Cmon, fess up, along with your rationale. 
I do...but how does last night change anything?? That was a massive mismatch. No different than Fedor beating Lindland or Choi
T Bag - I do...but how does last night change anything?? That was a massive mismatch. No different than Fedor beating Lindland or Choi
lmao! only a fedor fan could come up with stupid shit like that
Yes so comparable to fedora beating a much smaller man in lindland...and bonnar is clearly just like hmc...
Great comparisons. 
Sorry. My phone corrected to fedora. No offense meant.
WatchinMMA -T Bag - I do...but how does last night change anything?? That was a massive mismatch. No different than Fedor beating Lindland or Choilmao! only a fedor fan could come up with stupid shit like that
I disagree, it's different than those two fights. Bonnar was never finished ever besides from being stopped due to cuts, which he protested. With one knee Anderson changed all that. He basically was playing around, backing himself on the fence, with a guy that outweighs him by a good 25 pounds. Fedor was never so far above in competition that he Basically was making it look like she wasn't even trying.
T Bag - I do...but how does last night change anything?? That was a massive mismatch. No different than Fedor beating Lindland or Choi
Bonnar has never been stopped like that before. Look at the grueling wars Bonnar has been in through his entire career and tell me that guy isn't one of the toughest guys to ever step foot in the Octagon.
Now tell me how Anderson can't be the greatest of all time when he finished Bonnar with a knee to the body. This happened after he was LETTING Bonnar hit him and standing in front of Bonnar with his hands down. It's not as if Bonnar is known for having no punching power.
After that fight, I have no problem saying that Anderson is the greatest Mixed Martial Artist in the history of the sport. It wasn't the fact that he beat Stephan Bonnar. It was HOW he beat Stephan Bonnar that made this win special.
Phil Baroni and Drake called to say:
ANDERSON SILVA IS THE BEST EVA!!!
Phil Baroni and Drake called to say:
ANDERSON SILVA IS THE BEST EVA!!!
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UGCTT_LnPninja -Yes so comparable to fedora beating a much smaller man in lindland...and bonnar is clearly just like hmc...
Great comparisons.
Small differences in size are far less important than significant speef/fast twich differences. The only physical difference this forum seems to care about are related to size. Anderson's natural physical reflexes and speed are a thousand times more valuable than Bonnar's extra 20 pounds of a weight or 2 inches of height in a plodding, slow twitch dominant body.
It's the same thing I was saying about Fedor for 10 years. Sure he was giving up a bit of size and people on this forum wanted to award him a purple heart for doing it, but his massive speed advantage was far, far more important than a measly 10 pounds or two inches of height.
The fight last night was a mismatch because of that, not because of Bonnar being 20 pounds heavier. I've been saying for a month that Bonnar had ZERO chance of winning this fight. The size only matters if Bonnar can impose his will physically and get Anderson down--he can't because he's too fucking plodding. It's not his fault, but thats the physical limiatation he has to deal with. Might as well matchup Usain Bolt against Tom Brady in a footrace.
easedel - Never have and never will.
You can't have a GOAT in a sport with multiple weight classes. It just doesn't work with each class having different caliber of fighters ( example, MW been considered weak over the years, LHW was strong, etc etc ).
So really it makes no sense in having GOAT unless you talk about GOAT@MW.
so ali was known as the GOAT of HW? lol! PS fedor will not be "GOAT HW" for long
Fedor Emelianenko
Warrenpeace - Bonnar is a slow, lumbering LHW. Let's not try and act like he us a world beater.
He is a slower version of Forrest.
If you didn't expect the quickness of Anderson to overwhelm Bonnar, you prob don't watch much mma.
I was not shocked at what Anderson was doing in the least. There are too many unathletic fighters at the top levels of mma.
The shocking thing to me is the lack of truly great athletes at the top level of mma. In the next few years the way the sport is evolving, gone will be the days of a slow, lumbering LHW getting a crack at a fight like this in the first place.
People dont get this.
they still think that because Bonnar's fingertip to fingertip measurement was 4 inches longer and he's 20 pounds more that Silva deserves a purple heart for beating him LOLOL
T Bag -Warrenpeace - Bonnar is a slow, lumbering LHW. Let's not try and act like he us a world beater.
He is a slower version of Forrest.
If you didn't expect the quickness of Anderson to overwhelm Bonnar, you prob don't watch much mma.
I was not shocked at what Anderson was doing in the least. There are too many unathletic fighters at the top levels of mma.
The shocking thing to me is the lack of truly great athletes at the top level of mma. In the next few years the way the sport is evolving, gone will be the days of a slow, lumbering LHW getting a crack at a fight like this in the first place.
People dont get this.
they still think that because Bonnar's fingertip to fingertip measurement was 4 inches longer and he's 20 pounds more that Silva deserves a purple heart for beating him LOLOL
No one thinks that.
It's HOW he did it, Brostein.
I still think Sakuraba did more impressive things than Silva, never mind the legacies of guys like Fedor and Hendo. The most spectacular/unique/outstanding fighter of all time perhaps but to say he's "unquestionably the greatest of all time" like Goldberg did seems ridiculous. Not bashing, I'm a big, big fan but except for Hendo, which absolutely GOAT contenders has he ever fought?
You made some great points in response tbag. That said it was still an idiotic comparison.lol
I'm not sure. At some point Anderson's accomplishments have to pass Fedor's. even the most adamant Fedor supporter has to realize this. When is/was that moment? When Anderson beat Chael? When he beat Vitor? When he goes on to beat Bones? Whenever that moment is, it can't have been after beating a ten to one underdog that was tailer made for him.
For me, I don't know. I have to let last nights events settle first. It's too easy to get caught up in what just happened.
I will say that was amazing though. I had a $12,000 Hail Mary parlay going with Bonnar's name on it, but still found myself in awe cheering for Anderson.
T Bag - I do...but how does last night change anything?? That was a massive mismatch. No different than Fedor beating Lindland or Choi
Hmm. Bonnar = one of the biggest guys in the weightclass above Anderson; known for his epic toughness and being impossible to finish; blackbelt in BJJ; no one has ever had an easy fight with him except Lyoto in Bonnar's 5th fight.
Lindland = two weightclasses below Fedor, suspect chin, terrible standup, famous for being tapped twice in one fight.
HMC = giant with zero MMA experience whose MMA record is 2-3 with the wins being over Jose Canseco (who was beating him before injuring his own knee) and a comedian.
Even then in both fights Fedor had trouble and got busted up, whereas Anderson looked like Bruce Lee and needed exactly one strike to finish a guy specifically known for being impossible to stop on anything but cuts.
AWESOME comparison.
"Whenever that moment is, it can't have been after beating a ten to one underdog that was tailer made for him."
You don't think that the performances themselves should be taken into consideration, beyond just looking at the rankings and W/L? No one else ever has shown themselves capable of doing anything like what Anderson did to Bonnar. Bonnar could fight another 5 years against nothing but the best and I doubt you'd ever see something like that again.
Also, personally, I don't think an enormous BJJ blackbelt with legendary toughness and a recent determination to use takedowns and grappling to win fights is, by any stretch of the imagination, "tailor-made" for a 202lb striker routinely accused of having "terrible" takedown defense.