Poor holly
They act like she isnt even the champion.
fuck you ufc, making her sit out so your plans work out accordingly.
Fuck this ufc 200 rematch, give the champ what she wants 
mongo54 -Seems like you're confusing "fighter" with some business person.springfield -mongo54 -BRZ -springfield -How would that help Holly though? The UFC would just set up an intern belt. When Miesha threaten to retire Dana told her maybe she should.mongo54 -springfield - Agree with Holly and Tardiolli. Dana is only thinking of the UFC. She has the power to get what she wants though by threatening to retire. She shouldn't have to do that though.
You think she should retire instead of collect the biggest payday of her career? She shouldn't risk the financial loss.
I didn't say that. I said threaten to retire not retire.
All she would have to do is publicly state I'm retiring if the UFC doesn't let me fight before July and state her reasons why. The UFC would fold.
Boom, Miesha tells Dana he better change things or she will retire......Dana tells her go ahead. Funny we haven't heard from her since. In her defense she may be busy with Mr. Tate hiding under her tit though.
Holly is the undisputed champion who destroyed the former champion. Miesha has little leverage and Holly has all the leverage in the world. Holly's not going to give the UFC ultimatum but if she did she would win.
Then she should give it a shot. Let's be clear though, I think she should do what she wants, I just think it's a mistake to fight before the rematch. I am always on the fighters side.
Holly is a fighter, she wants to fight and test herself. If you're on her side, you will hope she can fight as soon as possible.
She's a lifelong champ and the need to test herself is much stronger than any payday.
A greedy promoter? You don't say. There comes a point where greed isn't good.
Spinning Shit -Holly trains at a real gym.Carogan - You guys have no clue.She has one chance to get the Ronda rematch right. She'd be stupid to do anything other than maximize her earnings for it.
What Holly is doing right now is negotiating for the biggest payday she can get in a rematch with Ronda. She's not stupid - there is absolutely no way on earth that she is going to risk losing in a fight before a Ronday rematch.
The pay day for the 2nd fight will likely be more than all of her future fights combined.
What's good for the UFC is also good for Holly. They are looking to maximize their income just as much as she is. But Holly needs to use leverage to give the UFC reasons to pay her more - the threat of taking an earlier fight is certainly one way of doing it, just as well as threatening to turn down a Ronda fight/retiring is another way.
I don't buy her coaches bs about downplaying her abilities in the fights leading up to Ronda. I don't think that Holly is that much better than Cat or Miesha, I think that she just happens to be incredibly strong in the exact same spots where Ronda is really weak. So I'm not sure that Ronda can ever beat her, but I think that both Cat and Miesha have legit shots.
The last thing Holly wants is to gamble witg a payday of this magnitude.
Ronda is also a better striker than miesha and cat are, by a long margin.
But Ronda is "exhausted"
She needs some time says Dana.
Flashback:
"Did he say he wants to retire? He didn't say 'I'm going to retire. I'm going to hang it up. It's been great everybody. Thanks a lot for all the years. See you later. He said 'I'm going to take some time off.'
"No...You don't just say 'I'll take some time off, maybe I'll be back, maybe I won't.' You owe it to the fans, you owe it to that belt, you owe it to this company and you owe it to Johny Hendricks to give him that opportunity to fight again.
"There's no 'I'm going to go on a cruise. I'm going to be gone for two years. I'm going to take a hiatus. I'm going to take a leave of absence,'" White continued, building to a crescendo of impotent rage. "Whatever the hell it was that he was saying. That's not how it works. It doesn't work that way.'"
shaqitup -No she isn’t. Neither Cat nor Miesha close distance in a straight line with their head still and hands down. Ronda has done that her entire career.Spinning Shit -Holly trains at a real gym.Carogan - You guys have no clue.She has one chance to get the Ronda rematch right. She'd be stupid to do anything other than maximize her earnings for it.
What Holly is doing right now is negotiating for the biggest payday she can get in a rematch with Ronda. She's not stupid - there is absolutely no way on earth that she is going to risk losing in a fight before a Ronday rematch.
The pay day for the 2nd fight will likely be more than all of her future fights combined.
What's good for the UFC is also good for Holly. They are looking to maximize their income just as much as she is. But Holly needs to use leverage to give the UFC reasons to pay her more - the threat of taking an earlier fight is certainly one way of doing it, just as well as threatening to turn down a Ronda fight/retiring is another way.
I don't buy her coaches bs about downplaying her abilities in the fights leading up to Ronda. I don't think that Holly is that much better than Cat or Miesha, I think that she just happens to be incredibly strong in the exact same spots where Ronda is really weak. So I'm not sure that Ronda can ever beat her, but I think that both Cat and Miesha have legit shots.
The last thing Holly wants is to gamble witg a payday of this magnitude.
Ronda is also a better striker than miesha and cat are, by a long margin.
ILoveWatchingJonesBoneShogun - If she fights and loses, she will 2nd guess that request for the rest of her life.......but it should be her decision to make.
Let's not forget, she just beat a barely 500 fighter by split decision earlier in the year
DalyDentedDecimated'sDome -springfield - Agree with Holly and Tardiolli. Dana is only thinking of the UFC. She has the power to get what she wants though by threatening to retire. She shouldn't have to do that though.
fuck dana white always trying to distort the market by centering everything around ronda. She's done. She's done! yeah it's a organization run by white trash but they need to not try to script every ending.
Yeah Ronda is like Artie Lang and therefore marketable - unmarried, hang with low people, profane, overweight, overeater, motormouth trash talker, psychologically unstable, and brings in shallow minded fans.
Holly is great. let her reign and have all the perks ronda did - like fighting as often as she wants.
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time traveling 12er - I wouldn't mind Holm Zingano. I think Zingano had a legit shot at Rousey and just got stupid. There are questions similar to McGregor Aldo, because it ended so quick. I think it's a good matchup because either winning sets up a good fight for Rousey regardless of how it starts out.
That's the fight I would love to see. Style wise it should be a war.
BuddyRevell -Guaranteed it would mean interim belt as Rondas first fight back. Or possibly they'd just give her an interim belt without a fight. Hell, that's how she "won" the title in the first place
Holly should get pregnant as a big FUCK YOU for trying to make her wait for poor Ronda to recover. Then the UFC will have to wait on her to come back when she's ready.
Samoa -ILoveWatchingJonesBoneShogun - If she fights and loses, she will 2nd guess that request for the rest of her life.......but it should be her decision to make.
Let's not forget, she just beat a barely 500 fighter by split decision earlier in the year
Samoa,
Vote up for the truth Sir!
If only the UFC had a matchmaker or Some CEOs who could make these decisions, anyone but Dana.
TBH all the power is in her hands. She can force the UFC to set up a fight. SHE is the champ, she shouldn't have to wait around.
Holly isn't as marketable as Ronda. There are a bunch of UFC champs that don't get much if any push by the company.
HW- Werdum. He gets pushed in Brazil but almost nothing in the states.
LHW- Cormier. He is holding Jones belt and people know it. He doesn't promoted nearly enough.
MW- Before Weidman lost. The only thing he was known as was the guy who dethroned Anderson. So they were still using Andersons power to push Weidman. For an All American, he didn't get half of what Anderson got.
WW- Robbie, doesn't command a fraction of what GSP did.
LW- Pettis was on a cereal box, but what has RDA got? Cowboy gets pushed harder as the contender than the champ does.
FW- Aldo was P4P king and they talked bad about him. He talked about the disrespect and rightfully so. Connor is everywhere and as long as he wins, he will stay that way.
BW- Cruz didn't get much, Barao doesn't get any and TJ gets enough from the Faber feud.
FBW- Ronda was the poster child, she lost and now the attention will be pushed to Connor. Holly and Weidman are in the same boat. They are/were great champs but don't have that special something. Ronda is polarizing, people love her or hate her but they all talk about her, just like they do with Connor.
125- MM gets nothing. There is no star there.
115- JJ gets a little but Paige was being groomed. Her star power has declined since that dominating loss, she will be harder to push.
Being champion should be enough to get you attention. It should be promoted by the company and pushed to the masses in every format available but that isnt the case. There are a few cases where the full machine has been put into motion but if you don't have "that quality" you are just a footnote. GSP, BJ, Chuck, Jones, Ronda, Connor are just a few who have been lifted to an exalted status. Weidman was the champ and the promotion for his fight with Rockhold was a footnote of the Aldo v Connor fight. RDA is the champ and fighting on a FS1 card.
Sunkist1207 -Back at ya!Samoa -ILoveWatchingJonesBoneShogun - If she fights and loses, she will 2nd guess that request for the rest of her life.......but it should be her decision to make.
Let's not forget, she just beat a barely 500 fighter by split decision earlier in the year
Samoa,
Vote up for the truth Sir!
It's bullshit. When was the last time a champion had to sit out, to wait for the contender?
And Holly won that Pennington fight 3-0 or 2-1 at the absolute worst. I would never trust somebody to score a fight, if they had Holly losing that fight. Not to mention, it was her first ufc fight.
BuddyRevell -Good point. The ufc would look horrible if they stripped her of her title for maternity leave
Holly should get pregnant as a big FUCK YOU for trying to make her wait for poor Ronda to recover. Then the UFC will have to wait on her to come back when she's ready.
springfield - Agree with Holly and Tardiolli. Dana is only thinking of the UFC. She has the power to get what she wants though by threatening to retire. She shouldn't have to do that though.
Does she really have that type of star appeal already? Too soon yet.
judonoob -Katsumoto - Dana's just acting like an asshole trying to sabotage Holly's career for Rousy.I disagree. I don't think Ronda will be ready by July and will get smoked again. Between the the facial damage she took, the movie obligations, the media obligations that egg will surely dump all over her, plus getting herself back into the shape she was in 2 years ago, I don't see how she gets ready.
He should let Holly defend the belt once. She is healthy and so is Miesha.
They don't need Ronda on the 200 card, there are plenty of intriguing matchups that will sell that card.
Won't be ready? She was overconfident, took a huge shot early and the rest was history. Do you think she'll make the same mistake? Holm should have been just another speed bump had RR stayed away from the boxing and played her game. Not rocket science! Doesn't matter when the fight is, RR will submit her as per usual. No debate here.