs a silly way to look at things and how you get complete and utter morons screaming fake or dive. What you take from hindsight is learning,âŚCowboy didnât take a dive, he didnât come in just for a paycheck and he didnât just quitâŚhe got stunned, he got beat by something he was not prepared for and I donât think many other fighters would have been prepared for eitherâŚbut now you will see it, other fighters will try this and fighters will drill to defend it and be aware of this going forwardâŚjust like those Browne elbows, we saw it a couple more times and then fighters learned.
People forget the toe kick wobbled him and he got put away after that with big shots to the temple area.
The shoulder strikes are utterly irrelevant.
KnockoutThoughts - failure at life - To anyone who really watched fighting closely and knew what they were watching over the years, Cerrone always packed in when he faced guys who were coming to fight and could sustain pressure and beat him up for entire fight if necessary.
masvidal, Diaz, till, Edwards, dos anjos twice. If a guy stepped in and threw at Cerrone with bad intentions he shelled up every time.
Tony Ferguson took whatever courage Cerrone had left.
Cerroneâs anyone, anywhere, anytime, gimmick is just an act. Heâs back stage puking and swearing heâs never going to fight again when heâs warming up. Paul felder is the person Donald Cerrone pretends to be
Everyone you named he came to fight. I remember him toughing it out and trying in every fight you mentioned. He never stopped being dangerous in every single one of those fights. There is no other fight you can compare to his fight on 1/18/20. Not a single fight in his history matches that abomination of a fight⌠the body shot KO with RDA is the only comparable result, and there was an entirely different energy to Cowboyâs fight in that one compared to this sham. He came to fight in that one and it showed. He was swinging punches, firing leg kicks, and he made every effort to survive against RDA, even going for a takedown when he was in trouble. I have never seen Zero Offense Cerrone before. We will never see Zero Offense Cerrone again in his entire career. We called out the predictable showing given his words leading up to it.
Cerrone may have showed up to fight until he realized every one of those guys was going to keep the the pace they started at for the full 15 or 25 min.
Ceronne will stick around if heâs getting in his ass kicked to see if his opponent will fade the way Alexander Hernandez did but if he knows that someone like masvidal, dos anjos or till will back him up and pressure him the entire fight, he quits. If you canât see that you donât know anything about mma. Donât think about his bull riding and scuba diving when you think about him being a badass. He literally sits down any time he is getting beat up and quits if he canât keep distance and kick the guy and beat up his body. He always quits.
StrikingMMA - stainlesssteel - This is the EXACT same thing Stephen A Smith said after the fight and UFC fans lost their minds. Cerrone looked like he didn't want to be there and he quit. Now it's not Stephen A saying that. IT'S A FIGHTER WHO WENT TO WAR WITH CERRONE, AND LOST! So he has no axe to grind. Just speaking the brutal truth.
Also Cerrone has now come out and said reports that he had a broken orbital were not true. So that wipes out an entire layer of excuses. HE HAD A BROKEN ORBITAL!! HAVE YOU EVER HAD YOUR EYE BROKEN?!
This admission from Cerrone further proves his rep as a non high IQ level fighter, because by confirming nothing was broken, leads to the obvious question: THEN WHY DID YOU GIVE UP SO QUICKLY??
The really frustrating thing about Cerrone's awful performance is that MMA lost a huge opportunity. Even with other events going on that weekend, MMA was the main story and finally in the news. Imagine if it had been a spellbinding fight that had the arena buzzing and people all talking about it the next day in glowing terms. Who knows what connection MMA could have forged across mainstream?
Instead Cerrone comes out and lays down a dirty turkey egg that stinks so bad, so devoid of any action or competitiveness, the next day people are forced to wonder if he may have thrown the fight.
And these snippy Instagram chipshots at any fan who dares question his motivation won't do it. He needs to sit down look the camera in the eye, and explain to his remaining fans exactly why this happened.
If fans would find an ambitious attorney to launch a class action lawsuit to refund anyone that purchased the PPV, I think they would have a case. Any judge that viewed the fight, would immediately rule in favor of a refund.
Maybe if he hadn't been so obsessed with going jet skiing and mountain climbing during training camp, he might have lasted more than 40 seconds!
Sad that a self confessed OG never learned the first rule of OG; You never cheat the game. You always cheat yourself.
Good post.
Cowboy never showed up and stood there and let Conor shoulder strike him. Didnât try to move, create space, block, punch, go for takedownâŚnothing. He just stood there.
lol @ that gif - sooooo devestating. smh!
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StrikingMMA - ^I appreciate the level-headed response. I just disagree with you. A trained fighter doesn't just stand there and take strikes without trying to escape or DO ANYTHING. He did nothing.
I respect your perspective but we donât agree. No big deal. Cowboy never showed up.
Conorâs a good fighter but this was not a fight. I donât feel compelled to act like it was to prop up Conorâs âperformanceâ. It was a waste of time and didnât show us anything as SAS said.
I don't see how you can disagree though unless it's just pig headedness
What youâre arguing can be said for just about every single fight that is finished with strikes. You sound like someone who doesnât really understand, no offense but it sounds like my wife watching the fights and going âwhy did he just let the other guy punch him?â
If I hit you with a straight right hand cleanâŚItâs much easier to hit you with my other strikes correct? Hooks and big power shotsâŚbecause youâre stunned and dazed, I wouldnât land those big power shots out of the gate, youâd defend them. Thatâs what happened to CowboyâŚhe was stunned right out of the gate, very possibly with the knee/thigh and took another 3 hard shots to the face after.
Youâre acting like Cowboy just stood there with his hands down and let Conor punch him for no reasonâŚthatâs not what happened, Cowboy was blasted and couldnât recoverâŚit is what happens in pretty much all tko finishes.
Now really look at it,âŚthey were clinched for maybe 15 seconds or so, youâre acting like it was an eternity, like minutes going by with Conor just smacking him at will with no defenseâŚ15 secondsâŚthatâs not a long time, the whole situation happened very fast.
It wasnât that âCowboy didnât show upâ it was Cowboy got hit hard earlyâŚthatâs it. People want to diminish what Conor did by saying stuff like this, âCowboy quitâ, âCowboy didnât show up to fightââŚno, Cowboy just got his ass kicked the endâŚit wasnât about what Cowboy didnât do, it is about what Conor did do.
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CaptainWoody - StrikingMMA - ^I appreciate the level-headed response. I just disagree with you. A trained fighter doesn't just stand there and take strikes without trying to escape or DO ANYTHING. He did nothing.
I respect your perspective but we donât agree. No big deal. Cowboy never showed up.
Conorâs a good fighter but this was not a fight. I donât feel compelled to act like it was to prop up Conorâs âperformanceâ. It was a waste of time and didnât show us anything as SAS said.
I don't see how you can disagree though unless it's just pig headedness
What youâre arguing can be said for just about every single fight that is finished with strikes. You sound like someone who doesnât really understand, no offense but it sounds like my wife watching the fights and going âwhy did he just let the other guy punch him?â
If I hit you with a straight right hand cleanâŚItâs much easier to hit you with my other strikes correct? Hooks and big power shotsâŚbecause youâre stunned and dazed, I wouldnât land those big power shots out of the gate, youâd defend them. Thatâs what happened to CowboyâŚhe was stunned right out of the gate, very possibly with the knee/thigh and took another 3 hard shots to the face after.
Youâre acting like Cowboy just stood there with his hands down and let Conor punch him for no reasonâŚthatâs not what happened, Cowboy was blasted and couldnât recoverâŚit is what happens in pretty much all tko finishes.
Now really look at it,âŚthey were clinched for maybe 15 seconds or so, youâre acting like it was an eternity, like minutes going by with Conor just smacking him at will with no defenseâŚ15 secondsâŚthatâs not a long time, the whole situation happened very fast.
It wasnât that âCowboy didnât show upâ it was Cowboy got hit hard earlyâŚthatâs it. People want to diminish what Conor did by saying stuff like this, âCowboy quitâ, âCowboy didnât show up to fightââŚno, Cowboy just got his ass kicked the endâŚit wasnât about what Cowboy didnât do, it is about what Conor did do.
Talk about pig-headedness.
I guess you think Nate is pig-headed for calling the fight fake?
Cowboy didnât throw any strikes. This was his âNo masâ moment in his career. Youâre just refusing to recognize it.
Either way there was no fight. Cowboy put up zero resistance. Surely you can see that if you werenât already convinced the great Conor beat him up badly in an epic battle. 
StrikingMMA - CaptainWoody - StrikingMMA - ^I appreciate the level-headed response. I just disagree with you. A trained fighter doesn't just stand there and take strikes without trying to escape or DO ANYTHING. He did nothing.
I respect your perspective but we donât agree. No big deal. Cowboy never showed up.
Conorâs a good fighter but this was not a fight. I donât feel compelled to act like it was to prop up Conorâs âperformanceâ. It was a waste of time and didnât show us anything as SAS said.
I don't see how you can disagree though unless it's just pig headedness
What youâre arguing can be said for just about every single fight that is finished with strikes. You sound like someone who doesnât really understand, no offense but it sounds like my wife watching the fights and going âwhy did he just let the other guy punch him?â
If I hit you with a straight right hand cleanâŚItâs much easier to hit you with my other strikes correct? Hooks and big power shotsâŚbecause youâre stunned and dazed, I wouldnât land those big power shots out of the gate, youâd defend them. Thatâs what happened to CowboyâŚhe was stunned right out of the gate, very possibly with the knee/thigh and took another 3 hard shots to the face after.
Youâre acting like Cowboy just stood there with his hands down and let Conor punch him for no reasonâŚthatâs not what happened, Cowboy was blasted and couldnât recoverâŚit is what happens in pretty much all tko finishes.
Now really look at it,âŚthey were clinched for maybe 15 seconds or so, youâre acting like it was an eternity, like minutes going by with Conor just smacking him at will with no defenseâŚ15 secondsâŚthatâs not a long time, the whole situation happened very fast.
It wasnât that âCowboy didnât show upâ it was Cowboy got hit hard earlyâŚthatâs it. People want to diminish what Conor did by saying stuff like this, âCowboy quitâ, âCowboy didnât show up to fightââŚno, Cowboy just got his ass kicked the endâŚit wasnât about what Cowboy didnât do, it is about what Conor did do.
Talk about pig-headedness.
I guess you think Nate is pig-headed for calling the fight fake?
Cowboy didnât throw any strikes. This was his âNo masâ moment in his career. Youâre just refusing to recognize it.
Either way there was no fight. Cowboy put up zero resistance. Surely you can see that if you werenât already convinced the great Conor beat him up badly in an epic battle.
You're completely missing it and factually incorrect
As soon as they separated Cowboy threw a head kick, that was a muscle memory strike because he was hurt. Dan Henderson would have thrown an overhand right for example.
Conor neutralized and damaged him almost instantly, Iâm sorry you canât see that. Thereâs something psychologically stopping you from looking at this objectivelyâŚ
âCowboy put up zero resistanceââŚâif you werenât already convinced the great Conor beat him up badly in an epic battleâ Saying shit like this is evidence. Iâm in no way swinging from Conorâs nuts, I donât watch fights with a WWE mentality, I donât have a âfavorite fighterâ or any of that shit.
Cowboy just got beat, fair and squareâŚwhy is that so hard for you to accept?
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Damn how hard is it to understand he got fucked up? He didnt quit he got his nose broke and was stunned/panicked then seconds later took a head kick then seconds later again massive bombs by one the hardest hitting fighters in the sport today. Â
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He didnt quit he got smashed....and that's coming for a guy who was rooting for cowboy.
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Hernadez is just being a bitch because he got worked by Cowboy and then Cowboy gets worked by connor like that make him look bad.Â
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Did he come out the closet?
Vale_Tudo_83 - Damn how hard is it to understand he got fucked up? He didnt quit he got his nose broke and was stunned/panicked then seconds later took a head kick then seconds later again massive bombs by one the hardest hitting fighters in the sport today.
He didnt quit he got smashed....and that's coming for a guy who was rooting for cowboy.
Hernadez is just being a bitch because he got worked by Cowboy and then Cowboy gets worked by connor like that make him look bad.
But cowboy came out and said his nose wasn't broken.
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ScreenName22 - Hernandez would starch Conor
Lol. That's just a retarded thing to say.
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The Lion King - KickPunchr - KnockoutThoughts - ScreenName22 - Hernandez would starch Conor
100%. A nightmare matchup for the hype job. Too much grind for the overrated leprechaun. People still believe the hype..smh Hernandez would drown him. Wins everywhere, both standup and grappling. They fought 2 different versions of Cowboy. Hernandez fought the Dad Cerrone, a fucking beast, a stone cold assassin. Conor fought Cow Cerrone, a soft squishy marshmallow who came in with no heart and quit. Two completely different versions of the same man.. The second guy I had never seen before till that night he fought Conor. Tendencies don't just change overnight, and a gunslinger doesn't just become gunshy from one fight to the next. $$$Dana$$$ Happened.
McG beat Holloway, Alvarez, Poirier, Aldo, Mendes etc and you think Hernandez would take him out? For real?
If Conor signed to fight Hernandez these same clowns would be crying about how the UFC is giving him an easy match up lol
Oh 100%! Let's see if I can do this too hahaha. Something like... "They are sheltering him from the 170 divisions true elite by giving him a guy who appears legit bc of his padded record but has never beaten an elite fighter!!"
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KnockoutThoughts - I agree with him. Alex is a stud, Cowboy came with grit and dog in him to break Alex down. He came to destroy Alex. With Conor he came out like a little kitty cat afraid to engage the leprechaun, or cause any harm whatsoever. It was a fraud of a fight.. there was no fight at all in Cowboy. Paid off. That's not the Cowboy I grew up watching.. he QUIT.
Dude just quit it man. Every post of yours is just long in the tooth about Conor. Alex was a nobody, no spectacle, opponent for cowboy.
I feel like UFC wanted Hernandez to win that fight btw. That was a big name fight compared to his previous outings.
With that being said, you clearly are a keyboard warrior who's never been in a real fight.
Fighting is 50% mental, 25% skill and 25% luck, IMO.
Helluvah Guy - KnockoutThoughts - I agree with him. Alex is a stud, Cowboy came with grit and dog in him to break Alex down. He came to destroy Alex. With Conor he came out like a little kitty cat afraid to engage the leprechaun, or cause any harm whatsoever. It was a fraud of a fight.. there was no fight at all in Cowboy. Paid off. That's not the Cowboy I grew up watching.. he QUIT.
Dude just quit it man. Every post of yours is just long in the tooth about Conor. Alex was a nobody, no spectacle, opponent for cowboy.
I feel like UFC wanted Hernandez to win that fight btw. That was a big name fight compared to his previous outings.
With that being said, you clearly are a keyboard warrior who's never been in a real fight.
Fighting is 50% mental, 25% skill and 25% luck, IMO.
Stfu with your nagging. Alex Hernandez would KO Conor. Cowboy was on a 2 fight KO slide when Conor chose him. That's not the same Cowboy Alex fought. Cowboy was fresh off of one of his biggest wins when he fought Alex. Two completely different mindsets. You say fighting is 50% mental, well he purposely chose the most mentally broken version of Cowboy to fight. Conor is a coward for choosing a guy on a slide instead of the multiple options that were available on win streaks. Now Dana and the UFC, as they typically do to protect their hypejob and justify his easy road to a title, have matched up most of the 155lb division to tie up the threats to the Fraud. Suddenly Charles Oliveira is matched up with Kevin Lee, Dan Hooker is matched up with Paul Felder, Tony is tied up with Khabib, and Conor chooses Cowboy over Justin Gaethje? Bitch shit. Gaethje had just KO'd Cowboy.. Mentally Conor didn't want a challenge. He was full of doubt, or was it Dana who doubted him?
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Goddamn this thread ridiculous.Â
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thegreatone287 - Vale_Tudo_83 - Damn how hard is it to understand he got fucked up? He didnt quit he got his nose broke and was stunned/panicked then seconds later took a head kick then seconds later again massive bombs by one the hardest hitting fighters in the sport today.
He didnt quit he got smashed....and that's coming for a guy who was rooting for cowboy.
Hernadez is just being a bitch because he got worked by Cowboy and then Cowboy gets worked by connor like that make him look bad.
But cowboy came out and said his nose wasn't broken.
Looks like your right, just looked it up. That's what I had hear on the JRE when he was talking to Edgar. I still stand by my post he was overwhelmed right off the bat.