For everyone who wasted their time with BJJ, would you go back in time and take Sambo if offered?

Sambo in Russia, sure. Sambo in the US? Nah

I have trained both Sambo & BJJ and have high rank in both. Both arts are effective for self defense and fighting . It is a mixture of schools and the individual that makes it work or not. I have found killers and wimps in both

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KC has some good sambo, the first American championships was held there and they’ve produced a couple legitimate fila world champions

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Go to Brighton Beach Brooklyn - there are a few guys who train Sambo who are no fucking joke

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Indeed, it’s full of gangsters and they support the good athletes

For streetfighting I think Steve O rolled without striking with a women in Brazil who was a black belt???

I’d pay to see people who think they’re tough go in the cage. Kinda like mayhems show.but make

I always enjoy watching people get humbled

It’s a glorious moment.

A great way to show off each martial art andb
With 100% live opponents.

Everyone wins

You realize that grappling is grappling and that all grappling arts train takedowns? You act like bjj is always the guard. It is not. I wrestled d1 and my second bjj coach was hell on the feet. He did things awkwardly and had a hell of a clinch game. He had trained with Greco world champions that outweighed him. His goal was to get it to the ground and he always did one way or another. At Tinguinha’s school we trained throws daily. How many sambo leg locks have won UFC matches vs bjj subs?

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Do you think its to the level that it is in Russia?

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Yeah we have a Greco kid who competed for the national team and hes a bjj purple belt. Kid is terrifying lol

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I personally find it insulting when you just emphasize the Greek part of the Wrestling and leave the Italian out of it.

Greco-Roman, thanks.

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Yes because they are from Russia. I trained with only Russians for a few years. Those years were miles ahead of the American group I Initially trained Sambo with. I have to imagine anywhere in America where you have a cluster of Russians you could find legit Sambo

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Amazing! Im probably 2 hours from there. Ill check it out !

Is it Sambo Judo club?

the days of BJJ schools teaching flopping to your ass are long gone Every BJJ school will tell u to try to get top position in a fight.But if ur on bottem u know what to do in any and all positions But there are times when u fight a bigger better fighter But BJJ will teach u what to do in any position And also any BJJ school will teach u how to break a fall and not get slammed.I trained at Serras for 7 years and we had guys from all arts train there including many good wrestlers who developed into good BJJers Ive also seen very good wrestlers come in thinking they will dominat first day and get their ass kicked ( every single time ) But if good wrestler comes in with a good attitude they will be welcomed and do well.Personally I hated rolling with a good wrestler even though i came from wrestling background

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Yeah check out “3 Dollar Bill.” Be sure to ask for Big Rich. He’s the head instructor.

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I still remember watching Royce Gracie change the world of martial arts.

A absolute iconic moment.

If that wasn’t proof of pure fighting at 176lb Brazilian destroyed everyone.

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also most important thing i was tought in BJJ is awareness.I saw Jack post a BJJ guy will get slammed into the concrete Well Im from NY and we have great BJJ teachers and I can gaurentee 100 percent of my teamates where Ive trained if fought on concrete it would be the first thing they took into account.I leanred a lot about BJJ from Matt Serra and his teachers all super.Not only BJJ techniques but why and most important situation awareness.I can gaurentee any purple belt or higher is 100 percent more versed than the average JOe And to say BJJ does not work in a fight just shows hes never been in a fight.Knowing BJJ can save your ass and destroy the average Joe That said first thing learned is no matter how goods ur BJJ is or how bad u think u are u can still get ur ass kicked But Ill take my chances with BJJ and good wrestling.also most BJJ schools incorperate good leglocks and escapes Ive also NEVER seen a guy from my school lose a street fight as a matter of fact every single one i saw from my BJJ school and or wrestling team prior absolutely destroyed the average meathead Joe

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also to call BJJ a MCDojo from your computer is pretty weak.Some fucking bad asses train BJJ

No shit but it’s only a small piece of the puzzle in current MMA. Having basic sub defence is a prerequisite at high levels of MMA, but otherwise the role of BJJ’s importance in MMA is diminishing.

And from a hand to hand self defence point of view it’s also only a small part of a much bigger picture as well. With BJJ alone someone would still stand a good chance of getting their ass handed to them in a self defence altercation.

Judging by your post you have never been to a half decent Bjj school and never rolled with a good bjjer.ive trained at Renzos and Serras and every stident is versed from all positions in a fight .it’s laughable u think s bjjer is just going to get slammed on concrete.to say that proved u have never entered a bjj school.no we don’t punch in bjj practice but we are aware of situations we’re u can punch or be punched a good bjjrr is also versed in good wrestling and good awareness and street smarts.

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When I trained there many years ago it was Greco and Sambo-located in a church. I was training under David Rudman who would bring me there