Hardy has one shot at winning this.....

 Anyway, thanks for playing.  Come back if you have something new. 

Archer0545 - 
WandyRammeditUpHim - 

 lol..     i have a question for you Archer..    now i HOPE you dont decide to DICKTUCK??



how did you come to the conclusion that it was "CLEAR" that Hardy has "at best 5% chance of winning"?



could you explain in detail how you came up with that?        ...why 5%?   (sounds quite scientific?  ..please enlighten us??)



oh & Archer resorts to his reasonable & mature style of diplomacy by accusing "captain woody" of being a "jackass" & a "cockgobbler"         ...lol     its no wonder that Archer is amongst the UGs most respected posters!!!(EPIC SARCASM!!!!!!)&nbsp;<br />
<br />
</blockquote><br />
&nbsp;I picked 5% arbitrarily to be honest.&nbsp; It is more than clear that Hardy is outmatched in all areas.&nbsp; He has a very slim chance at landing a big shot.&nbsp; If he stood toe to toe with hardy hardy would have a slightly higher chance but GSP will do what he does and will take Hardy down at will.&nbsp; He has no reason not to and he will take him down pound on him rinse and repeat.&nbsp; There are 5 rounds, if it goes that far, so I figure every round starts on the feet and Hardys gonna have about a 1% chance in the beginning of the round to throw his haymaker before he is on his back.&nbsp; GSP is a very smart fighter and is continually evolving.&nbsp; Hardy may get there someday but he is not there.&nbsp; He himself said that getting this shot was more a matter of luck and timing than having earned it.&nbsp; That came from his own mouth.&nbsp; I don't blame him for trying to make the most of it and if he does I wont be the least bit upset by it because I'm not a GSP fan particularly, I just think it's ridiculous how you guys think everyone is good simply because they are British.&nbsp; <br />
And I never dicktuk, not from anyone or anything.</blockquote>lol...&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp; oh!!&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp; so&nbsp;you admit that&nbsp;in reality it is NOT clear that Hardy has a 5% chance&nbsp;of getting lucky?<br />
<br />
sounds like a dicktuck to me?<br />
&nbsp;<br />
oh &amp; lol @ &quot;Hardy
s gonna have a 1% chance in the beginning of the round to throw his hayemaker before he is on his back"



again..   how do you come up with that conclusion??    ie "1%"

Archer0545 - 
WandyRammeditUpHim -  lol!!!!!!!!   



Will Archer EVER manage to outwit anyone??



the funny thing is that he really thought he had the "upper hand" this time...     only to have the rug swept from under his feet as usual!!



i`m actually starting to feel sorry for the guy!!



lol!!!
I responded to every point you made and this is your counter?  There is no point in me trying to have a battle of the wits with an unarmed man.

 


 HAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHA!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!





omg!!!!!!!          the backpeddaling is incredible!!!!!!!!!!





SOUND THE ALARM!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!





DICKTUCK IN PROGRESS!!   DICKTUCK IN PROGRESS!!   DICKTUCK IN PROGRES!!!  ETC!!!!





LOL @ YOU!!!!!!!!!!!





I RESPONDED TO EVERY "POINT" YOU MADE & OWNED YOUR BITCH ASS!!   AS PER USUAL..





LOL...      COME BACK WHEN YOU GROW SOME BALLS!!!!!!!!

 The percentages are tongue in cheek, it's called sarcasm.  It is not something that can actually be measured and therefore cannot have an actual number assigned to it.  Most people understand this concept but it is clearly something you cannot seem to wrap your head around. 

Let me make it a little simpler for you.  Hardy is probably not going to win. does that clear it up for you?

 I responded to the 4 points you brought up in detail.  You have not countered anything that i wrote or responded to one bit of it.  Is this what you do when you cant come up with an actual debate?  You just arbitrarily claim victory? 

Dicktucking is running away, welching, refusing to engage, ect...I have done none of those things, you have done them all. 

Let me get this straight, all I have to do is type in all caps and double space between every sentence and I win the debate?  Hmm, I hope Hardys strategy for victory is better than yours. LMAO 

Archer0545 -  The percentages are tongue in cheek, it's called sarcasm.  It is not something that can actually be measured and therefore cannot have an actual number assigned to it.  Most people understand this concept but it is clearly something you cannot seem to wrap your head around. 

Let me make it a little simpler for you.  Hardy is probably not going to win. does that clear it up for you?


 lmao!!!!!!!!!!!          more Epic backpeddleing!



this is GOLD Archer!!!    



thank you!!



to be honest..     i thought you were a pussy..   but not THIS much of a PUSSY?



you have exceeded even my expectations!!!

Archer0545 -  I responded to the 4 points you brought up in detail.  You have not countered anything that i wrote or responded to one bit of it.  Is this what you do when you cant come up with an actual debate?  You just arbitrarily claim victory? 

Dicktucking is running away, welching, refusing to engage, ect...I have done none of those things, you have done them all. 

Let me get this straight, all I have to do is type in all caps and double space between every sentence and I win the debate?  Hmm, I hope Hardys strategy for victory is better than yours. LMAO 


 ok..       ill humour you..<br />
<br />
please remind me of the &quot;points&quot; which i didn
t respond to?


WandyRammeditUpHim - 
Archer0545 -  The percentages are tongue in cheek, it's called sarcasm.  It is not something that can actually be measured and therefore cannot have an actual number assigned to it.  Most people understand this concept but it is clearly something you cannot seem to wrap your head around. 

Let me make it a little simpler for you.  Hardy is probably not going to win. does that clear it up for you?


 lmao!!!!!!!!!!!          more Epic backpeddleing!



this is GOLD Archer!!!    



thank you!!



to be honest..     i thought you were a pussy..   but not THIS much of a PUSSY?



you have exceeded even my expectations!!!
You  really are that stupid arent you?  All you can do is throw names around like it's gonna bother me or something.  Lol 

If you cant' respond to the points i made then just give up. 

 

Archer0545 - Rammsitupboysasses



the parts of GSP`s game where i believe Hardy is superior are 1, better punch resistence..  2,hits harder...3, mentally tougher..      & 4, better stand-up!!



Punch resistence?  Lol  Ok, GSP has been wobbled one time in his career, by a shot to the back of his head.  The back of the head is illegal for a reason numbnuts.  It throws off equillibrium.  (By the way it wasn't intentional on Serras part)  Serra followed up while he was wobbled from the back of the head shot and got GSP to tap, which is I suppose where your mentally tougher angle comes in.

Mental Toughness.  Yeah, GSP tapped to strikes and afterwards he went on a rampage tearing through TOP competiton left and right,  He has beaten a whos who of MMA since that incident.  I'd say his mental game is on par with anyone and I'd say it's above Hardys.  Hardy doesn't have faith in his skills which is obvious by his penchant for talking trash.  He doesnt feel he can win on his talent alone so he resorts to trash talk to desperately try and gain some edge.  Most Champions dont talk shit because they have faith in their skills...Fedor, Anderson, Randy, ect...   Those who can, do.  Those who cant, talk.

Hit's harder?  So, you have been hit by both men under identical circumstances and can say that one or the other hits harder?  Yeah, didn't think so....next

Better stand up?  You're basing this on the fact that Hardy really isn't any good at any of the other aspects of MMA (well roundedness)  and so the one thing he has is stand up.  He has KO's exactly two people in his career.  One, is some scrub no one ever heard of and the second was Rory Markham who was fighting with a collapsed lung.  Even if you give him full credit for it Markham is at best a middle of the pack fighter.  GSP has battered and beaten a whos who list of fighters.  He has revenged his two losses and beat them down.



Oh, and as for you calling it irony that I bumped the thread and talked about you tucking it was because I thought it was funny that you tried to give me shit in the first place about taking 2 hours to respond like I was sitting there just trying desperately to find the words to redeem myself.  Lol, yeah right.  And I know you were on the board on other threads but seemed to somehow miss this one.  So before you go congratulating yourself on your huge pwning you might want to rethink it and keep your mouth shut...as if you could.





 You brought up the points where you felt Hardy was better (see above)  I countered your points (see above)

It's called a debate, first you make a point, then I counter and you counter until one of us convinces the other, or we agree to disagree, or in your case TYPE IN ALL CAPS AND CLAIM VICTORY!!!!

Do you understand how a debate works yet?

 Lol at the health lessons from JKennedy!

Archer0545 - 
Archer0545 - Rammsitupboysasses



the parts of GSP`s game where i believe Hardy is superior are 1, better punch resistence..  2,hits harder...3, mentally tougher..      & 4, better stand-up!!



Punch resistence?  Lol  Ok, GSP has been wobbled one time in his career, by a shot to the back of his head.  The back of the head is illegal for a reason numbnuts.  It throws off equillibrium.  (By the way it wasn't intentional on Serras part)  Serra followed up while he was wobbled from the back of the head shot and got GSP to tap, which is I suppose where your mentally tougher angle comes in.

Mental Toughness.  Yeah, GSP tapped to strikes and afterwards he went on a rampage tearing through TOP competiton left and right,  He has beaten a whos who of MMA since that incident.  I'd say his mental game is on par with anyone and I'd say it's above Hardys.  Hardy doesn't have faith in his skills which is obvious by his penchant for talking trash.  He doesnt feel he can win on his talent alone so he resorts to trash talk to desperately try and gain some edge.  Most Champions dont talk shit because they have faith in their skills...Fedor, Anderson, Randy, ect...   Those who can, do.  Those who cant, talk.

Hit's harder?  So, you have been hit by both men under identical circumstances and can say that one or the other hits harder?  Yeah, didn't think so....next

Better stand up?  You're basing this on the fact that Hardy really isn't any good at any of the other aspects of MMA (well roundedness)  and so the one thing he has is stand up.  He has KO's exactly two people in his career.  One, is some scrub no one ever heard of and the second was Rory Markham who was fighting with a collapsed lung.  Even if you give him full credit for it Markham is at best a middle of the pack fighter.  GSP has battered and beaten a whos who list of fighters.  He has revenged his two losses and beat them down.



Oh, and as for you calling it irony that I bumped the thread and talked about you tucking it was because I thought it was funny that you tried to give me shit in the first place about taking 2 hours to respond like I was sitting there just trying desperately to find the words to redeem myself.  Lol, yeah right.  And I know you were on the board on other threads but seemed to somehow miss this one.  So before you go congratulating yourself on your huge pwning you might want to rethink it and keep your mouth shut...as if you could.





 You brought up the points where you felt Hardy was better (see above)  I countered your points (see above)

It's called a debate, first you make a point, then I counter and you counter until one of us convinces the other, or we agree to disagree, or in your case TYPE IN ALL CAPS AND CLAIM VICTORY!!!!

Do you understand how a debate works yet?
i know how  a debate works...  



1, you claim that GSP has only been "wobbled" once in his career whereas i seem to remember him getting wobbled by BJ PENN     ....whereas Hardy has Never been wobbled



2,mental toughness..   yeah GSP tapped to strikes..     i dont care what he did after this..   it STILL SHOWS MENTAL WEAKNESS!



3,Hardy talks trash for FUN...   (a bit like the UKTT)  if you believe it is simply  for the purpose of covering up a "lack of ability"  then i disagree!! (please give me evidence to support your theory)      Hardy outstruck Swick who most american fans & journalists picked to win..       so i was proved correct on that occasion

 

4,Hardy hits harder than GSP IMO..    no i havent been hit by either man but the fact is Hardy has stopped more people by strikes..      FACT!

Archer0545 - 
WandyRammeditUpHim - 
Archer0545 -  The percentages are tongue in cheek, it's called sarcasm.  It is not something that can actually be measured and therefore cannot have an actual number assigned to it.  Most people understand this concept but it is clearly something you cannot seem to wrap your head around. 

Let me make it a little simpler for you.  Hardy is probably not going to win. does that clear it up for you?


 lmao!!!!!!!!!!!          more Epic backpeddleing!



this is GOLD Archer!!!    



thank you!!



to be honest..     i thought you were a pussy..   but not THIS much of a PUSSY?



you have exceeded even my expectations!!!
You  really are that stupid arent you?  All you can do is throw names around like it's gonna bother me or something.  Lol 

If you cant' respond to the points i made then just give up. 

 
LOL!!!!!!!!    oh & STFU about "name-calling"



all youve done for months is dish out xenophobic insults..&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;<br />
<br />
sounds like&nbsp;Archer is getting a taste&nbsp;of his own medicine &amp; he doesn
t like it?



well dry your eyes bitch!!

 

Archer0545 -  Lol at the health lessons from JKennedy!
 

yeah..     hilarious!!!  (sarcasm)





i wish us Brits had an advanced sense of humour like you guys!!!

WandyRammeditUpHim - 
Archer0545 - 
WandyRammeditUpHim - 
Archer0545 - 
WandyRammeditUpHim - 
Archer0545 - 
tmr - 
KneeToFaceKo -  In before the "Britard Twins"...................



 +1


 lol....they know better, told them bitches to stay off my threads......and they're on the board. 
lol...     its a bit like when you tell all the girls to stay off your dick..        in other words they dont need much telling..               they know better..



..as if this thread wasnt a&nbsp;very obvious &amp;(typically unimaginitive)&nbsp;attempt at goading the very people&nbsp;who you &quot;told to stay off your threads&quot;<br />
<br />
..well&nbsp; congratulations..&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp; you managed to get at least one response from the Brits..&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp; although this was more of&nbsp;a sympathy vote more than&nbsp;anything else..<br />
&nbsp;<br />
its a pity you don
t have the intellect to come up with anything worthy of debate..



just another sad hater with nothing but childish insults..

lol....what would you like to debate....how Hardy has anything more than a slim chance to land a bomb?  How he's outclassed in all areas of MMA?  Maybe how GSP has a higher finishing perventage than Hardy?

Maybe How GSP has finished Top Quality opposition while Hady has decisioned middle of the packers and how his only KO in the UFC was against  what was that guys name again?  Or maybe how GSP needs to "prove" something to Hardy by Standing toe to toe with Hardy so he might have a chance to land something?  

We can debate any of these topics you like but I don't like your chances at winning any better than I like Hardys.....but, hey, feel free!  i love a good game of Squash!

 
lol...       that was quick!!   it only took you 2hrs to come up with that response!!      ...i bet that little hamster on the wheel inside your head was working overtime?



firstly finishing percentages are FACT therefore not up for debate..



also id say it was&nbsp;pretty much&nbsp;FACT that GSP has faced better opposition..<br />
<br />
other than that you brought up points that have been done to&nbsp;death &amp; you even have the&nbsp;nerve to steal EB
s arguement that GSP needs to prove himself by standing with Hardy..



in other words you still havent come up with anything original&nbsp;<br />
<br />
keep trying..<br />
<br />
lol<br />
&nbsp;</blockquote><br />
&nbsp;Lol @ your nimwitted ass thinking I sit on this forum 24 hours a day waiting to respond to your drivel.<br />
It was my point to bring up things that have been done to death because you guys have already been picked apart mercilessly on all of those topics.&nbsp; There was a Question of what would you like to debate?&nbsp; I see you weren't smart enough to come up with an actual angle of debate on your own.&nbsp; Of course thats not really a surprise, all you manage to to is to follow behind Ace and Gary telling them how their owning people left and right when their getting verbally beaten left and right.&nbsp; At least they come up with something original now and then even if they are consistently wrong.&nbsp; All you do is follow their lead and beg for scraps.<br />
As for the Hardy GSP question...what part of GSPs game do you really believe Hardy is better at?&nbsp; I mean, so far he seems good at running his mouth, squeaking out decisions and dying his Mohawk red.&nbsp; Other than that I think that GSP has him by the short and curlys in every facet of the game.&nbsp; <br />
I'm really not a big fan of GSP,&nbsp; but it is clear that at best he has a 5% chance of getting lucky.</blockquote><br />
&nbsp;LOL!!!!!!&nbsp;&nbsp; @ this ABORTION of a thread!!!!<br />
<br />
i have to hand it to you Archer..&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp; if &quot;self-ownage&quot; was an art form then you are LEONARDO DA VINCI!!!<br />
<br />
this thread actually turned out to be EXTREMELY funny on&nbsp;&nbsp;so many&nbsp;levels!!<br />
<br />
firstly..&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp; you arrogantly laugh at my &quot;nimwitted ass&quot; (nimwitted!!???) &nbsp;for &quot;thinking that (you) sit on this forum 24 hours a day waiting for (me) to respond&quot;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;<br />
<br />
THEN..&nbsp;&nbsp; you proceed to..&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp; spend the next 24 hrs bumping your thread WAITING for MY RESPONSE!!!<br />
<br />
lol...&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp; i dont know if you
re a fan of IRONY?      ...BUT  "thats some HIGH level shit!  ..right there!!



its actually pretty tragic imo!!      ..the sad thing is that Archer really thought that this was his "moment of glory!"       ....he made what he THOUGHT was a clever come-back for the first time in his LIFE & he started to get cocky!!



sorry to dissappoint you Archer but i have been working for the last couple of days!!     ....im sorry to rain on your parade but if you actually believe that you are capable of making ME "dick-tuck"?   ..then as usual you are SORELY mistaken!!



..just to answer your "incredibly difficult" questions that "forced" me to "dick-tuck"..(lmao):



the parts of GSP`s game where i believe Hardy is superior are 1, better punch resistence..  2,hits harder...3, mentally tougher..      & 4, better stand-up!!



these are all  important aspects of the game imo..



oh & if you want me to suggest an original angle of debate of my own then:



"when is Archer going to say something intelligent???"



ok..     i admit..        thats not really an original question..         ah well!!





 


 

 "i know how  a debate works...  



1, you claim that GSP has only been "wobbled" once in his career whereas i seem to remember him getting wobbled by BJ PENN     ....whereas Hardy has Never been wobbled



2,mental toughness..   yeah GSP tapped to strikes..     i dont care what he did after this..   it STILL SHOWS MENTAL WEAKNESS!



3,Hardy talks trash for FUN...   (a bit like the UKTT)  if you believe it is simply  for the purpose of covering up a "lack of ability"  then i disagree!! (please give me evidence to support your theory)      Hardy outstruck Swick who most american fans & journalists picked to win..       so i was proved correct on that occasion

 

4,Hardy hits harder than GSP IMO..    no i havent been hit by either man but the fact is Hardy has stopped more people by strikes..      FACT! "



1. In the first fight with BJ, he got lit up, got his nose broke, and was definitely outstruck.  Wobbled, no.

2. I agree that it showed mental weakness, Hardy has tapped out 6 times GSP has tapped twice, once to an armbar, once to strikes.  Hardy has tapped to 6 different submissions, should I call him mentally weak for not gutting it out or going to sleep?

3. I stand by my comments on trash talk.  As for evidence, it is common knowledge that many people try to bully people but then back down when you call their bluff.  Im saying that in general if you feel like you have to get in someones head then you are admitting you don't believe you can win soley on skill alone. Hardy won against Swick, I agree.  I'd actually like to see a rematch with them sometime down the road, i hate split decisions.

4.  Hardy has stopped more people by strikes, you are correct.  Hardy has more fights than GSP as well.

GSP has stopped several top 10 wws.  Hardy has stopped a bunch of guys with losing records in smaller shows and one medocre fighter with a collapsed lung. 



I prefer a debate to the flame war but I'll accomodate you if that's your preference.  And as far as name calling and insults go on this board I never insult anyone until they have insulted me first.



Off to work, in case I get accused of dicktucking.  Cheers.

Archer0545 - Yep, Hardy's striking looks light years ahead of GSP!!!! Smack that bitch up!

 




Complete imbecile or troll which one are you?


ummmm I'm gonna go with both.

Its MMA, Hardy's tough, anything can happen, but GSP has been training with Mousasi as of late. GSP takes it

Frank Shamrock's key to victory: a punch

Hardy is essentially correct.

Plus

Archer0545 - 
WandyRammeditUpHim - 
Archer0545 - 
WandyRammeditUpHim - 
Archer0545 - 
tmr - 
KneeToFaceKo -  In before the "Britard Twins"...................

 +1

 lol....they know better, told them bitches to stay off my threads......and they're on the board. 
lol...     its a bit like when you tell all the girls to stay off your dick..        in other words they dont need much telling..               they know better..

..as if this thread wasnt a very obvious &(typically unimaginitive) attempt at goading the very people who you "told to stay off your threads"<br /><br />..well  congratulations..    you managed to get at least one response from the Brits..      although this was more of a sympathy vote more than anything else..<br /> <br />its a pity you dont have the intellect to come up with anything worthy of debate..

just another sad hater with nothing but childish insults..
lol....what would you like to debate....how Hardy has anything more than a slim chance to land a bomb?  How he's outclassed in all areas of MMA?  Maybe how GSP has a higher finishing perventage than Hardy?
Maybe How GSP has finished Top Quality opposition while Hady has decisioned middle of the packers and how his only KO in the UFC was against  what was that guys name again?  Or maybe how GSP needs to "prove" something to Hardy by Standing toe to toe with Hardy so he might have a chance to land something?  
We can debate any of these topics you like but I don't like your chances at winning any better than I like Hardys.....but, hey, feel free!  i love a good game of Squash!
 
lol...       that was quick!!   it only took you 2hrs to come up with that response!!      ...i bet that little hamster on the wheel inside your head was working overtime?

firstly finishing percentages are FACT therefore not up for debate..

also id say it was pretty much FACT that GSP has faced better opposition..<br /><br />other than that you brought up points that have been done to death & you even have the nerve to steal EBs arguement that GSP needs to prove himself by standing with Hardy..

in other words you still haven`t come up with anything original 

keep trying..

lol
 

 Lol @ your nimwitted ass thinking I sit on this forum 24 hours a day waiting to respond to your drivel.
It was my point to bring up things that have been done to death because you guys have already been picked apart mercilessly on all of those topics.  There was a Question of what would you like to debate?  I see you weren't smart enough to come up with an actual angle of debate on your own.  Of course thats not really a surprise, all you manage to to is to follow behind Ace and Gary telling them how their owning people left and right when their getting verbally beaten left and right.  At least they come up with something original now and then even if they are consistently wrong.  All you do is follow their lead and beg for scraps.
As for the Hardy GSP question...what part of GSPs game do you really believe Hardy is better at?  I mean, so far he seems good at running his mouth, squeaking out decisions and dying his Mohawk red.  Other than that I think that GSP has him by the short and curlys in every facet of the game. 
I'm really not a big fan of GSP,  but it is clear that at best he has a 5% chance of getting lucky.


http://i48.tinypic.com/w0l7h1.jpg (bluenamer please)

CaptainWoody - 
Archer0545 - Yep, Hardy's striking looks light years ahead of GSP!!!! Smack that bitch up!



 









Complete Genius or supermodel which one are you?





ummmm I'm gonna go with both.


 Thanks Woody!