JoeDavolasRoundhouseKick -TwentyNineTwentyEight - I hate GOAT talk in a Sport that is so young but, if there is one it's Fedor. 10 years undefeated as an undersized HW who fought so many Legends and finished them. I don't know if I'll ever see a Champ do that again as long as I live, especially at HW.Spot on.
This.
Osbot -BreakALegAndy! -Carogan -BreakALegAndy! -CrazyPope -BreakALegAndy! -Hogzilla - Gsp is the only "undisputed" fighter who hasn't been popped for cheating that is on the goat convo.Fedor came to the US and lost to guys like Big Foot Silva and a much smaller and older Dan Henderson.
Silva lost a bunch and cheated twice
Jones is a cheat and a joke now.
Mini mouse? Lolz
GSP is a two division undisputed champ who dominated everyone on route to the all time consecutive rounds won record. He dominated Hughes twice by the way… And age was not the reason, he was just a much more versatile and superior fighter.
GSP is a greaser who has avoided the fights that put you into GOAT conversation.
By fights you mean Anderson Silva I’m assuming, what other fights did he avoid? And you seriously think he’s not even in the conversation? lmao
He avoided that Big Rigg rematch in a fight he should have lost. And yes, ducking Silva.
Then dropping the 185 title right after winning it because he was too small to defend it. The whole way that went down was chicken shit on his part.
Moran's gonna moran.
At what point should a fighter choose to retire? He didn't fucking "avoid" Hendricks. He had been on an epic 9 year run and was getting burned out. He had already been planning to stop fighting.
Never mind that Hendricks refused to do the additional drug testing after originally agreeing to do it. GSP had been citing the lax drug testing for years as something he didn't agree with and Hendricks' actions were easily part of the reason for wanting to stop.
And you can also argue that GSP was in a close fight with Hendricks because he was getting bored and losing interest too...yet he still managed to win.
But again...when is a fighter supposed to choose his retirement? When BreakALegAndy says so?!?!? Fuck off.
p.s. - GSP was at ringside to challenge Anderson Silva when Silva stank up the joint against Demian Maia. Silva's retarded antics and the UFC subsequently pulling the fight are what cost that fight. GSP has never ducked a fight in his life. He's always fought who the UFC put in front of him...until now.
So fuck what "BreakALegAndy" wants.
Lol @ thinking GSP was ever going to challenge Silva. Dumb ass
GSP was never going to fight Silva. He wouldn't even have returned has Bisping not won the belt. He saw his only opportunity to win a fight at 185 and took it against an aging fighter he knew he could beat from previous training.
He even lied about wanting to defend the belt just to get the fight, then suddenly vacates. That is class A chickenshit by GSP. At least defend it once, or try to
On a scale of 1 - Trump, how retarded are you.
He is the opposite of retarded. He is spot on.
Shame to see all the GSP Nuthuggers hugging his nuts in unison.
lionsoul -Osbot -BreakALegAndy! -Carogan -BreakALegAndy! -CrazyPope -BreakALegAndy! -Hogzilla - Gsp is the only "undisputed" fighter who hasn't been popped for cheating that is on the goat convo.Fedor came to the US and lost to guys like Big Foot Silva and a much smaller and older Dan Henderson.
Silva lost a bunch and cheated twice
Jones is a cheat and a joke now.
Mini mouse? Lolz
GSP is a two division undisputed champ who dominated everyone on route to the all time consecutive rounds won record. He dominated Hughes twice by the way… And age was not the reason, he was just a much more versatile and superior fighter.
GSP is a greaser who has avoided the fights that put you into GOAT conversation.
By fights you mean Anderson Silva I’m assuming, what other fights did he avoid? And you seriously think he’s not even in the conversation? lmao
He avoided that Big Rigg rematch in a fight he should have lost. And yes, ducking Silva.
Then dropping the 185 title right after winning it because he was too small to defend it. The whole way that went down was chicken shit on his part.
Moran's gonna moran.
At what point should a fighter choose to retire? He didn't fucking "avoid" Hendricks. He had been on an epic 9 year run and was getting burned out. He had already been planning to stop fighting.
Never mind that Hendricks refused to do the additional drug testing after originally agreeing to do it. GSP had been citing the lax drug testing for years as something he didn't agree with and Hendricks' actions were easily part of the reason for wanting to stop.
And you can also argue that GSP was in a close fight with Hendricks because he was getting bored and losing interest too...yet he still managed to win.
But again...when is a fighter supposed to choose his retirement? When BreakALegAndy says so?!?!? Fuck off.
p.s. - GSP was at ringside to challenge Anderson Silva when Silva stank up the joint against Demian Maia. Silva's retarded antics and the UFC subsequently pulling the fight are what cost that fight. GSP has never ducked a fight in his life. He's always fought who the UFC put in front of him...until now.
So fuck what "BreakALegAndy" wants.
Lol @ thinking GSP was ever going to challenge Silva. Dumb ass
GSP was never going to fight Silva. He wouldn't even have returned has Bisping not won the belt. He saw his only opportunity to win a fight at 185 and took it against an aging fighter he knew he could beat from previous training.
He even lied about wanting to defend the belt just to get the fight, then suddenly vacates. That is class A chickenshit by GSP. At least defend it once, or try to
On a scale of 1 - Trump, how retarded are you.
He is the opposite of retarded. He is spot on.
Shame to see all the GSP Nuthuggers hugging his nuts in unison.
I am not a GSP fan and I would rather he just stay retired but he has my vote for goat.
lol OP, you might be a good guy, but your reasoning for the argument is shite.
Brockback Mountain - Jon jones is the goat.He has never really lost.
DC would be considered the goat except that Jon jones exists.
He lost tothe anti-doping test TWICE. He’s absolutely not the GOAT. Maybe the GOAT ped user.
Osbot -BreakALegAndy! -Osbot -BreakALegAndy! -Osbot -BreakALegAndy! -Carogan -BreakALegAndy! -CrazyPope -BreakALegAndy! -Hogzilla - Gsp is the only "undisputed" fighter who hasn't been popped for cheating that is on the goat convo.Fedor came to the US and lost to guys like Big Foot Silva and a much smaller and older Dan Henderson.
Silva lost a bunch and cheated twice
Jones is a cheat and a joke now.
Mini mouse? Lolz
GSP is a two division undisputed champ who dominated everyone on route to the all time consecutive rounds won record. He dominated Hughes twice by the way… And age was not the reason, he was just a much more versatile and superior fighter.
GSP is a greaser who has avoided the fights that put you into GOAT conversation.
By fights you mean Anderson Silva I’m assuming, what other fights did he avoid? And you seriously think he’s not even in the conversation? lmao
He avoided that Big Rigg rematch in a fight he should have lost. And yes, ducking Silva.
Then dropping the 185 title right after winning it because he was too small to defend it. The whole way that went down was chicken shit on his part.
Moran's gonna moran.
At what point should a fighter choose to retire? He didn't fucking "avoid" Hendricks. He had been on an epic 9 year run and was getting burned out. He had already been planning to stop fighting.
Never mind that Hendricks refused to do the additional drug testing after originally agreeing to do it. GSP had been citing the lax drug testing for years as something he didn't agree with and Hendricks' actions were easily part of the reason for wanting to stop.
And you can also argue that GSP was in a close fight with Hendricks because he was getting bored and losing interest too...yet he still managed to win.
But again...when is a fighter supposed to choose his retirement? When BreakALegAndy says so?!?!? Fuck off.
p.s. - GSP was at ringside to challenge Anderson Silva when Silva stank up the joint against Demian Maia. Silva's retarded antics and the UFC subsequently pulling the fight are what cost that fight. GSP has never ducked a fight in his life. He's always fought who the UFC put in front of him...until now.
So fuck what "BreakALegAndy" wants.
Lol @ thinking GSP was ever going to challenge Silva. Dumb ass
GSP was never going to fight Silva. He wouldn't even have returned has Bisping not won the belt. He saw his only opportunity to win a fight at 185 and took it against an aging fighter he knew he could beat from previous training.
He even lied about wanting to defend the belt just to get the fight, then suddenly vacates. That is class A chickenshit by GSP. At least defend it once, or try to
On a scale of 1 - Trump, how retarded are you.
Trump
So the space balls equivalent of ludicrous speed, where speed means retarded.
Gotcha.
Honestly, I feel like you are a noob and your favorite fighters and Conor McGregor and Rowdy Ronda Rousey.
Nothing wrong with that, but I think it's true.
Yea, I've not got a history for shitting on both Conor and Ronda as PR constructions since the moment they blew up. Nice join date by the way. I remember the first time I watched a UFC, in 1994, UFC 2, on VHS.
Come at me shitlord.
shitlord?
I hope GiGA sees this
Osbot -BreakALegAndy! -Osbot -BreakALegAndy! -Osbot -BreakALegAndy! -Carogan -BreakALegAndy! -CrazyPope -BreakALegAndy! -Hogzilla - Gsp is the only "undisputed" fighter who hasn't been popped for cheating that is on the goat convo.Fedor came to the US and lost to guys like Big Foot Silva and a much smaller and older Dan Henderson.
Silva lost a bunch and cheated twice
Jones is a cheat and a joke now.
Mini mouse? Lolz
GSP is a two division undisputed champ who dominated everyone on route to the all time consecutive rounds won record. He dominated Hughes twice by the way… And age was not the reason, he was just a much more versatile and superior fighter.
GSP is a greaser who has avoided the fights that put you into GOAT conversation.
By fights you mean Anderson Silva I’m assuming, what other fights did he avoid? And you seriously think he’s not even in the conversation? lmao
He avoided that Big Rigg rematch in a fight he should have lost. And yes, ducking Silva.
Then dropping the 185 title right after winning it because he was too small to defend it. The whole way that went down was chicken shit on his part.
Moran's gonna moran.
At what point should a fighter choose to retire? He didn't fucking "avoid" Hendricks. He had been on an epic 9 year run and was getting burned out. He had already been planning to stop fighting.
Never mind that Hendricks refused to do the additional drug testing after originally agreeing to do it. GSP had been citing the lax drug testing for years as something he didn't agree with and Hendricks' actions were easily part of the reason for wanting to stop.
And you can also argue that GSP was in a close fight with Hendricks because he was getting bored and losing interest too...yet he still managed to win.
But again...when is a fighter supposed to choose his retirement? When BreakALegAndy says so?!?!? Fuck off.
p.s. - GSP was at ringside to challenge Anderson Silva when Silva stank up the joint against Demian Maia. Silva's retarded antics and the UFC subsequently pulling the fight are what cost that fight. GSP has never ducked a fight in his life. He's always fought who the UFC put in front of him...until now.
So fuck what "BreakALegAndy" wants.
Lol @ thinking GSP was ever going to challenge Silva. Dumb ass
GSP was never going to fight Silva. He wouldn't even have returned has Bisping not won the belt. He saw his only opportunity to win a fight at 185 and took it against an aging fighter he knew he could beat from previous training.
He even lied about wanting to defend the belt just to get the fight, then suddenly vacates. That is class A chickenshit by GSP. At least defend it once, or try to
On a scale of 1 - Trump, how retarded are you.
Trump
So the space balls equivalent of ludicrous speed, where speed means retarded.
Gotcha.
Honestly, I feel like you are a noob and your favorite fighters and Conor McGregor and Rowdy Ronda Rousey.
Nothing wrong with that, but I think it's true.
Yea, I've not got a history for shitting on both Conor and Ronda as PR constructions since the moment they blew up. Nice join date by the way. I remember the first time I watched a UFC, in 1994, UFC 2, on VHS.
Come at me shitlord.
You've probably got a history of handing out free BJs.
At absolute worse, GSP is number 3 all time. I have him at 2.
RKing85 -At absolute worse, GSP is number 3 all time. I have him at 2.
Who do you have above him?
Before the Bisping fight... plenty of folks have shit on GSP... said he was barely Top 10. Especially given that he essentially left the sport before they started really testing.
The Bisping win (while his most exciting fight in a decade) doesn't somehow catapult him into some iconic status.
He basically sat out and handpicked the moment he would try to fight the MW championship... when a guy (Bisping - an aging above average MW) who would likely lose to the 5 other top guys amazingly became champ.
Look what happened to Bisping in his fight following GSP. It was great coming back after all that time... but you can't give him some kind of "Championship" credit... especially given how he ducked Anderson all these years.
Again robbie lawler,woodley are the same age as gsp.
Maia is older,wonderboy is only 2 years younger all these guys who were elite in the same era and around he didnt fight.
He didnt,really beat hendricks. Like 18 out of 20 judges had it for johnny.
There was no cleanout. As soon as the division got stacked he left.
lionsoul -Before the Bisping fight... plenty of folks have shit on GSP... said he was barely Top 10. Especially given that he essentially left the sport before they started really testing.
The Bisping win (while his most exciting fight in a decade) doesn't somehow catapult him into some iconic status.
He basically sat out and handpicked the moment he would try to fight the MW championship... when a guy (Bisping - an aging above average MW) who would likely lose to the 5 other top guys amazingly became champ.
Look what happened to Bisping in his fight following GSP. It was great coming back after all that time... but you can't give him some kind of "Championship" credit... especially given how he ducked Anderson all these years.
It really is an odd thing, these mental gymnastics you’ve done for years to deny the obvious greatness of GSP because he beat your favorite fighter.
Canooke -lionsoul -Before the Bisping fight... plenty of folks have shit on GSP... said he was barely Top 10. Especially given that he essentially left the sport before they started really testing.
The Bisping win (while his most exciting fight in a decade) doesn't somehow catapult him into some iconic status.
He basically sat out and handpicked the moment he would try to fight the MW championship... when a guy (Bisping - an aging above average MW) who would likely lose to the 5 other top guys amazingly became champ.
Look what happened to Bisping in his fight following GSP. It was great coming back after all that time... but you can't give him some kind of "Championship" credit... especially given how he ducked Anderson all these years.
It really is an odd thing, these mental gymnastics you’ve done for years to deny the obvious greatness of GSP because he beat your favorite fighter.
He beat Fedor?
lionsoul -Canooke -lionsoul -Before the Bisping fight... plenty of folks have shit on GSP... said he was barely Top 10. Especially given that he essentially left the sport before they started really testing.
The Bisping win (while his most exciting fight in a decade) doesn't somehow catapult him into some iconic status.
He basically sat out and handpicked the moment he would try to fight the MW championship... when a guy (Bisping - an aging above average MW) who would likely lose to the 5 other top guys amazingly became champ.
Look what happened to Bisping in his fight following GSP. It was great coming back after all that time... but you can't give him some kind of "Championship" credit... especially given how he ducked Anderson all these years.
It really is an odd thing, these mental gymnastics you’ve done for years to deny the obvious greatness of GSP because he beat your favorite fighter.
He beat Fedor?
You like Fedor better than Penn? You must REALLY like Fedor then.
^^^ Yup... Although I love Penn as well.
Kyle Burkle sounds like the name a convicted pedophile might have
kyleburkle - Again robbie lawler,woodley are the same age as gsp.Maia is older,wonderboy is only 2 years younger all these guys who were elite in the same era and around he didnt fight.
He didnt,really beat hendricks. Like 18 out of 20 judges had it for johnny.
There was no cleanout. As soon as the division got stacked he left.
You’re talking about age like everyone comes into the sport and has been competing at the same level for some same amount of time, everyone knows that’s not the case.
You say Maia is older, but by the time he made his UFC debut GSP had already climbed up the rankings and fought Matt Hughes not once but twice, this was back in the days when a contender lost he had to string together some wins, GSP fought 5 times before facing Hughes for their second fight, beat him, lost to Serra and THEN Maia made his debut months afterwards.
At this point in time GSP fought one #1 contender after another after another and so on for 7 years, preparing for 5 round fights. Again, this was back when only title fights were 5 rounds, all other fights were 3 no matter if they headlined or not. Most of Maia’s career was spent preparing for 3 round fights, GSP’s was preparing for 5.
So that’s just one example of how age doesn’t paint the whole picture, there’s lots of variables.
Clearing out should be considered as fighting all contenders until there is no more fights that logically make sense, but have to be made anyway. In my opinion Dan Hardy was the first fight that didn’t make tons of sense but happened anyway, he had 4 wins in the UFC and was given a title shot because he’s English and the UFC was trying their best to get that market. The second time he cleared it out was after Hendricks, there was no real contenders at that point, all the names you mentioned at that moment was irrelevant in the division.
Maia was on a 2 fight losing streak.
Wonderboy just beat Cote for his 4th win in the UFC, again that’s not worthy of a title shot.
Tyron Woodley lost to Rory McDonald and looked terrible in that fight.
These are the guys who looked elite at that time? And OP is mocking GSP’s prior opponents?
There was nothing left for him, besides, he made his mind up to leave the sport before the Hendricks fight so I don’t understand the running away argument either. No one remembers the whole lead up to that fight with the rumors it’d be GSP’s last? Hendricks didn’t retire him, he didn’t run away, and he probably thought a roided up cheating Hendricks who turned down WADA testing wasn’t worth his time when he had other things on his plate outside the sport. That’s the reason he left right? He was sick of the lack of testing. He tries to do something to prove the validity of the sport and his opponent turned it down because he was cheating… yeah… let’s make sure to give that guy his rematch.
GSP was right to leave when he did, and was right to return when he did. Despite how people try to discredit him in whatever way they can, he’s the only one out of the GOAT contenders to avenge all losses and finish on top while never getting popped for anything, all the while fighting every contender at the top of their game for near a decade. That’s smart, but it could only make sense here that being smart is somehow stupid, go figure.
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ThinkMMA -.Whambo - He was the most dominant fighter in the WW division for a period of 9 years, only losing twice, and avenging both losses. WW is the most stacked division in terms of talent pool, that's why when you look at the roster WW and LW have the majority of fighters. So really your argument is the most stacked division actually sucked for 9 years, as GSP was fighting all the most guys at their absolute best because most were title fights.In conclusion, I have determined you are a faggot.
This right here.