BJJ is simple. Why is is so hard to learn?

Every question I've ever had is answered so simply with such obvious solutions. (Obvious once you've felt them.)

It has me wondering, what is the smoke that blinds me?

It's the way it's taught.

Setree - Every question I've ever had is answered so simply with such obvious solutions. (Obvious once you've felt them.)

It has me wondering, what is the smoke that blinds me?

Knowing is different from experience doing. Since we aren't performing techniques on an inanimate object (unless you're rolling with me), you have to make constant impromptu adjustments in your posture, direction, weight, pressure, etc. That stuff comes from experience. Phone Post

I don't agree with the premise. BJJ is quite complex - it is based around movements that often involve most or all of your limbs plus your hips and other parts of your body doing very different things at the same time, and involves endlessly developing counters to counters to counters. It also requires a great deal of precision and timing in movements and is often quite counter-intuitive.

Also, it's not really a question of it being "hard." It's hard against people who have spent longer than you doing it. Pretty much the same as any game or sport.

Mount escape? Just get up

Side Control Escape? Just get up

Its simple guys.. really..

I think the ultimate example of this is just plain ole regular boxing. You've to just two gloves and that's all you can use, should be able to master it in a couple months right? People devote their whole lives to it. BJJ has more limbs and sometimes clothing to manipulate.

Judo Scott - Mount escape? Just get up

Side Control Escape? Just get up

Its simple guys.. really..

truly 3 dimensional thinking. all the time i wasted...

pachanga - I don't agree with the premise. BJJ is quite complex - it is based around movements that often involve most or all of your limbs plus your hips and other parts of your body doing very different things at the same time, and involves endlessly developing counters to counters to counters. It also requires a great deal of precision and timing in movements and is often quite counter-intuitive.

Also, it's not really a question of it being "hard." It's hard against people who have spent longer than you doing it. Pretty much the same as any game or sport.


i agree with this

pachanga - I don't agree with the premise. BJJ is quite complex - it is based around movements that often involve most or all of your limbs plus your hips and other parts of your body doing very different things at the same time, and involves endlessly developing counters to counters to counters. It also requires a great deal of precision and timing in movements and is often quite counter-intuitive.

Also, it's not really a question of it being "hard." It's hard against people who have spent longer than you doing it. Pretty much the same as any game or sport.


i agree with this

It only becomes simple after a decade of experience Phone Post

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idk i have been training 8 years and often have people make me feel like its day one.

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If you look at it from a scientific perspective, it's simple...like any art that truly works, yet it's difficult versus someone who knows what you are doing.

90% of BJJ fundamental techniques are easy to do against guys that don't know any groundfighting or non-wrestlers.

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idk i have been training 8 years and often have people make me feel like its day one.

well, clearly you need to train 2 more years. duh.

see, simple.

The techniques may be simple to learn. But if simply knowing the techniques was all you needed then everyone would have a black belt. You have to be able to apply the techniques in live rolling, competition, and self defense situations. Phone Post

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pachanga - I don't agree with the premise. BJJ is quite complex - it is based around movements that often involve most or all of your limbs plus your hips and other parts of your body doing very different things at the same time, and involves endlessly developing counters to counters to counters. It also requires a great deal of precision and timing in movements and is often quite counter-intuitive.

Also, it's not really a question of it being "hard." It's hard against people who have spent longer than you doing it. Pretty much the same as any game or sport.




Great description. Many movements of Bjj are counter intuative, and then they are not... And that's when i start enjoying it!!

It is also based on the most effective way in which you learn. I struggle to recall techniques without constant drilling.
Sometimes my instructor tells me to do a certain thing with a certain body part, and I struggle to make it do it despite understanding full well what he is asking me to do. It is infuriating but amazing when you "get it".

I agree with Pachanga.

I don't think Bjj is hard in terms unlearnable. It's hard to perform it against people who have alot of experience and ability. But any game or sport is difficult for those who are relatively beginners.

Bjj is especially challenging for those who never done a physical activity like it before. It is a whole new world for such a person. It is more or less a matter of getting ones body use to moving in such a way that fits Bjj.

But once one gets past that familiarity stage than Bjj is relatively easy.

Incidently, I've noticed, over the years, that women seem to pick up Bjj quicker than men. I think this is because women, generally speaking, are much more in tune with their own bodies.

I've seen rooms filled with blackbelts amazed by the the most simple of techniques or strategies.

Daily, I ask myself: "Self, you're a smart guy; why didn't you think of that?"

It just makes me wonder if there is something that stands between me and the obvious.