His web site is straight outta 2004.
http://www.lloydirvin.com/adult/bjj/index.html
Just wondering if the millionaire marketing master still filling those classes. Maybe mobile friendly sites are over rated.
They rape and pillage the competition
They're making a lot of money.
Fern 10th Planet -They rape and pillage the competition
...and their students.
His competition team is still doing great. He just doesn't promote it like he used to. One of his guys won the Mundials at black belt last year. Not many American coaches can say they've produced a black belt world champion in the gi. And Jamil-Hill came up as a juvenile through TLI, so you can't even say he was poached from somewhere else.
However, none of this makes up for all the awfulness of LI himself.
Fern 10th Planet -They rape and pillage the competition
Careful now, last 10pjj guy that went that route got mushed by Tim Spriggs.
Toilet Steak™ -Fern 10th Planet -They rape and pillage the competition
Careful now, last 10pjj guy that went that route got mushed by Tim Spriggs.
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They seem to be doing well
First American Coach to produce a Black Belt World Champion(he produced 2). There was alot of chatter a few yers ago that he was finished because alot of his competitors left. The thing is, his homegrown competitors improved and the competitors that left didn’t have as much success after they left. IMO Lloyd Irvin is the greatest American BJJ coach in history.
SpiderManBJJ - First American Coach to produce a Black Belt World Champion(he produced 2). There was alot of chatter a few yers ago that he was finished because alot of his competitors left. The thing is, his homegrown competitors improved and the competitors that left didn't have as much success after they left. IMO Lloyd Irvin is the greatest American BJJ coach in history.
Pretty spot on. People can say whatever they want about a case back in the 80s (that he was found not guilty of btw), that dude is arguably the best american coach we've seen, and possibly will ever see.
Toilet Steak™ -SpiderManBJJ - First American Coach to produce a Black Belt World Champion(he produced 2). There was alot of chatter a few yers ago that he was finished because alot of his competitors left. The thing is, his homegrown competitors improved and the competitors that left didn't have as much success after they left. IMO Lloyd Irvin is the greatest American BJJ coach in history.Pretty spot on. People can say whatever they want about a case back in the 80s (that he was found not guilty of btw), that dude is arguably the best american coach we've seen, and possibly will ever see.
Case back in the 80s(thought it was 90 but whatever), sexual coercion of female students, pedo students driving kids on the team bus, students gang raping other students, oh, and introducing cringey marketing and the mcdojo business model to BJJ.
Best Coach Eva!!
And the only reason he was found not guilty was because he said he couldn't get hard, but admitted to wanting to participate in a mother fucking gang rape.
Muffinho -And the only reason he was found not guilty was because he said he couldn't get hard, but admitted to wanting to participate in a mother fucking gang rape.
Well in his defense, if he really wanted to participate I don't think he'd have been llimp. He probably premature ejaculated and went with the limp log defense to save some embarrassment
Muffinho -And the only reason he was found not guilty was because he said he couldn't get hard, but admitted to wanting to participate in a mother fucking gang rape.
Would you mind sharing your source on that? To be fair, at that time there were only 2 articles that covered the story. To add to that, both of those articles were written by the same author, and were very contradictory (one article said he didnt do it, and another said he was there).
Not trying to be insensitive to the subject, but if we're going to bring that case up (ESPECIALLY in todays climate), it's only fair to cast judgement once we have the facts in front of us, not beforehand.
As for his business practices, I wont tell a man how to earn, but whatever he's teaching in there is working out pretty well for him.
Toilet Steak™ -Muffinho -And the only reason he was found not guilty was because he said he couldn't get hard, but admitted to wanting to participate in a mother fucking gang rape.
Would you mind sharing your source on that? To be fair, at that time there were only 2 articles that covered the story. To add to that, both of those articles were written by the same author, and were very contradictory (one article said he didnt do it, and another said he was there).
Not trying to be insensitive to the subject, but if we're going to bring that case up (ESPECIALLY in todays climate), it's only fair to cast judgement once we have the facts in front of us, not beforehand.
As for his business practices, I wont tell a man how to earn, but whatever he's teaching in there is working out pretty well for him.
Its 2019. If you want a source, you can google it.
Imagine thinking people on the internet have saved citations so they can prove to people that LI is a bad human. Donkey.
Muffinho -Toilet Steak™ -Muffinho -And the only reason he was found not guilty was because he said he couldn't get hard, but admitted to wanting to participate in a mother fucking gang rape.
Would you mind sharing your source on that? To be fair, at that time there were only 2 articles that covered the story. To add to that, both of those articles were written by the same author, and were very contradictory (one article said he didnt do it, and another said he was there).
Not trying to be insensitive to the subject, but if we're going to bring that case up (ESPECIALLY in todays climate), it's only fair to cast judgement once we have the facts in front of us, not beforehand.
As for his business practices, I wont tell a man how to earn, but whatever he's teaching in there is working out pretty well for him.
Its 2019. If you want a source, you can google it.
Imagine thinking people on the internet have saved citations so they can prove to people that LI is a bad human. Donkey.
You dont have to be a dick when someone asks for a source dude, relax.
Toilet Steak™ -Muffinho -Toilet Steak™ -Muffinho -And the only reason he was found not guilty was because he said he couldn't get hard, but admitted to wanting to participate in a mother fucking gang rape.
Would you mind sharing your source on that? To be fair, at that time there were only 2 articles that covered the story. To add to that, both of those articles were written by the same author, and were very contradictory (one article said he didnt do it, and another said he was there).
Not trying to be insensitive to the subject, but if we're going to bring that case up (ESPECIALLY in todays climate), it's only fair to cast judgement once we have the facts in front of us, not beforehand.
As for his business practices, I wont tell a man how to earn, but whatever he's teaching in there is working out pretty well for him.
Its 2019. If you want a source, you can google it.
Imagine thinking people on the internet have saved citations so they can prove to people that LI is a bad human. Donkey.
You dont have to be a dick when someone asks for a source dude, relax.
Or you could just look up the case and read court notes on it. That isnt biased its court transcripts. But good on you trying to deflect.
SpiderManBJJ - First American Coach to produce a Black Belt World Champion(he produced 2). There was alot of chatter a few yers ago that he was finished because alot of his competitors left. The thing is, his homegrown competitors improved and the competitors that left didn't have as much success after they left. IMO Lloyd Irvin is the greatest American BJJ coach in history.
So keenan didnt have success? Ryan Hall? Jordan?
Nope those guys suck right?
Muffinho -And the only reason he was found not guilty was because he said he couldn't get hard, but admitted to wanting to participate in a mother fucking gang rape.
Not true. Do you think you get to try to participate in a gang rape and just get off if you don't actually finish the act? That story doesn't seem a bit odd to you?
Silhouette -Toilet Steak™ -Muffinho -Toilet Steak™ -Muffinho -And the only reason he was found not guilty was because he said he couldn't get hard, but admitted to wanting to participate in a mother fucking gang rape.
Would you mind sharing your source on that? To be fair, at that time there were only 2 articles that covered the story. To add to that, both of those articles were written by the same author, and were very contradictory (one article said he didnt do it, and another said he was there).
Not trying to be insensitive to the subject, but if we're going to bring that case up (ESPECIALLY in todays climate), it's only fair to cast judgement once we have the facts in front of us, not beforehand.
As for his business practices, I wont tell a man how to earn, but whatever he's teaching in there is working out pretty well for him.
Its 2019. If you want a source, you can google it.
Imagine thinking people on the internet have saved citations so they can prove to people that LI is a bad human. Donkey.
You dont have to be a dick when someone asks for a source dude, relax.
Or you could just look up the case and read court notes on it. That isnt biased its court transcripts. But good on you trying to deflect.
It's not the easiest thing to find info on if you don't have much free time. I became curious about it awhile back. The story being passed around on the internet always seemed a bit odd and then I heard Irvin's interview about it, and it made a bit more sense. I tried looking around for info and never fully got to the bottom of it, but I did find enough info to make me think Irvin's account was closer to the truth than the typical story you hear on forums.